Best car for Le Mans 30 minute 700 race?

[CoffeeCupAF]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

 

[BlackedoutRX7LM]

I like cars that are close to 700pp right out of the box. I’ve been trying some other options lately with minimal tuning:

Ruf CTR3: decently fun, not great on fuel

Ferrari 458: Need some bolt on parts to get to 700pp. Fastest top speed I can recall hitting. Really bad on fuel, worst I’ve tested.

McLaren F1: I believe mine is bone stock but racing tires. It does resemble its reputation of being softer than expected. Definitely fast, can one stop with some lift/coast. Ran the race a bunch of times to justify the purchase price but it’s really not compelling beyond the center driver’s position. I could see where suspension tuning would go a long way.

McLaren 650S: Relatively cheap option. One of the more powerful 700pp cars I’ve run across. Seems like a strange power curve, peaks around 7500rpm but refs to around 9000. Used Priano’s tune minus the transmission tuning. Would describe the drive as pleasant. Can do a one stopper with some management.


Still my favorite run is the Ferrari 330 P4. Just the right mix of efficiency, speed, and excitement.

 

[smoothbore12]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

Depends on what you seek for.
How often you race ?
If you race that once in a while,there isn't many things to ask for.
If you are running every day 2-3 times for example, then you want some variety and definitely you can afford the price .
Also if your only parameter is just get the 825 k ,you find a car that suits you and that's it.
You can also test various cars from the garage, test them, seek for your faster laps , judge the cars behaviour etc.
The outcome will always be the same, 825 k in the bank ,but the content is totally different if you're not targeting just take the credits and leave.

They are enough ways to make a " boring " procedure interesting .
At Sartegna for example they are some guys that doing one race behind another just to bust the 23 min. barrier, trying to find the " best " settings for that , best car etc .
That , is way different from the way take the credits and go .

 

[syntex123]

I think I found myself a new favorite. Slap on some parts (I'll list them below) and only adjust downforce and you're good to go.
Fuel map set to 6, and pit as you need tires / fuel. I pitted twice in my first attempt, because I had heavy rain when lap 3 started.
The car felt good in the rain, too.

"Jaguar XJ220S TWR-ish"


Parts:

Racing mediums (and rain tires)
Fully customizable suspension
Fully customizable differential
Fully customizable ECU
Fully customizable racing transmission
Racing air cleaner
Racing Silencer
Racing exhaust manifold
Racing brakes and pads
Racing crank shaft
Increase body rigidity

Downforce: 130 - 300


I'm sure it can be tuned to perform better, but I like it as is actually.
Initially I thought it felt like a heavy boat but that was before any parts were installed. (Except aero)

 

[SnakeEyes427]

I think I found myself a new favorite. Slap on some parts (I'll list them below) and only adjust downforce and you're good to go.
Fuel map set to 6, and pit as you need tires / fuel. I pitted twice in my first attempt, because I had heavy rain when lap 3 started.
The car felt good in the rain, too.

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"Jaguar XJ220S TWR-ish"


Parts:

Racing mediums (and rain tires)
Fully customizable suspension
Fully customizable differential
Fully customizable ECU
Fully customizable racing transmission
Racing air cleaner
Racing Silencer
Racing exhaust manifold
Racing brakes and pads
Racing crank shaft
Increase body rigidity

Downforce: 130 - 300


I'm sure it can be tuned to perform better, but I like it as is actually.
Initially I thought it felt like a heavy boat but that was before any parts were installed. (Except aero)

I have been turning one myself. Fuel is a issue with it. But wide open 200 mph at the end of the straights. Tune will be up soon.

 

[syntex123]

I have been turning one myself. Fuel is a issue with it. But wide open 200 mph at the end of the straights. Tune will be up soon.

Not an issue that matter much, still an easy win. But yes it drinks a little more than I like.

Looking forward to testing it, do give me a tap 👍🏻

 

[Sakinen]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

Every road car above 650 PP, is an easy win, much easier than Gr.4 cars. The closer to 700 PP, the easier it gets. Their main advantage is the top speed. Mind the fuel consumption though, because road cars of this class, are really thirsty!

 

[Pesselles]

I drive my Nissan GT-R Gr.3 (downside to 700PP) on le Mans.
With FM6, it's only 1 pit stop for fuel (tyres depend on weather) and it's a no stress win every day

 

[Cayit]

LM55 VGT Gr1
RH tires
FM6 for first 6 laps FM1 for last lap
No pit stop required can pit for wet tires only if rain is heavy

I did all the adjustment, the thing is if it's raining you can't drive with RH.
I just started the race with IM all the way to the end...Was easy to win

 

[smoothbore12]

I did all the adjustment, the thing is if it's raining you can't drive with RH.
I just started the race with IM all the way to the end...Was easy to win

Did rain catch you at some point or you run all the way with intermediates at dry weather?

