"Blue Devil" News: Test Details Roll In

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I hope not, that would take an incredibly desireable car and knock it down several notches.

While I would be very grateful to someone if they gave me a new F430 with the F1 box, I would only actually own it for the time it took to find a long empty tunnel, roll the windows down, run up and down the gearbox several times, and then go trade it in...

Ironically, if I had the cash, the only super/sports car that I could actually justify the purchase of is the Z06, because in my head the math adds up to such an incredible bargain, so yes, I did just say I would trade in an F430 for a Z06 and a (very) large profit.
 
looks like the blue devil wont be happening

Sit down before reading this. It could be life changing....

An old friend of mine who is a GM Powertrain Tech in Warren, MI called me out of the blue today (4pm AZ time). I haven't talked to him since our daughter was born this past July. Anyway, he said he just found out they got their budget to do beta development on the "C7's" powertrain. I said , C7? You guys haven't started selling C6's yet!

He say's all this talk of the "Blue Devil" C6 is misinformation meant to keep the journalists at bay. He says there won't be a "Blue Devil" version of the C6. He said that there will be a Z06 or Z07 (as yet undetermined) version of C6 that will be a 2006 model. It will make 50-75 more HP than the C6's LS2.

Here's where it gets interesting:

He says the "C7" will be out, possibly in 07, more likely in 08, and that GM will sell BOTH platforms concurrently.

Both cars will carry the Corvette badge, but each will be significantly different in design, layout, and capability.

Are you sitting down?

He says the C7 is MID-ENGINED. The chassis is coming from the Cadillac Cien concept car, and the price tag WILL be north of 100 grand. They are targetting the Lamborghini Murcielago as the performance benchmark. I asked about the engine layout (OHC, multi valve, aspiration), but he wouldn't tell me. He just said I'd love it.

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt, but this is the same guy who told me in July that the C6 had exposed headlights, an open cowl, and that the interior looked like a reworked C5's.
I trust him. I'm gonna FREAK if he turns out right again.

Of course I will continue badgering the hell out of him to keep leaking info. And no, none of you can know his name. I don't want to lose him his job.

My sources tell me the following:

The C7 will be a very expensive $100,000 version of the Z06.

Engine code LTT
7.5 liter 12 cylinder Twin Turbo LTT motor
650 HP output.
Carbon Fiber body parts.
Dry Sump
Aluminum Frame
2800 lbs.
Titanium engine parts
Three valve/cyl heads as seen on the 2006 Z06 7.0 liter V8 below
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A Mid-engined Corvette, I think there has been a concept or two in the past but it really won't be a Corvette, so why bastadrise the Corvette name by naming it one. By all means GM, make a mid engined V12 supercar that's above the Corvette in price and performance but don't call it a Corvette.
 
live4speed
A Mid-engined Corvette, I think there has been a concept or two in the past but it really won't be a Corvette, so why bastadrise the Corvette name by naming it one. By all means GM, make a mid engined V12 supercar that's above the Corvette in price and performance but don't call it a Corvette.
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for some reason i dont think it will be mid engined as in ferrari mid engined more like S2k,maserati quattroporte mid engined type maybe :confused:
 
Holdenhsvgtsr
looks like the blue devil wont be happening
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This looks like BS as it tells us who from GM leaked the info which a friend wouldnt do. Well it wouldnt be hard for GM to find out anyway.
 
No, it quite clearly doesn't say who leaked the info, it even goes as far to say that they wion't give them name so the person doesn't lose his job. It could be BS, but not for the reason you mentioned.

Then it would be described as front engined or front mid-engined, not mid-engined even though it technically is. Even if it was front-mid engined, that's still a turbo charged V12 which shouldn't go in a Corvete, this is me saying that and I'm not even a big Vette person, wait until Blazin reads that :lol:. That said that source doesn't confirm anything, it just fuels specualtion, but it may be true, and if it is, shame on GM for stamping the Vette name on something that isn't a Vette just for the sake of it.
 
