Association Football Trivia Thread

[MUSC4EVER]

Has Owain Fon Williams ever played for Wales, i know he started in the LOW...

 

[Liquid]

Has Owain Fon Williams ever played for Wales, i know he started in the LOW...

He started out at Crewe.

You're getting confused with another Owain who did start in the WPL before capped.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Ahh Owain Tudor Jones....

 

[Liquid]

Ahh Owain Tudor Jones....

Correct! After starting his career in the Cymru Alliance with Porthmadog, he played in 96 games for Bangor City in the top flight between 2000-2005 before moves to Swansea, Norwich and Inverness saw him pick up 13 caps.

Owain Tudur Jones MUSC4EVER

A reminder of the question seeing as it has slipped to the previous page.

As far as my research shows, there are five players who played in the Welsh Premier League BEFORE playing for the Wales national team.

Who?

Here are clues for the remaining four. They were or have been active players since the 2000s.

- A defender who spent 8 years in the Premiership and was an FA Cup runner-up

- A defender who also became the first professional player to be capped for Wales whilst playing for a non-League team

- A goalkeeper who gained one cap in 2006 and spent most of his career in the English third and fourth tier

- A young striker who will probably play for the national team again in the future

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Is that non-league team player Neil Taylor??

 

[Liquid]

Is that non-league team player Neil Taylor??

It is not Neil Taylor. Neil Taylor did play in the Conference for Wrexham but never played in the WPL and got his first cap playing for Swansea.

 

[polysmut]

Going back to a recent question.

Donald Bell is the only professional footballer to have won a Victoria Cross; the highest of all British orders, decorations and medals. He won it for his actions at the Somme taking down an enemy machine gun location and its trench, including disabling the machine gunner with a revolver.

I've just spotted this.
Donald Simpson Bell: Tribute match to Victoria Cross footballer

 

[Liquid]

What was unique about Tony Cottee's 2000/01 season?

 

[ApexDrift123]

What was unique about Tony Cottee's 2000/01 season?

A different team in each division for a season ?

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Was the previous question answered, about the Welsh Premier League players??

 

[Liquid]

A different team in each division for a season?

Correct! Tony Cottee's final season in football was 2000/01. He began the season at Premier League Leicester City, playing twice in August, before dropping down to Division One Norwich City as player-coach, playing seven times, before departing just a month or so later in October to take over at Division Three Barnet, playing sixteen times, before resigning as player/manager in March 2001 and rounding out the season playing in Division Two for Millwall.

Upon his release that summer, he retired from professional football but was able to secure a place in the record books having played and transferred in all four divisions in one single season.

Was the previous question answered, about the Welsh Premier League players??

It wasn't but enough time had passed without interest that I've let it go. Unless you think you do know the other four?

 

[Liquid]

Teams Of The Inaugural 1992/93 Premier League

1st ???
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2nd ???
3rd ???
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4th ???
5th ???
6th ???
7th ???
8th ???
9th ???
10th ???
11th ???
12th ???
13th ???
14th ???
15th ???
16th ???
17th ???
18th ???
19th ???
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20th ???
21st ???
22nd ???

 

[polysmut]

1st Manchester United
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2nd Blackburn Rovers
3rd Arsenal
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4th Newcastle United
5th Aston Villa
6th Liverpool
7th ???
8th Leeds United
9th ???
10th Everton
11th Wimbledon
12th ???
13th Sheffield Wednesday
14th Norwich City
15th Crystal Palace
16th Southampton
17th Middlesbrough
18th Coventry City
19th Queens Park Rangers
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20th Sheffield United
21st Ipswich Town
22nd Swindon Town

 

[Liquid]

You have 17 correct answers.

Newcastle and Swindon were not founding members.

I'll update the table shortly.


1st Manchester United
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2nd Aston Villa
3rd Norwich City
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4th Blackburn Rovers
5th Queen' Park Rangers
6th Liverpool
7th Sheffield Wednesday
8th ???
9th ???
10th Arsenal
11th ???
12th Wimbledon
13th Everton
14th Sheffield United
15th Coventry City
16th Ipswich Town
17th Leeds United
18th Southampton
19th ???
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20th Crystal Palace
21st Middlesbrough
22nd ???

Newcastle United
Swindon Town

 

[polysmut]

Sunderland?

Tottenham Hotspur
Nottingham Forest
Manchester City

 

[Barra333]

Fulham, Spurs?

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Were Oldham bottom?

Also nice to see this thread back in action 👍

 

[SuperDiscoDaz]

Surely Sheffield United have to be on that table considering Brian Deane scored the 1st ever premier league goal for them.

 

[polysmut]

Surely Sheffield United have to be on that table considering Brian Deane scored the 1st ever premier league goal for them.

Look at 14th place. They're already in there. 👍

Were Oldham bottom?

Oldham is a great shout but I don't think they were relagated that year, I'd guess they fill the missing 19th spot.