Since i have test almost all group C cars ( except CLK ) all of them can run 7 laps on FM6 .
Top on the list are the nissan R92CP with the mazda 787 following and that's due to its glitch tunning sheet that works in a crazy manner, for example lower settings on ECU and power ....alters the pp !!
Nissan can easy run around 4.00 min. on FM6 and if weather force you to pit you can use any FM you like till the end , the same applies to all of them .

Usually the race time last 26-27 min cause you have to wait, saving the 7th or 8th lap if its bone dry

My favourite one is the 962 , not the fastest but i love his sound.

 

[Pesselles]

UPDATE

The CLK GTR on FM6 can run the 7 laps without pitting for fuel.

 

[LeftoverPizza]

I rotate between these, all PP690+:

Honda RA 272, FM6 and RM tyres, no stops.
Ford GT40 mk1, FM6, RM tyres, 2 stops for fuel,
Ford GT40 mk4, FM6 RM tyres, 1 stop for fuel,
Ferrari 330 P4, FM6 RM tyres, 1 stop for fuel,
Porsche 917, FM6 RM tyres, 1 stop for fuel,
BAC Mono, FM6 RM tyres, 1 stop for fuel,
VW Beetle '66 (engine swapped), FM6 RM tyres, 2 stops for fuel.

amount of stops in clear weather, obviously. Though most of the times, rain appears when I'm on a lap where I have to pit anyway, or is manageable for another lap till pitting.

Stopped caring about fast lap times, as long as I do just 6 laps and win as close to the 30 minutes mark as possible. It's a grind race for me, so it's all about the moolah.

 

[smoothbore12]

And Sartegna is a griding race but many guys are " obsessed" with braking the 23s barrier, doing the fastest lap ,Tokyo also etc.etc.
Anyone can do as he pleased even if the cause is about the moolah.

There's no right or wrong about what someone prefers or the " ways " he chose for it .
That race is time limited,if was 6 or 7 laps it would be quite different but it isn't.
And i could say why should i do 2 stops in a " thirsty" car where i can do one or none .
There isn't a golden rule, just different preferences to what someone ask for and they can change from time to time.

The only thing that remains is , to help someone to find what's " ideal " according to his preferences whatever those are.

 

[Cayit]

Did rain catch you at some point or you run all the way with intermediates at dry weather?

Since i have test almost all group C cars ( except CLK ) all of them can run 7 laps on FM6 .
Top on the list are the nissan R92CP with the mazda 787 following and that's due to its glitch tunning sheet that works in a crazy manner, for example lower settings on ECU and power ....alters the pp !!
Nissan can easy run around 4.00 min. on FM6 and if weather force you to pit you can use any FM you like till the end , the same applies to all of them .

Usually the race time last 26-27 min cause you have to wait, saving the 7th or 8th lap if its bone dry

My favourite one is the 962 , not the fastest but i love his sound.

Even without rain on Dry Weather i could drive with IM until the end...

 

[smoothbore12]

Even without rain on Dry Weather i could drive with IM until the end...

Before the 1.31 it was my favourite way running the GT500s on intermediate tyres and non stop races.
Was very slow at top speed ( 230khm approximately without draft ) but was superb at turn speed especially on last part .
Now that can't happen and i turn my attention at the group C monsters with non stop settings but on RH tyres .
I did a version of 962 that tyres can last 7 laps ,but am not excited to use it anymore
Its an alternative anyway for lazy Griding guys .

 

[Stangalicious]

I did all the adjustment, the thing is if it's raining you can't drive with RH.
I just started the race with IM all the way to the end...Was easy to win

If it rains I pit for wets but don't usually take any fuel

 

[Cayit]

Honda Project 2&4 powered by RC213V

Easy win with 1 Stop and FM3 and Start with IM until Round 4 then IM or RM depends on the weather!

 

[SnakeEyes427]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

This has more less turned in to "How do you like your coffee? ☕️ "

Some like a smooth drive like a warm vanilla latte.
The Gr1 grinder.

Others of us want to be challenged and have ours black and strong!
The build a GT2 class car from back in the day and hold on for dear life as it trys to kill you, grinder.

Then there are the tea people who use a Gr4 car for the Gr4 race but, they do their own thing.

💡
I glance over at my rc drag car box and see the '69 Camaro picture and go "I should build a Trans Am Camaro for the Le Mans....wait, I have a whole bunch of muscle cars I can turn Trans Am! 🤤"

 

[BangsMcCoy]

This has more less turned in to "How do you like your coffee? ☕️ "

Some like a smooth drive like a warm vanilla latte.
The Gr1 grinder.