Before we have heard that the blue corvette we saw on the 'ring was testing a C7 drivetrain. But what we do know now is that the Z06 is not as fast as its rumoured 'ring time suggests.
 
What does this have to do with the Z06's ring time? What does this prove about the Z06's ring time? The Vette that recorded that time a yellow one, not the blue one that was spotted at a similar time.
 
They are targetting the Lamborghini Murcielago as the performance benchmark.
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The Z06 is "supposedly" faster than that but how can it be if the murcielago is the planned benchmark for a faster model?
 
I didn't notice that before, the Murcielago is a fast car, a very fast car, but by no means is it a benchmark car.
 
Poverty
Just going by what Ive read.
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sure you havent got it mixed up with the ford GT when they were launched they called 500 but when people dynoed them they had 550,same with the viper srt-10 ,when it came out they claimed 500 but it really had 525
 
The SAE Dyno says 505 on the Z06 so I'll trust that.

A Twin Turbo 6.5 Liter V-12?

So basically two of the 3.2 V-6's (they do have a 3.2, right, I'm not insane am I?) stuck together.

With $3 a gallon gas?

I don't buy it, it would be neat to see a 650 Hp, 2800 lb, mid engine Chevy challenge the world throne full on, but I don't see it, and I don't see it being a Corvette especially.
 
The thing with the idea of mid engine vette is that it won't sell well with the regular buyers of the vette. There are people who go out every few years and buy a new vette will never go out and buy a mid engine car. Didn't GM learn their lession with the Ferio?
 
Holdenhsvgtsr
sure you havent got it mixed up with the ford GT when they were launched they called 500 but when people dynoed them they had 550,same with the viper srt-10 ,when it came out they claimed 500 but it really had 525
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Its also on wikipedia that says it has near 550hp. Ive read that on several sites.
 
Poverty
Its also on wikipedia that says it has near 550hp. Ive read that on several sites.
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from wikipedia
The new Z06 arrived as a 2006 model in the third quarter of 2005. It has a 7.0 L (7,008 cc/427.6 in³) version of the Small-Block engine codenamed LS7. Officially certified output is 505 hp (376 kW), however it is believed GM underrated the figure. Dave Hill, the chief engineer for the C6 Corvette, says that it is a much further departure from the standard Corvettes and more like the C6-R that GM is building for the American Le Mans Series.
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they say they believe its underrated but i still see 505bhp there, not 550
 
Poverty
Okay, it doesnt :rolleyes:
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No version of the Wikipedia page on Corvettes reads that the C6 Z06 has 550hp. It doesn't appear anywhere in the history of that page either.
 
It must be on a different page from the one your looking at because I only just today read that on wikepedia it was rumoured that the Z06 was underatted and with some people claiming power was closer to 550hp. It also said SAE power was stated at 505hp. I'll dig it up.
 
With a mod or two yeah, stock one's have always shown at 500-505-510ish bhp with variations depending on location adn weather.
 
Okay, the story is absolute BS. As a die-hard Corvette fan, some who lives and dies with the Corvette, there wouldnt be a single grain of truth to the story, as GM would never get that radical with the Corvette. They tried in the '70s and '80s with mid-engined V8 and wankel-powered models, and every time, they backed out because the heads at GM didnt like it, and neither did the public.

If GM was to ever build a twin-turbo V12 car, it would come from Cadillac, not Chevrolet. Chevrolet won't ever go bigger than a V8 in anything, as their history will not permit them to. Cadillac however has been building the big ones for years and years, so a V12 is possible. Word has been that they have been working on a V12 program for use in the XLR and possibly in the RWD DTS replacement (possibly called the ULS).

Given the current generation cycle needed for a Corvette to stay compeditive, we are looking at about a seven to eight year cycle, putting the C7 Corvette in a window of about 2012 at the earliest. But even the C7 would be a front-engined, rear-wheel-drive, V8-powered coupe and convertable.
 
Clarkson and friends at Top Gear just tested the Z06, enjoy the footage...

 

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