BMW M4 Safety Car Coming To GT6

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A car we already have, but with lights on top. And people are excited about this because? We already have a pace car. It could have been premiumized, or better yet left alone. Any car can serve as a pace car. Does it really matter if it has a premium interior? The only cool thing I saw is the unlocking of the M4 which for some inexplicable reason was not done from the start.

I would bet BMW as the main reason. After all, PD can't allow us to modify licensed cars without the manufacterer's consent and its likely BMW didn't want its new car modified in anyway yet.
 
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Because it's the M performance package version, highlighted several times.

Well then the lights better be optional as has been suggested, because it would look pretty silly if people are racing a pace car. For that matter, it's still going to look odd with that pace car paint job unless it is just one of the available liveries on the car.

We have an outdated safety car. One of the big issues with GT6 is a lack of current cars.

Hold on. How can a pace car be outdated? Yes our current one is a standard model, if that's what you mean, but who on Earth pays that much attention to the pace car to warrant making a whole new one? PD could have easily premiumized the one we have. I'm all for simulating as much as possible, but can't we focus on the racing first before worrying about whether the pace car is a premium model? To be fair, this part of the argument falls away if the lights and livery are indeed optional.

Bit like saying any supercar can "serve" as a GT3 car. It's fine if you have an imagination, but in the end you'd take the real thing.

Apples to oranges. GT3 cars have set rules and regulations. Pace cars merely need to be able to safely maintain pace speed. Flashing lights and a livery are not required to fulfill the role, but are added safety features.

Would you rather PD be adding more standards?

Of course not. I would rather PD deliver on the features they advertised for GT6 at release, or at least tell us if they have been abandoned in favor of GT7.

Because BMW. Look back to the C7 in GT5.

Fair enough, I guess.
 
I would bet BMW as the main reason. After all, PD can't allow us to modify licensed cars without the manufacterer's consent and its likely BMW didn't want its new car modified in anyway yet.
Are you sure ? Because I don't think so, if it's the same crap they told us for damages ? In a recent interview I think it was Asseto Corsa/Pcars (can't find it), the gentleman was saying that they don't really have manufacturers restrictions and was able to damage the car as they want and refer it to GT.
I think for modifications it's the same I presume (of course manufacturers will not allow to swap a engine from another car manufacturer in their car).
 
Are you sure ? Because I don't think so, if it's the same crap they told us for damages ? In a recent interview I think it was Asseto Corsa/Pcars (can't find it), the gentleman was saying that they don't really have manufacturers restrictions and was able to damage the car as they want and refer it to GT.
I think for modifications it's the same I presume.

PD hasn't said anything about that so no its not the same issue as damage. No developer can make cars modifiable unless the Car manufacterers allow it.
 
Are you sure ? Because I don't think so, if it's the same crap they told us for damages ? In a recent interview I think it was Asseto Corsa/Pcars (can't find it), the gentleman was saying that they don't really have manufacturers restrictions and was able to damage the car as they want and refer it to GT.
I think for modifications it's the same I presume (of course manufacturers will not allow to swap a engine from another car manufacturer in their car).
It was on insidesimracing in an interview with the guy from ac, And im not buying that not all games play by the rules b.s. PD just want us to have the game the way they like it which ususlly means doing the minimum amount they can get away with
 
Again, this isn't related to Damage issue (why was this even brought up?) and it isn't something PD said. This was related to car modification.
 
In all honesty, could not careless about a safety car, GT6 has not been in my mind in months, have not touched it at all, so many things I hate about it. Have very little confident with GT7 with the likes of the other car games coming to the PS4. Played my cousins PS4 "Driveclub" and spent 3/4 hours just playing and admiring the graphics, the sounds and the Start grid! And not flipping chasing a rabbit for like 5 laps, that is no fun at all. Did n ot enjoy GT6 when I bought it and still don't enjoy it.
What ever PD are going to do with GT6 in terms of updates or with GT7, I am not interested, especially with "Standard cars" that are here to stay with us even on next gen console is laughable.
That is my two cents.
 
Again, this isn't related to Damage issue (why was this even brought up?) and it isn't something PD said. This was related to car modification.
Yes it was I was related the example of damages to modifications and assuming it was the same.
 
Do you have any sources ?

Seriously? You are asking for sources to prove that Manufacterers have to allow Devs to allow modification to cars? You can't honestly tell me that you really believe Developers can just do what the hell ever customizations they want without the Manufacterers approval?

Yes it was I was related the example of damages to modifications and assuming it was the same.

And why was it necessary when that was what PD said that about damage, not about Modifications?
 
Seriously? You are asking for sources to prove that Manufacterers have to allow Devs to allow modification to cars? You can't honestly tell me that you really believe Developers can just do what the hell ever customizations they want without the Manufacterers approval?


Are you assuming so ?
And why was it necessary when that was what PD said that about damage, not about Modifications?
Within reason I'm assuming yes they can do what they want regarding modifications. Other developers seem to don't have this issue, why PD?
 
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About the lights, @Jordan posted an update in the M4 blog thread, stating PD are at SEMA also athering more data from the M4 Pace Car to do the lights(to complete the rendering).
 
@Davoxx the manufacturers have the final say.

The R35 GT-Rs in Grid (both road and Super GT versions) are completely uncustomisable. Codemasters have verified this on their sites, in their forums and FAQs.

