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That's a beautiful Exige, not the terribly ugly and awkward Evora. But most likely it will be out with the initial full release.
Assetto Corsa | News and General Discussion
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To be honest iRacing on Steam makes no sense to me, especially considering it's a subscription based service (which I'm on). Something like AC makes much more sense on Steam, and as much as I love iRacing, some of their business practices are questionable and as great as it is and as much as they try to cover it, they're there to make a quick buck. Maybe my tin foil hat is malfunctioning I don't know, but all of this makes me suspicious. I'm all up for as much sims as possible, but I'm not a fan of iRacing on Steam.
Quoting Tony Gardner, president of iRacing from the iRacing forums
Has anyone been able to run the tech preview on XP?
Quoting Tony Gardner, president of iRacing from the iRacing forums
Tony Gardner
Has anyone been able to run the tech preview on XP?
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Assetto Corsa won't be supported on XP.
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Reading this about iRacing, this saying comes to mind (if it is correct, I'm not sure):Wow, Evora in the TP update, nice.
Here's the shot he linked to:
btw, check out this load of BS:
https://twitter.com/Aristotelis/status/306413938327818241
Ever since iRacing joined Steam Greenlight, Assetto Corsa's "No" count went up by 50%. Why are people scared of AC?! It's a small group! Pisses me off
Hoist with your own petard
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If you are trying to plot a scheme against someone, it just might backfire.
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I did, but for the legitimate reason that I wouldn't buy in to the subscription fee thing. It's a fact, if iRacing made it onto Steam I would not buy it.
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Fanboys will be fanboys, they don't have to be pre-teens to have favourites and hate everything else to the death.
Thinking about it, though, 50% only sounds terrible, without knowing how many no votes they had before it doesn't mean a whole lot. Maybe that 50% is one vote, maybe it's 100,000, we don't know. Do we? I couldn't see any way of finding out on the Greenlight page.
Thinking about it, though, 50% only sounds terrible, without knowing how many no votes they had before it doesn't mean a whole lot. Maybe that 50% is one vote, maybe it's 100,000, we don't know. Do we? I couldn't see any way of finding out on the Greenlight page.
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iR has the most arrogant sim community in the world................... and I think and believe that iR is the most overrated sim' in the market! yes, it has a very good online system and laser-scanned tracks, but when it comes to physics and ffb it is very delusional!
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iRacing's community is great if you look in the right places, however sadly it is full of arrogant and just generally rude people. I love it though and it has a lot of good people, but the way they run things and the service itself is far from perfect.. And unfortunately the bad apples are plentiful.
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You are right, there are plenty of rude people their, but you are truly wrong about physics. I have been playing sim racers since 1979 and there are not any racers with better physics. Some folks think rFactor or netKar PRO and of course assetto corsea. These are good games but they don't compete with iRacing.
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I can think of a few with better physics than iRacing.
SimRaceway, Game Stock Car, Rfactor 2, Netkar Pro, Ferrari Virtual Academy and Assetto Corsa.
And let me tell you now, I've bought my G27 in 1963, I free climbed the CN tower in 1965 before I drove around the real Abu Dhabi circuit in 1972, being born into this world in 1986, let me tell you now!
SimRaceway, Game Stock Car, Rfactor 2, Netkar Pro, Ferrari Virtual Academy and Assetto Corsa.
And let me tell you now, I've bought my G27 in 1963, I free climbed the CN tower in 1965 before I drove around the real Abu Dhabi circuit in 1972, being born into this world in 1986, let me tell you now!
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You can't beat iRacing's NASCAR physics, nope. NR2003 engine base is a testament to that. They've always been lacking in the aero. department, but recent updates have brought it up a notch to acceptability. The Williams or HPD don't feel spot on at high speed still, but it's definitely been improved.
The NTM had so much promise only to come out the gate in a sputter instead of the revolution everyone expected. And yet still, while the feeling of the tires is more pronounced, AC's, even FVA's got it beat by a country mile. The only thing that's been really effective is bringing the slip angle up to a more manageable level, although for some reason still on most cars, with the way the balance plays out in the geometry of the suspension, you still get send spinning mid-corner for being an inch off the mark, it's just ridiculous and maddening.