 

[Liquid]

Sunderland?

Tottenham Hotspur
Nottingham Forest
Manchester City

3 correct answers but Sunderland were not founding members.

Fulham, Spurs?

Fulham were not founding members and you were slightly too late with Spurs.

Were Oldham bottom?

They were not bottom but they were founding members.

One team left to get!

1st Manchester United +36 84pts
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2nd Aston Villa +17 74pts
3rd Norwich City -4 72pts
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4th Blackburn Rovers +22 71pts
5th Queen' Park Rangers +8 63pts
6th Liverpool +7 59
7th Sheffield Wednesday +4 59pts
8th Tottenham Hotspur -7 59pts
9th Manchester City +5 57pts
10th Arsenal +2 56pts
11th ??? -3 56pts
12th Wimbledon +1 54pts
13th Everton -2 53pts
14th Sheffield United +1 52pts
15th Coventry City -5 52pts
16th Ipswich Town -5 52pts
17th Leeds United -5 51pts
18th Southampton -7 50pts
19th Oldham Athletic -11 49pts
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20th Crystal Palace -13 49pts
21st Middlesbrough -21 44pts
22nd Nottingham Forest -21 40pts

Newcastle United
Swindon Town
Fulham

 

[Famine]

11th ??? -3 56pts

How has no-one mentioned Chelsea yet?

 

[Barra333]

Fulham were not founding members and you were slightly too late with Spurs.

Not that it matters, but I swear @S_Bridge ninja edited Spurs in after I posted

 

[Liquid]

Not that it matters, but I swear @S_Bridge ninja edited Spurs in after I posted

Sorry about that.

How has no-one mentioned Chelsea yet?

Because this was a strange time where Chelsea and Manchester City were midtable and pennyless. Chelsea had not long avoided relegation to the Third Division.

It's also interesting to see Arsenal bang average until Wenger arrived, Liverpool at the start of their slump and defending champions Leeds only avoiding relegation by 3 points.

Then there are teams like Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, Wimbledon and Nottingham Forest who at the time were top flight mainstays but nowadays are long gone.

And how great is it to see only one team going to the Champions League and two teams going to the UEFA Cup? I wish continental football was as selective these days.

It's interesting to see this table and compare it to today's PL scene:

1st Manchester United +36 84pts
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2nd Aston Villa +17 74pts
3rd Norwich City -4 72pts
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4th Blackburn Rovers +22 71pts
5th Queen' Park Rangers +8 63pts
6th Liverpool +7 59
7th Sheffield Wednesday +4 59pts
8th Tottenham Hotspur -7 59pts
9th Manchester City +5 57pts
10th Arsenal +2 56pts
11th Chelsea -3 56pts
12th Wimbledon +1 54pts
13th Everton -2 53pts
14th Sheffield United +1 52pts
15th Coventry City -5 52pts
16th Ipswich Town -5 52pts
17th Leeds United -5 51pts
18th Southampton -7 50pts
19th Oldham Athletic -11 49pts
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20th Crystal Palace -13 49pts
21st Middlesbrough -21 44pts
22nd Nottingham Forest -21 40pts

Newcastle United
Swindon Town
Fulham

With the bulk of the answers it's @S_Bridge's turn.

 

[Famine]

Then there are teams like Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, Wimbledon and Nottingham Forest who at the time were top flight mainstays but nowadays are long gone.

Whoah whoah whoah there. One of those teams was in the Championship playoff final last season and is in the playoff positions currently with a 5pt cushion.

 

[Liquid]

Is it 16 or 17 years since they were last in the Prem?

 

[Barra333]

Sorry about that

Haha, it is nobodies fault - there was a matter of seconds involved. There would be no way you could know unless you were mashing F5.

 

[Famine]

Is it 16 or 17 years since they were last in the Prem?

Yeah, but there's gone (Leeds, Villa, QPR, Forest) and there's long gone (Coventry, Oldham, Charlton).

And then there's Blackpool.

 

[Akmuq]

I'd love to know how it's possible to come third with a negative goal difference.

 

[Barra333]

I'd love to know how it's possible to come third with a negative goal difference.

Close wins and blowout losses.
In the MLB last season, Texas won their division with 97 wins and 65 losses, yet only scored 8 more runs than they conceded (765-757).

 

[Liquid]

Yeah, but there's gone (Leeds, Villa, QPR, Forest) and there's long gone (Coventry, Oldham, Charlton).

And then there's Blackpool.

True.

It's just amusing that during the worst period, Wednesday dropped so low that even I have seen them play. I believe it was Paul Sturrock's first game in charge and you had just signed Chris Marsden. We lost 0-2 thanks to a lovely Chris Brunt free kick.

I'd love to know how it's possible to come third with a negative goal difference.

Their away form wasn't awful but when they lost, it was 0-4, 0-5, heavy results like that and I think 1-7 once.

They went on to knock Bayern München out of the UEFA Cup next season. Go figure.