Others of us want to be challenged and have ours black and strong!
The build a GT2 class car from back in the day and hold on for dear life as it trys to kill you, grinder.

Then there are the tea people who use a Gr4 car for the Gr4 race but, they do their own thing.

What about those of us that like to use Gr.B, Gr.2 and swapped road cars here?

 

[smoothbore12]

This has more less turned in to "How do you like your coffee? ☕️ "

Some like a smooth drive like a warm vanilla latte.
The Gr1 grinder.

Others of us want to be challenged and have ours black and strong!
The build a GT2 class car from back in the day and hold on for dear life as it trys to kill you, grinder.

Then there are the tea people who use a Gr4 car for the Gr4 race but, they do their own thing.

Couldn't agree more.
Am at group Gr1 and C category, double coffee Ethiopia blend, with a bit sweet taste no cookies.
If anyone has interest for this kind of " coffee" i could share the recipe ( settings ) .

 

[SnakeEyes427]

What about those of us that like to use Gr.B, Gr.2 and swapped road cars here?

Gr.2 and GT2 are basically the same. In '98, the CLKs and Viper GTS-Rs were in the same class. Ergo, they are the strong, black coffee type.

Gr.B seems like the Irish coffee type. Dubble strong and not a care about your physics-based logic.

Swapped? I assume you mean engine Swapped.
Well, they are the "Hold my Speedway Stout and watch this 💩!" Type.

 

[JauntsB]

Go to for me is the Supra '18 concept, tuned down, hard tires with IM and Wet for backup. One refuel - 6 on the fuel gauge.

 

[Wayfarer_gamb]

So far I have been beating this race fairly easily in the Genesis G70 Gr.4 with minor adjustments. However, are there any other cars that are any better to do this race in? I was thinking maybe of getting the Toyota Supra GT500 97 but is it actually worth it if I already have a car that I can comfortably win the race with? Would the difference be noticeable or fairly similar? 1.8 mil is a lot to spend simply for a few seconds of time difference.

I’ve been working this race since launch. My modded Shelby cobra won very consistently then they changed wet tire dynamics and it was a crap shoot. So after going through many cars. The best hands down c7 corvette, get some hard race tires add a low rpm supercharger and win the race by a couple of minutes. It’s great of fuel. And requires a very small amount of modifications.

 

[bigmull]

I’ve been working this race since launch. My modded Shelby cobra won very consistently then they changed wet tire dynamics and it was a crap shoot. So after going through many cars. The best hands down c7 corvette, get some hard race tires add a low rpm supercharger and win the race by a couple of minutes. It’s great of fuel. And requires a very small amount of modifications.

I am sure that the last update has improved since then.You might want to try my Tune for the Cobra under “The Doc’s Classic Car Tunes “

 

[MatskiMonk]

So, despite hating accelerated time races with weather, I've done this one a few times recently. BMW VGT works for me no probs.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Alfa Romeo 155 dtm , fun, fast, with this car I always win easy..
2 stops and it works very well with hard tires and when it rains (almost always), I put on intermediates and arrive calmly at the end.
Sometimes 6 laps are enough for me if it rains a lot.

 

[OldandSlow]

I’ve used at least 20 different cars. Easy race to win, as long as I can get 2 laps on fuel.

 

[Cowboy]

I did it in the Raptor just now.

 

[SidsCycleShop]

I've been having fun with trying just about anything and everything I can tune to 600-700PP. Maxxed out '73 Carrera RS widebody has been a fun one, as is the RA272. My general strategy is to find a car and fuel trim that can do 3-4 laps on a tank, pit in for RW when needed, and often I'll find myself with at least a 2:30 lead at the end of lap 6 with less than 2:30 to go, so I make like Dan Gurney at the '62 Daytona Continental: park just before the finish line and wait for the clock to run out.

 

[bigmull]

I've been having fun with trying just about anything and everything I can tune to 600-700PP. Maxxed out '73 Carrera RS widebody has been a fun one, as is the RA272. My general strategy is to find a car and fuel trim that can do 3-4 laps on a tank, pit in for RW when needed, and often I'll find myself with at least a 2:30 lead at the end of lap 6 with less than 2:30 to go, so I make like Dan Gurney at the '62 Daytona Continental: park just before the finish line and wait for the clock to run out.

Get the Honda 272 nearly 10 laps of fuel and if the weather holds a set of RH will last the whole race.

 

[Doncarlone]

• Every car in gr.b . FM6 will get you about 3 laps of fuel. You will destroy every rival ai in speed even on fm6.
• Old group C cars ( 787b, sauber c9, etc).

Those are the cars I mainly use on le mans 700pp.