Attack on gas plant in France.

[FoRiZon]

Jahahahaha.

The last time I heard multiculturalism failed in real life, it was on that Church shooting whose shooter claim black people will dominate America society (no Obama, not just president).

The biggest barriers of multiculturalism is the people that wants to proof otherwise. Period.

If anyone wants to discuss multiculturalism, I suggest take it to the much apropriate thread.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

That's BBC NI. There's been more I've seen on social media but it won't make it big because no-one wants to know how bad multiculturalism failed. Feel sorry for the indigenous as they've been sold down the river badly.

It is not going to be England or Scotland is it if it happened in Northern Ireland?

Is this really a sign of how bad multiculturalism failed, a few hate crimes in UK with a population of over 64 million?

...I haven't been following the news of late; has anyone claim responsibilities yet?

There is more information about it now. Seems he did it for "personal reasons" after "being reprimanded for dropping equipment from a pallet", has had radical views dating back to 2003 and sent two photos of his victim to a friend in Syria: Link.

 

[JKgo]

@Saidur_Ali Okay, thanks.

 

[KSaiyu]

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

 

[Furinkazen]

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

Not even a source. Christ you are really outdoing yourself, congratulations! 👍

 

[polysmut]

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

Hi, I can see that you're busy on the forums here. I mostly just read the opinions threads rather than join the, already jumbled, debate.
I just had the one question, about what we stand for if we are "the West"?
I think you may have answered it but it wasn't overly clear.
Could you confirm, to clear it up for me?
Thanks very much.

 

[Furinkazen]

Hi, I can see that you're busy on the forums here. I mostly just read the opinions threads rather than join the, already jumbled, debate.
I just had the one question, about what we stand for if we are "the West"?
I think you may have answered it but it wasn't overly clear.
Could you confirm, to clear it up for me?
Thanks very much.

Don't get him started, he's already judged some members to be "traitors to the west".

 

[polysmut]

Don't get him started, he's already judged some members to be "traitors to the west".

It was that, that prompted my original question.

Edit:
Referenced most recently in this post.

 

[KSaiyu]

Hi, I can see that you're busy on the forums here. I mostly just read the opinions threads rather than join the, already jumbled, debate.
I just had the one question, about what we stand for if we are "the West"?
I think you may have answered it but it wasn't overly clear.
Could you confirm, to clear it up for me?
Thanks very much.

I didn't see that post! My view of the West (and it's only mine, I can't speak for the majority) is summed up best by the words

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

It was built on the backdrop of Christendom, to which even its most secular members still base its values on. We have forgotten this - or been made to forget it. In this "secular" vacuum has sprung an alien religion, one that knows only to spread by the sword. It tramples on those values, instead preaching submission to the "one true God". There's no freedom. There's no equality. There's brotherhood only amongst the ummah. Ditto this new strain of liberalism - just substitute Allah for Political Correctness and ummah for sheeple.

Not even a source. Christ you are really outdoing yourself, congratulations! 👍

In @Saidur_Ali's post. Didn't read the headline?

 

[Furinkazen]

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

Errrr

I didn't see that post! My view of the West (and it's only mine, I can't speak for the majority) is summed up best by the words

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

It was built on the backdrop of Christendom, to which even its most secular members still base its values on. We have forgotten this - or been made to forget it. In this "secular" vacuum has sprung an alien religion, one that knows only to spread by the sword. It tramples on those values, instead preaching submission to the "one true God". There's no freedom. There's no equality. There's brotherhood only amongst the ummah. Ditto this new strain of liberalism - just substitute Allah for Political Correctness and ummah for sheeple.


In @Saidur_Ali's post. Didn't read the headline?

No source.

 

[Bo]

I never really post that much in Opinions & Current Events, but I do flick through and read everything. For once, I am going to say something though.

It was built on the backdrop of Christendom, to which even its most secular members still base its values on. We have forgotten this - or been made to forget it. In this "secular" vacuum has sprung an alien religion, one that knows only to spread by the sword. It tramples on those values, instead preaching submission to the "one true God". There's no freedom. There's no equality. There's brotherhood only amongst the ummah. Ditto this new strain of liberalism - just substitute Allah for Political Correctness and ummah for sheeple.

This reads like a church sermon that's been fed through Google translate 20 times and then jumbled.

I was perfectly fine with everything in here until these anecdotal rambles came along. I literally have no clue what point you're trying to make anymore.

 

[niky]

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

OMG, sheeple, ISIS is EVIL.

I have no idea who you're taking to. Haven't seen a single person on this board praising the quality of life under ISIS.

 

[KSaiyu]

No source.

It's in his post 👍

This reads like a church sermon that's been fed through Google translate 20 times and then jumbled.

I was perfectly fine with everything in here until these anecdotal rambles came along. I literally have no clue what point you're trying to make anymore.

