BMW M4 Coupe Super Lap
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- Dave_Panic
I think that many people (including myself) don't like SRF because it's supernatural. It's like the magic finger of god pushing your car back in line and has no basis in reality. TC, ABS and stability control are cool as they actually exist. SRF is pure fantasy. Each to their own though IMO.
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- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
- CargoRatt
Had a good day today, improved to 2'08.920
I don't give a rats whether SRF is forced on or whether it is voluntary, like in the current race. I'll just do my best with what is available to me.
And many complain about it but still use it to better their time. Hypocritical? At the end of the day all that really matters is ones personal best time.
The main reason I think it should be optional is so that newer players will be able to enjoy their racing experience more and be able to gold their races and win some more bucks to buy cars and equipment etc.
And many complain about it but still use it to better their time. Hypocritical? At the end of the day all that really matters is ones personal best time.
The main reason I think it should be optional is so that newer players will be able to enjoy their racing experience more and be able to gold their races and win some more bucks to buy cars and equipment etc.
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- adstomko
It depresses meWatch AMO's replay
After racing against him on other racing games, he makes me jealous of his speed!
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- New Zealand
It depresses me
Haha tell me about it! I thought I was milking the M4 for speed during my runs yesterday then I had to go and have a look at his replay. Still have a week left before this TT ends though so surely there's a bit more time to find.
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- RavingBonkers
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- DaveTheStalker
Yea, I only did two laps, got Bronze and quit because of a sticky brake pedal. You must feel proud.
Edit: Well look at that, double post.
A week later your 10 seconds below the gold time!!! You're a mad man!!!!! That car is stupid unruly, a real patience tester!
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- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
- CargoRatt
Ha, ha, thanks Dave, I'll take that as a compliment.
By nature, I'm a peaceful man, but the minute I sit down in my Playseat, I become a man possessed. Nothing matters but knocking the time off the clock. 
Thanks again for noticing my persistence. 
EDIT: Knocked some more time off, down to 2'08.653.
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- TRL_Importlife
Put in a few laps I'm down to a 2:08.1xx
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- GTP_Stotty
Sorry Dalone, but can't agree on this.
It's supposed to be a realistic driving game, SRF makes the cars handling and grip completely unrealistic.
Each generation of GT gets consistently dummed down to allow everyone the opportunity to 'get the gold'... just look at the state of the licenses in the game - a 5 year old could get gold in GT6.
If people have to feel they are good enough to get gold just set the pass times higher. At least give those that are interested in the most realistic physics the game can offer to have a proper competition.
If it carries on like this PD may as well just abolish bronze and silver and just have 1 'pass' time.
I take your point, which is a valid one, however I expect that out of all those new players who enjoy their 'driving experience' here there will always emerge some who, after they have gained enough experience, want a more realistic challenge.
These people are the ones we are currently race against and are the ones we will be racing against in the future. But I wonder if they would have continued on had their initial 'driving experience' been just too bloody hard and not as much fun as they expected it would have been.
Anyway, I liked GT5 where the TT's were usually no SRF and the other races mostly just good fun or a vehicle to add some dollars to the bank balance.
It is early days here in GT6 and I fully expect things will change as we go along.
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eclipsee
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- eclipsi_RC
I'm sorry to poke my nose here
, SRF is as unrealistic as Active Steering :ron: , if I was PD I would abolish SRF and AS, I've no problems if some people use them though.BTW, if this is supposed to be a realistic driving game I wonder why we can use TCS and ABS in old muscle cars, these aids should be forced off when using this kind of cars, just an example of the self called "real driving simulator".
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- TRL_CBASTJAN
I think having the SRF, ABS, and even Active steering able for the cars is fair.
It is a great opportunity for eveybody to go fast, specially for those who don't spend many hours on this game.
But Why not make two time trials with the same car and track, one with all aids avaible and one without.
It is a great opportunity for eveybody to go fast, specially for those who don't spend many hours on this game.
But Why not make two time trials with the same car and track, one with all aids avaible and one without.
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- GTP_Stotty
Which is all fine, but just set the gold time low enough for them to earn the credits... most of the GT5 seasonal gold times were beatable by c.10s, with no SRF, so that should be fine for everyone who plays the game.
