BMW F20 1 Series revealed.. ummm, yeah..
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OMG MUCH WANT 
Especially this 3-door..
Any word of 130i? or possibly even 135i?
Especially this 3-door..
Any word of 130i? or possibly even 135i?
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Looks a lot better than the pre-facelift model, very much agreed! If the F20's going to be the last RWD 1series, BMW should really, really release a proper M version. Name it M1 Coupe and M1 Hatch, if you must. How I'd love a an M1 Hatch. The M135i is supposed to be pretty nice already, why not crank that up a notch?
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There was only ever a 130i for the original want series, the M135i takes the place of the 135i and it'll probably be updated to the M140i (still with a 3 litre twin turbo)OMG MUCH WANT
Especially this 3-door..
Any word of 130i? or possibly even 135i?
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-> Thats it, this will be my car along with my E46 if it ever comes to Stateside...on which is never. 
-> If ever I live in Euroland (or in PI), I'd like a 5-door M135i with LSD and a 6MT!
-> If ever I live in Euroland (or in PI), I'd like a 5-door M135i with LSD and a 6MT!
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Not sure you can get a Non M car with an LSD.-> Thats it, this will be my car along with my E46 if it ever comes to Stateside...on which is never.
-> If ever I live in Euroland (or in PI), I'd like a 5-door M135i with LSD and a 6MT!
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Hooray! It no longer looks hideous and it's now a car I'd be happy to own.
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M135i has been confirmed and will have slightly more power to Equal the M235i HP output.OMG MUCH WANT
Especially this 3-door..
Any word of 130i? or possibly even 135i?
Hopefully we See a 1M Hatch and with Chris Harris reviewing it ASAP.
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Sadly, no more naturally aspirated 6-in-lines for the 1-series.
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Because RWD > FWD
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Drive a 1 series you will learn all you need to know, 50/50 weight distribution and a Short wheelbase RWD.
I can bring up more benefits but the best answer is drive one first.
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M135i will continue, 1 series M isn't going to happen. There was talk of introducing a M?40i model for the 1er/2er, to make space for a standard ?35i model, but I think it was just rumours.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. is the 1 series beautiful... nope... is this ?
Not at all. Looks are subjective, as is "expensive", if you don't like the one series, and you cannot afford it, and you don't feel any difference with a RWD set-up... you are right... why would you? If you happen to like the way it looks, and the price is less of an issue, and you dislike some of the inherent characteristics of FWD, why not?
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Later this year, the F20 will undergo one last facelift which seems to be significantly more subtle than the 2015 LCI update.
But the big news is that the FWD successor has also been spied for the first time, sporting a much sleeker profile. Expect this to hit the streets in 2019.
Source: Motor1
But the big news is that the FWD successor has also been spied for the first time, sporting a much sleeker profile. Expect this to hit the streets in 2019.
Source: Motor1
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I'm in two minds about this.
On the one hand, basic 1-series, and even 3/4-series, are nothing special to drive. They barely feel rear-wheel drive in the first place and aren't even close in terms of fun or response to some of the decent front-drive stuff available at the moment.
However.
I'm more concerned that the brand's ethos is being diluted. However good (or bad) the application, making rear-wheel drive cars, and all the technical and emotional baggage that comes with that, is a statement of intent, and shows that the people developing the cars are enthusiasts even if the people buying them aren't. And it does result in inherently decent balance, nice proportions from a styling perspective, and the prospect of some fun if you're prepared to spend a bit extra on a decent engine.
There is obviously good business sense in building a front-drive 1-series, as most owners wouldn't know rear-drive if it gave them an accidental spike of oversteer on an icy roundabout, and it'll be cheaper to build for BMW, which is good for profits.
But it does raise the threshold for access to the kind of models that rear-drive gives access too, like the M140i, which are actually jolly good fun and fairly unique in offering the experience they do for the price they do. A front-drive M140i might be excellent - BMW makes MINIs of course, and MINIs handle pretty well - but I actually doubt BMW's ability to make a front-drive hot hatch as good as say, Volkswagen can. Or Honda, or Renault, or a bunch of other brands they never really had to compete with before because they were the one company sticking with rear-drive...
