Audi R8

[Danny]

R8 V10 final figures.

V10
5204ccm
386kw/525ps @ 540Nm


Dont ask me for a source. take it as "speculative".

So then, it's not actually final figures at all then?

 

[daan]

Speculative = made up.

Move on. Nothing to see here.

 

[Joey D]

How about we use a source with a speculation? Apparantly the V10 R8 will use the engine from the RS6 Avant.

Audi R8 slated to get twin-turbo V10 from RS6 Avant

Leftlane broke the news that Audi would be fitting its R8 supercar with a V10 powerplant earlier this month, but we now have confirmation from Volkswagen’s head of powertrain development, Wolfgang Hatz, that the R8 will indeed receive V10 power.

Moreover, Hatz says that the V10 powerplant will not be the one that Audi was reportedly developing specifically for use in the R8. Instead, the R8 will get the same twin-turbo powerplant used in the Audi RS6 Avant. In RS6 Avant guise, the 5.2L engine produces 580 horsepower and 480 lb-ft of torque.

As you may recall, Quattro GmbH director Wener Frowein revealed that the three R8 prototypes that burned to the ground last year were powered by the very same engine. But Hartz told Autocar that the overheating problem was actually solved by using a roof-mounted vent, similar to the one seen on the R8 V12 TDI concept.

It is also being reported that the V10-powered R8 will be dubbed the RS8, which leaves the RS version of the Audi A8 in limbo.

If the twin-turbo R8 has indeed received the green light and this is not just some kind of sick April Fool’s Day joke, expect the RS8 to hit the market in mid-2009.

 

[Jim Prower]

That's...MORE than the Gallardo LP560-4!

Well, way to make something redundant, guys...It wouldn't surprise me at all if Lambo got all up in a huff about it.

 

[Keef]

At least the Lambo engine sounds good. This turbo thing is gonna have turbo flap, turbo torque, that turbo leaf-blower exhaust sound, and the turbo we're-going-fast-but-it-feeeels-sooooo-slooowww feeling. I'm surprised they didn't give it the diesel.

A Lamborghini will never be boring.

 

[Joey D]

Not to mention that a Lambo will look better and carry high "prestige" in the automotive world due to the brand name. Plus you can probably score with hotter chicks if you have a Lambo.

 

[forza2.0]

So then, it's not actually final figures at all then?

How you manage to work that one out.

And I see jondot makes another great post.

Press release will follow in a couple days. Should shut some people up. Oh and its not using FI anymore. Audi did consider it.

 

[Joey D]

So I take it it will be announced at the Paris Motor Show then.

 

[daan]

Press release will follow in a couple days. Should shut some people up. Oh and its not using FI anymore. Audi did consider it.

We knew back in July it wasn't using forced induction.

Audi RS4, A1, S5 and R8 V10 details

By Ben Pulman

14 July 2008 12:25

Anything else?

The V10-engined R8 we'll see this autumn will apparently be naturally aspirated. When questioned about the R8 using the twin-turbo engine from the RS6, our source denied this. ‘No, it will use the engine from the S6 and S8.’

Source

 

[forza2.0]

We knew back in July it wasn't using forced induction.



Source

Its not the same engine as from the S6 or S8 though. Might be be a 5.2 V10 but its shares as many parts to that of the 5.2 V10 of the R8 V10 and LP560 as the 4.2 V8 from the S5 does to the 4.2 V8 of the RS4.

Very different natured engines.

 

[homeforsummer]

Press release will follow in a couple days. Should shut some people up

Why bother posting for the sake of it when there's a press release due out soon anyway? Jondot's post was just expressing the opinions of the selection of us who are bored of unsubstantiated claims.

 

[Danny]

How you manage to work that one out.

Erm, perhaps the fact you said yourself it was speculative.

 

[forza2.0]

perhaps because I myself have trust in my source and as to how he comes by the information. I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

 

[Roo]

I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

Why shouldn't they? Otherwise you could be lying. Of course, any information you provide we would find about eventually anyway, so why not just wait for the official release and save yourself all the bother?

If you do have a source from within VAG, then why not let a car magazine know? Then the magazine could be quoted as as source here.

 

[daan]

perhaps because I myself have trust in my source and as to how he comes by the information. I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

My source says the new R8 will have a V9 engine made of cheese.

Is it any more, or less, reliable than your source and how do you prove it? Do you understand?

With your past, I do not believe you. You, or rather your source, may be correct, but I do not believe anything you say unless you back it up with a reliable source.

 

[Dave A]

perhaps because I myself have trust in my source and as to how he comes by the information. I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

It's not specifically this one time, it's your reputation overall. We have members who are privvy to insider information more so than the rest of us on certain subjects and over time they become trusted because the information they provide is consistently accurate and it is explainable as to how they can get this info. Before you start getting the hump because people don't readily accept your word for it remember, this is the internet and only a fool just takes someones word for it because he says you should. Before people will start to trust your word you need a reputation as someone who's word is true and you don't have that. That's not to say you can't or won't every get one, that's upto you, but it's not unreasonable for people to have doubts.

 

[JCE]

1. Good god can you imagine how fast a V10 R8 will be?
2. Why the hell would you want a Gallardo instead?
3. How pissed off are current R8 owners knowing there is a much better engine coming.

 

[buickgnx88]

I'm sure they're rich enough where they could just trade in their V8 R8 and get a V10 R8.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

2. Why the hell would you want a Gallardo instead?

Because the LP560-4 is the best looking car since ever.