I'm sorry to poke my nose here
BTW, if this is supposed to be a realistic driving game I wonder why we can use TCS and ABS in old muscle cars, these aids should be forced off when using this kind of cars, just an example of the self called "real driving simulator".
No apologies necessary, Ramon 👍 :ron:
Some aids are part of helping make the lack of real driving sensations more manageable, and don't necessarily affect your ability to compete - the fastest guys in GT5 didn't always use AS for example, and TC almost always makes you slower.
But SRF completely changes the physics, and the time difference between having it on and off is huge.
I haven't tried AS in GT6 yet, so not sure if it works as in GT5, but no ABS is much more manageable in GT6, and I've run it at 0 for most of career mode 👍
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Captain obvious here, even if I ran SRF ON all the time, I'd still never catch the fast guys. I put in three hours a night(as much as I'm able with my schedule) and well, there really is no excuse. Either you(we) place number one or go home.
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- CargoRatt
And I'm getting damn tired of going home. One of these days, I'm going to surprise you guys as I'll be the one sending everyone else home.
And I'm getting damn tired of going home. One of these days, I'm going to surprise you guys as I'll be the one sending everyone else home.
Sounds like a plan, Cargo, good luck with it mate.
Which is all fine, but just set the gold time low enough for them to earn the credits... most of the GT5 seasonal gold times were beatable by c.10s, with no SRF, so that should be fine for everyone who plays the game.
No apologies necessary, Ramon 👍 :ron:
Some aids are part of helping :tup:make the lack of real driving sensations more manageable, and don't necessarily affect your ability to compete - the fastest guys in GT5 didn't always use AS for example, and TC almost always makes you slower.
But SRF completely changes the physics, and the time difference between having it on and off is huge.
I haven't tried AS in GT6 yet, so not sure if it works as in GT5, but no ABS is much more manageable in GT6, and I've run it at 0 for most of career mode
Looking through the threads and posts since GT6 started I have many times seen players say they cannot get gold. Now they may be brand newies or just those who don't have a clue, but it remains that many struggle.
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- Wasilla, AK
I like the car, but my time is pathetic... muddling around in the low 2:18's
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- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
- CargoRatt
Thanks Dalone, really appreciate the well wishes.
Yeah, all good mate. I noticed yesterday that the car sound has improved drastically. Today I was catching up on some earlier races and had the TV volume set at the usual 20 and it was fine for racing. Previously I needed the volume up over 50 when playing just to be able to hear the exhaust to know when to change gear.
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- eclipsi_RC
Of course any use of aids is fair, nobody should tell us the way we want to play.
Another thing is what is realistic or not, if we consider GT a realistic videogame, automatic transmission cars shouldn't have a manual transmission option and viceversa.
Some time ago I saw Kaz said he would like to see GT as an encyclopedia of cars among other things, not only museum cards make an encyclopedia in a "real driving simulator", they should handle as their real counterparts and with its particular characteristics, to be able to switch on TCS, ASM, AS, ABS, SRF in a Citroën 2CV is a laugh regarding reality, Kaz loves those oldies but he fails epically when trying to bring them in game as we can switch on those aids, wasn't he a perfectionist? clearly not. It's an easy fix but we still have this fault since 15 years ago, and still counting.
How on earth can I call GT a simulator when I see this kind of things?
Don't get me wrong, I love GT, and it's the videogame where I have more fun even with its flaws, it was just an educated complaint.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, one day I'll make a wall text.
It's not needed really, just making a classifiable leader board by aids would make the trick, I don't expect it any soon though, PD is always busy with more important things like missions on the moon or things like that, hey, they're cool but c'mon Kaz, focus please! focus! fix basic things first!.
I know 👍, I just wanted to be polite.StottyNo apologies necessary, Ramon 👍 :ron:
If the fastest guys always would use AS, they would achieve their goal in less time, you can bet all your money there and I know you know that, why do you think I was 1st world ranking along the last week of the GTA 2012 (online stage)? I know where are my flaws, using AS in GTA 2012 helped me to almost achieve my dream, but you know what, if I would have finished first I could have known I achieved nothing because the second wasn't using AS and I was using an aid and we weren't competing in the same conditions.Stotty
You're right there, TC "almost always" makes you slower.
Absolutely agree.Stotty
I haven't tried ABS off in GT6 yet, if it's a little better than in GT5 it will be a great step forward, ABS off in GT5 was a nightmare.Stotty
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