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How much downforce you were running, and what about DRS? I only hit 8th in DRS zones but there are two at Red Bull Ring.
I wont be doing any more running today so I've just uploaded that lap, It's quite messy and the car is clearly struggling on the track with this setup, so for sure there is quite some time to be gained just from setting the car up to better deal with the circuit so you can actually attack as a driver.
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7 on both front, 12 on the rear. Then increased tyre pressure to 19 because if I recall correctly it was the minimum that Pirelli indicated for this year (2016) and running on SuperSoft. Also changed a few the springs, height and camber.
Top speed I achieved was 312 km/h in 7th with 2 white dots lightened.
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I had 12 on front, 15 on rear and my top speed was 196mph (315khh), only thing I can imagine is you're not using DRS early enough or not shifting up fast enough or not in hotlap mode? I don't really understand the ERS system so I won't claim to even have a clue what the best setting is.
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DRS using with a maximum gap of half a second. Shifting up it might be that the problem, maybe I had to shift up faster, but I don't think it was the main reason of 3 seconds gap. MGU-K on Hotlap mode, MGU-H in Motor mode.
Here I repost my video, in the first part there is cockpit view, in the description there are all setup changes and the other sub-settings (track, aids, etc).
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1. You're shifting up too late for sure, as soon as it goes white shift. If you use the "Gears" app it shows quite clearly with a blue line the turbo boost, so you can get a feel for exactly when to shift based on that. I use the dashcam view normally so I don't even see the steering wheel.
2. At 20s in you shift down to 1st gear when 2nd would be better, also you're using the kerb but due to the bumpy/camber nature of the track it's actually slower to do that and usually faster to go wide around it, case in point you had to do a lot of correction before you could get back on the throttle. I did the same as you on my lap too but that was a mistake that I got away with in 2nd gear, usually I avoid clipping the kerb apex though..
Otherwise you're quite tentative on the throttle and missing apex's. The default setup is not great at all so it's not confidence inspiring. Dont forget I'm not 3 seconds ahead of you, I only did a 1:11.5 and pretty much all of that was in my shifting and the tight corner at 20s ish.
I'm confident I could shave half a second off my time with better driving, but beyond that I'm gonna want a better setup, since you're just fighting the car.
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Aris posted the 2015 Ferrari guide. Wow that's complicated!
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...rrari-sf15-t-power-unit-driving-advice.34454/
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...rrari-sf15-t-power-unit-driving-advice.34454/
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Ok tnx. You were still 1 second faster anyway, using Medium tyres (as you said earlier). I used SuperSoft and low fuel.
About the 1st gear instead of 2nd, was related to the fact that 1st gear was much easier the control, probably because torque and power were already wearing off in that RPM range. Too many laps wasted by spinning there, so when I discovered 1st was more stable, I used it.
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There we go - http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...rrari-sf15-t-power-unit-driving-advice.34454/
Thread just posted by the devs confirming my findings with shifting earlier in the SF15.
Thread just posted by the devs confirming my findings with shifting earlier in the SF15.
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Poll added.
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Talks are ongoing with Jordan.
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I'm torn between the GranTurismo GT4 and the 250F 12C. The GT4 has an awesome sound, and is a pretty fun car to drive when you get it right. It's grippy, but you can still get it to slide. On the other side, the 250F has a great sound, and is really really fun to drive. Sliding ever so slightly around low speed corners is so much fun. I can't pick! 
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You have to try them all though. I was even surprised that the Levante was enjoyable. 488 was great too. Still a couple of cars to try this evening 
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Getting back on this topic, it might be the case that slightly higher downforce is faster, I just did a lap with default everything aside from rear wing 1 click less, using soft tyres (they overheat fast but seem faster over 1 lap). I did a 1:10.108 and surprisingly didn't lose a great deal of straight line speed but gained some much wanted stability and cornering.
Unusual though as I expected to run low downforce at this track.
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For what it's worth, a hotfix is coming to adjust the power deliver and gear ratios on the SF-15. Might want to wait until after that to do any more testing.
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Interesting, it was at the point where optimum gear shift was around 10500-10700 RPM, and of course the ERS system doesn't by default deliver its power at the most optimum points but rather generically across a lap. Biggest thing that caught me off guard at Red Bull Ring was how the SF15 was faster with a medium ish downforce setup of default or slightly higher rather than the low downforce I went for initially.
I've managed to learn how to drive it now and the default setup is not too bad at higher downforce, though not spectacular by any means. The car is so easy to crash tho it's unbelievable, we don't give those F1 drivers enough credit if it's truly as sensitive as this.
My best lap to date, default setup on soft tyres but 1 click more downforce on front, 1 click less on back, in Hotlap mode. I give up from here though, the car is so sensitive I bin the car at the end of the lap on so many tries, I think I need a more noob friendly setup or something, at least I can do a consistent 1:10.1 but the fastest guy on RSR is 1:09.00 flat, if he did that on default setup then he's a monster.
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I've heard about the cease and desist. But it's still up on RD and most websites so I'm not sure it has any effect. Just Ferrari being annoying as usual.
Yup, I got that car too. Not as good to drive as the Ferrari and Lotus in my opinion, but still a pretty good mod.
Mother of god...I thought F-Extreme in Automobilista is good, but this is just on another level. I am surprised Ferrari even let them model their system to such a degree of detail, considering how secretive F1 teams can be about their engine mappings. No wonder drivers these days needs constant coaching from the pitwall.
Kunos FTW
Who says AC doesn't have simulation value now huh? 
EDIT: Just printed off the 10 page pdf for testing later
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@Bigbazz Consider that what they now consider "low downforce configuration" is the medium one of the old days, now that they can use DRS to reduce drag and downforce itself is so important, more than pure mechanical grip.
In fact, just take a look at last year wings on Monza, they looked like Melbourne wings from 2004. So I might assume that a "medium-to-low" downforce track like Red Bull Ring would be like the Hungarian wings from same year, so not properly so "low" like we intend. Probably the configuration we were trying (7 front, 12 rear in my case) is for Monza (minimum downforce) and not for Red Bull Ring (med-to-low).
In fact, just take a look at last year wings on Monza, they looked like Melbourne wings from 2004. So I might assume that a "medium-to-low" downforce track like Red Bull Ring would be like the Hungarian wings from same year, so not properly so "low" like we intend. Probably the configuration we were trying (7 front, 12 rear in my case) is for Monza (minimum downforce) and not for Red Bull Ring (med-to-low).
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Porsche 935...
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Whats this about smart people having fun and losers complain? Silly quote takes away a bit of the shine on that beautiful Porsche pic.
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*gasp* Finally! I get to drive the 935!
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As usual, a certain website (and some people) complains about the latest DLC where you can't race the Ferrari F1s against other cars. It's just stupid when it's the same case with the Ferrari F1s in GT5. It's the FIA being their usual pain-in-the-behind, not Kunos/Ferrari's fault. Some people really need to chill.
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I dont mind if i cannot race the F1 Ferrari against other cars... Give me enough skins and i will race a one make series on all the amazing tracks AC has...
Like the people that complained about the modding sections closed on the official forum...
i am totally with Massarutto here...
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