3. How pissed off are current R8 owners knowing there is a much better engine coming.

That depends on how much they value power, but yeah they can probably just trade it in.

 

[Joey D]

2. Why the hell would you want a Gallardo instead?

Looks, Lambo brand name, noise, possibly collectors value later on down the line, etc. Really when you tell people you have an Audi they aren't going to think of much, you tell them you have a Lambo they are going to get all excited. Sometimes that's all that matters to people.

 

[McLaren]

2. Why the hell would you want a Gallardo instead?

Well, for one thing, depending how fast they decide to make this "RS8", the new LP560-4 is leaps & bounds ahead of the regular R8. We're talking about a baby Lambo that spanks the 997 GT2 & Viper ACR, and on the heels of the Scuderia. Plus, after hearing the LP today, it sounds amazing. The new V10 is much louder at idle, and the quad exhuasts let out an unearthly roar just at 5,000RPM.

 

[Jondot]

As it's been said, I think the name 'Lamborghini' does a hell of a lot for some people. If you're in the market to spend that much on a car, the chances are that a good percentage will splash out the extra cash for the Lambo. Let's not forget, they're not identical cars as such either - much like the Seat Leon and VW Golf, they're different to look at, different to be in, even different to own. I'd rather have my car serviced at a Lamborghini Dealer than an Audi one, put it that way.

I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

Yeah, coz they're the idiots. The ones that don't believe information that appears as if from nowhere... I'm having difficulty understanding how you manage to keep yourself upright for 15 hours a day, I really am.

 

[forza2.0]

As it's been said, I think the name 'Lamborghini' does a hell of a lot for some people. If you're in the market to spend that much on a car, the chances are that a good percentage will splash out the extra cash for the Lambo. Let's not forget, they're not identical cars as such either - much like the Seat Leon and VW Golf, they're different to look at, different to be in, even different to own. I'd rather have my car serviced at a Lamborghini Dealer than an Audi one, put it that way.



Yeah, coz they're the idiots. The ones that don't believe information that appears as if from nowhere... I'm having difficulty understanding how you manage to keep yourself upright for 15 hours a day, I really am.

so tell me little boy what makes you believe magazines? Most of their info is wrong, others "steal" info from forums and then theres the few that get it right every now and again. As I have said on other foums people are happy to get such info.

 

[Jim Prower]

Excuse me? are you actually saying that Road and Track/Car and Driver, institutions with complex test equipment and proprietary test tracks, do nothing more than get info off blogs? Laughable. They're probably better connected than you are.

What sort of magazine are you reading?

 

[Danny]

so tell me little boy what makes you believe magazines? Most of their info is wrong, others "steal" info from forums and then theres the few that get it right every now and again. As I have said on other foums people are happy to get such info.

It amazes me how wrong one person can be.

Fiiiiiine.

 

[Jim Prower]

Dan, that's getting a little personal.

 

[Jondot]

so tell me little boy what makes you believe magazines?

...because it's the normal thing to do, maybe?

Right, so lemmy get this straight. You're allowed to question reputable sources such as car magazines, and we're not allowed to question the source of your information?

Look, Forza, I don't particularly care what you believe. If you choose to believe that the world's motoring press is polluting your mind with false information, that's just fine by me. Equally, if you choose to believe whatever your 'source' tells you, fine. But don't try to force that crap on me. Am I being unreasonable or something? Is it particularly difficult to actually include a source with the information you post? Am I wrong for at least wanting to know where/who my information has come from? Do please tell me if this is the case!

Dan, that's getting a little personal.

I could say the same about Forza's 'little boy' comment, to be fair.

 

[JohnBM01]

I must say one thing. I've never hated the Audi R8 road car. While I do think the new Audi LED headlight style is pretty handsome, it's especially handsome for the Audi R8. I've loved that new headlight style once I got to see those LEDs in action. In addition, that engine sounds impressive! I still remember that Super Bowl commercial featuring the Audi R8.

You can say that my respect for the Audi R8 road car has increased steadily. It's a lovely car for what it is and what it can do. A video I saw on YouTube provided by cars.com shown how this car can be very drivable even in snowy conditions. I would probably say this is one of a few cars I'd get in white since I think white with those LED lights look nice. I would love to see this car in person. And if I'm lucky, get to sit in it. I can't drive it because I don't have a license.

 

[ExigeEvan]

perhaps because I myself have trust in my source and as to how he comes by the information. I only said its speculative because for some reason on GTP certain select few members require a "source"

If you were a little more modest when you produce info, it wouldn't be so bad. But you're not. You come across as if it is cold hard fact which we should believe with no argument or question of source. Saying somethings like "I've heard speculation that..." is fine, but if someone disputes it you have no grounds to reply because you have no source.

We believe car magazines because some have built up a good reputation. For example, with newspapers I wouldn't believe anthing that The Sun prints unless I'd seen it with my own eyes, but The Daily Telegraph carries abit more weight in its reputation (unless it's anti-labour party then I just go on BBC).

3. How pissed off are current R8 owners knowing there is a much better engine coming.

No different to anyone that buy any consumer product, and especially if you buy the launch model. If you buy the final run model you can guarantee you'll have the best version of a model, but then the new model comes out. Some people can live with that, some can't.

 

[Metar]

It's like reading on F1.com or the BBC sports page compared to La Gazzetta dello Sport: one can be trusted, the other one blends fluently between rumors and real news.