You can most certainly beat iRacing's physics in other car types though, undeniably. How are you gonna tell me the Ford GT in iRacing is better than the GT cars in rF2? The car's more like a beta product.
The MX-5 is too stiff, Solstice too, they can't do roadcars.
Just wait until you try AC's F1 car, that's going to be their flagship and the single car that will take AC to its highest point. If it's as good as their FVA Ferraris, you can expect a massive migration in competitive sim racing for that single reason.
BUT
I know how easily one can respond to everything I said above, conveniently without needing to address iRacing's lacking points in physics - "I wasn't talking about the physics [admitting iRacing's not the best overall], but the service."
Well doy man, nothing can ever compete. iRacing has a billionaire backing it. I'm all for loving things for what they are, but not for blindly ruling it as above all else just because it's more popular.
Well that's a stretch too.
Simraceway does nothing better than iRacing, but overall, it is quite close and very consistent across the board in terms of handling. It's a gmotor1 sim, you can only do so much. Their F1 cars are very uninspiring as well. I do love the way the way some of their higher-end roadcars feel though, like the 1M.
Gamestock car does touring cars really well, better than iRacing's V8Supercar. rFactor 2 has a better tire model at this point, especially in regards to degradation.
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Talking about the iRacing new tyre model, it was the best when it was released as a beta version on the new Nationwide car, that felt great even if it wasnt 100% right it felt, drove and acted far better than the release version that came after it. The problem with iRacing is they only care about numbers, regardless if the numbers result in something that isn't realistic, "oh the numbers have to be right"... it might feel like **** and be completely wrong but "the numbers have to be right".
Talking about the SimRaceway example, I have I think 55 of their cars now and I'l admit it is hit and miss, but the cars that do hit are absolutely phenomenal and none of the iRacing cars are like that, the F1 car in SimRaceway might not be to your liking but it's a long way better than the Williams in iRacing.
As for Assetto Corsa, well I personally think it's on a whole other level, it's the next generation and I have no doubt in my mind that
1. It will be the finest, the premium and the most realistic simulator, Rfactor 2 if it ever gets the attention it needs may be able to compete but Assetto Corsa tech demo is the most realistic handling/reacting and feeling sim. A lot of people don't like the FFB because it feels like a real car, which to me is mind boggling to try to understand, I thought that the whole point was to try to make it feel and handle like a real car?
2. The guys who believe iRacing is the best today will still not change their minds, maybe if they go out on a few track days. iRacing is the best racing service by a mile but it doesn't have the best physics or FFB by a long way.
Talking about the SimRaceway example, I have I think 55 of their cars now and I'l admit it is hit and miss, but the cars that do hit are absolutely phenomenal and none of the iRacing cars are like that, the F1 car in SimRaceway might not be to your liking but it's a long way better than the Williams in iRacing.
As for Assetto Corsa, well I personally think it's on a whole other level, it's the next generation and I have no doubt in my mind that
1. It will be the finest, the premium and the most realistic simulator, Rfactor 2 if it ever gets the attention it needs may be able to compete but Assetto Corsa tech demo is the most realistic handling/reacting and feeling sim. A lot of people don't like the FFB because it feels like a real car, which to me is mind boggling to try to understand, I thought that the whole point was to try to make it feel and handle like a real car?
2. The guys who believe iRacing is the best today will still not change their minds, maybe if they go out on a few track days. iRacing is the best racing service by a mile but it doesn't have the best physics or FFB by a long way.
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In the Ford GT's deffense, they completely rewrote the physics for that car and it feels much much better, one of the best iRacing has to offer ATM.
Other than that, the reality is that they do need to work most of their cars to fix the spin characteristics that everyone hates so much, the Ford GT and 12C are a step on the right direction.
Other than that, the reality is that they do need to work most of their cars to fix the spin characteristics that everyone hates so much, the Ford GT and 12C are a step on the right direction.
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