May sound like that (was brought up Christian but have been agnostic and closer to Baha'i for years. I believe, for example that the LGBT/terrorist attacks occurring on the same day is no coincidence and that this years Ramadan is especially testing for some unknown reason) but you can research Western nations histories and current states for yourself. Here's a start (bottom of the post). If you google "France religion" or "Belgium religion" the major one usually pops up

 

[TenEightyOne]

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Aww is it starting to sink in dhimmi

No source?

And I think you might have misunderstood the context of dhimmi, in the case that the extremist IS minority takes over the world I very much doubt we'll be anywhere close to dhimmi.

As for the IS link...the confusion seems to come from the fact that this disturbed individual had indeed contacted extremist groups and that they may have prompted him to act. Nonetheless this wasn't an organised attack, rather a sporadic murder by a nutter who could have used any name to enact it. From Youniz, Salhi's contact in Syria;

He added that he requested permission from executives of the Islamic State (EI) to broadcast the photos sent to him by Yassin Salhi. Information in part confirmed by the RFI journalist David Thomson, who holds a source of EI in Syria that the attack "was not sponsored by the IE, but that a member of the EI Syria prompted him to act." Discussions are also under way on whether to claim the attack.

Source.

It seems to me that if I were to contact IS tomorrow and say that I want to attack any target in the West they wouldn't dissuade me. If I were deluded enough, divorcing my wife and in contact with a charismatic individual in Syria who was known to encourage jihad then who knows what I might say on the phone? That's the situation he was in.

Also be careful of reports from France of this being a terrorist attack, their definition differs from ours. Lubitz's CFIT was also a terrorist attack in the French definition;

Under the Penal Code, any "against life" human or "degradation" of goods aimed at "seriously disturb public order by intimidation or terror" constitutes an act of terrorism.

Plus des sources.

 

[KSaiyu]

There is more information about it now. Seems he did it for "personal reasons" after "being reprimanded for dropping equipment from a pallet", has had radical views dating back to 2003 and sent two photos of his victim to a friend in Syria: Link.

Misses out headline

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Classic example of kitman

Obvious trick is obvious.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Misses out headline

Islamic State 'linked to France factory beheading'

Classic example of kitman

Obvious trick is obvious.

You think I'm deliberately lying by omission? Someone wanted to know if there is more information about it and if anyone has claimed responsibility. I gave a quick summary with a link to article, hardly omitting. I think most can work out the links either from hearing about the attack or reading the article.

However your posts seems classic example of kitman, post a headline omitting the rest or post a different narrative with link to article under a paywall: Link.

 

[polysmut]

I didn't see that post! My view of the West (and it's only mine, I can't speak for the majority) is summed up best by the words

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

It was built on the backdrop of Christendom, to which even its most secular members still base its values on. We have forgotten this - or been made to forget it. In this "secular" vacuum has sprung an alien religion, one that knows only to spread by the sword. It tramples on those values, instead preaching submission to the "one true God". There's no freedom. There's no equality. There's brotherhood only amongst the ummah. Ditto this new strain of liberalism - just substitute Allah for Political Correctness and ummah for sheeple.

That doesn't really answer my query at all.
It creates more questions but none of them are particularly relevant to the thread title.

 

[Dotini]

That doesn't really answer my query at all.
It creates more questions but none of them are particularly relevant to the thread title.

Boiled down, I think maybe his answer to your original query is that (Christian-backdropped) secularism - and freedom, especially freedom from encroaching religions - is what we stand for, and also is what's lacking with respect to this thread title, really all thread titles (!). So he sees those who import or support religionists as traitors to the cause of secularism, or laicite, as he says. Maybe?

 

[polysmut]

Boiled down, I think maybe his answer to your original query is that (Christian-backdropped) secularism - and freedom, especially freedom from encroaching religions - is what we stand for, and also is what's lacking with respect to this thread title, really all thread titles (!). So he sees those who import or support religionists as traitors to the cause of secularism, or laicite, as he says. Maybe?

I was also confused at the possible contradiction in claiming to be unable to speak for the majority when my original question was, at least partly, prompted by an accusation of somebody's treachery.

Edit:

No one has the balls to say this but you are a traitor to the West and everything we stand for.

seemed to be at odds with

My view of the West (and it's only mine, I can't speak for the majority)

 

[Dotini]

I was also confused at the possible contradiction in claiming to be unable to speak for the majority when my original question was, at least partly, prompted by an accusation of somebody's treachery.

I used to watch Walter Cronkite on a daily basis. He was the most respected TV news anchor of his generation. But even he made mistakes, once quipping something like, "It's hard to be profound once every 24 hours."

Equally, it's hard to be profound once every 24 hours on an international opinion forum. IMO, anyone who posts too profusely is going to have a number of less-than-profound posts.