In contrast, when the SRT Viper was released early in Forza 4, it was customisable in every way.
 
@Davoxx the manufacturers have the final say.

The R35 GT-Rs in Grid (both road and Super GT versions) are completely uncustomisable. Codemasters have verified this on their sites, in their forums and FAQs.

In contrast, when the SRT Viper was released early in Forza 4, it was customisable in every way.
The GT6 Viper also has a lot of custom parts available.
 
@Davoxx the manufacturers have the final say.

The R35 GT-Rs in Grid (both road and Super GT versions) are completely uncustomisable. Codemasters have verified this on their sites, in their forums and FAQs.

In contrast, when the SRT Viper was released early in Forza 4, it was customisable in every way.
I was assuming this because even in Forza you can customize a Rolls Royce and if there is* only one manufacturer who will not allow modifications it was this one. In this case regarding the M4 horizon 2 have it and you can modify it. Good to know about the GTR and grid thanx.
 
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The GT6 Viper also has a lot of custom parts available.

This is the funny part, the R35s (in every other game which features customisation) are always heavily modifiable, particularly in Forza (has some of the most body kits of any car).

Another point is that all other Nissans in Grid are fully modifiable.

They for whatever reason don't trust Codies with the GT-R :lol:
 
This is the funny part, the R35s (in every other game which features customisation) are always heavily modifiable, particularly in Forza (has some of the most body kits of any car).

Another point is that all other Nissans in Grid are fully modifiable.

They for whatever reason don't trust Codies with the GT-R :lol:
Well the recently released GT-R Nismo isn't fully custom, as you can't paint it or stick numbers on it
 
It was on insidesimracing in an interview with the guy from ac, And im not buying that not all games play by the rules b.s. PD just want us to have the game the way they like it which ususlly means doing the minimum amount they can get away with
Around 5:40 the question is asked about damage and Stefano says they have full damage and that it's an urban myth [that manufacturers are picky about their cars getting damaged] and other companies use that as an excuse [for not having damage]. He points out that their contract does specify no blood and guts but absolutely nothing about not being allowed to damage the cars. You have to think if it's not a limitation for them, one of the smallest developers in the sim market, anyone else can have the same contractual conditions.

 
Even if you're not an AC person, you might want to watch that video. It's the kind of interviews we need. Direct questions with direct answers and explanations.
Something that PD has no clue about..... Soon should be trademarked by them, as they answer questions without care, or responsibility for what little they do say.
Yet you attacked the post, seemingly indicating because of what I said.
Again, That's Not The Point...

Again, I'm not saying that people should be happy they only have to wait this long (which is what you appeared to take issue with)
Not only this long, but any length of time without a detailed answer as to when we can expect such content added. They addressed themselves that communication is not their best yet they seem they don't want to start at all.

but for some reason its been somehow interpreted that I'm telling someone they should by happy just to wait this long when its nothing more.
:banghead: That's. Not. The. Point.

It's PD's problem(s) which they fail to address. I used your post as an example of the time. The post was not directed toward you, but toward PD in the case any time waited on with such poor communication they have is unacceptable.
 
We can add exhaust manifold, cat and intake as well as decrease power and add weight on the M4. I think all we could do to the Sting Ray was change oil. That's modifying the vehicle. If we are making the M4 heavier than it is, would BMW want that? Do they care we can alter the balance of their newest M car? I don't know how it works as far as what manufacturers care to see happen with their cars in games.
 
Something that PD has no clue about..... Soon should be trademarked by them, as they answer questions without care, or responsibility for what little they do say.

Again, That's Not The Point...


Not only this long, but any length of time without a detailed answer as to when we can expect such content added. They addressed themselves that communication is not their best yet they seem they don't want to start at all.


:banghead: That's. Not. The. Point.

It's PD's problem(s) which they fail to address. I used your post as an example of the time. The post was not directed toward you, but toward PD in the case any time waited on with such poor communication they have is unacceptable.


Why was my post even used as the example when it was nothing more then a objective response? All I'm saying is the tone in your post seems like you are just in a outright rage and the way you responded seemed more like you were directing your response at me for what I said then your point about how we shouldn't have to wait (which you didn't make clear until I responded). I know your point is we shouldn't have to wait but you used an out of leftfield post (where all I said was how waiting for three months is nothing compared to the 5 years we had to wait) just to rant about waiting. If you would've just stopped after saying for example, We shouldn't have to wait all", I wouldn't have even responded but you turned it into this massive rant (which just confused me and left me thinking "what in the world did I do to piss him off?")Just calm down, I got your point (which I already said multiple times).

Now I'd like to just have this conversation ended now and done so this can go back on topic as its already was off.
 
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Why was my post even used as the example when it was nothing more then a objective response? All I'm saying is the tone in your post seems like you are just in a outright rage and the way you responded seemed more like you were directing your response at me for what I said then your point about how we shouldn't have to wait (which you didn't make clear until I responded). I know your point is we shouldn't have to wait but you used an out of leftfield post (where all I said was how waiting for three months is nothing compared to the 5 years we had to wait) just to rant about waiting. If you would've just stopped after saying for example, We shouldn't have to wait all", I wouldn't have even responded but you turned it into this massive rant (which just confused me and left me thinking "what in the world did I do to piss him off?")Just calm down, I got your point (which I already said multiple times).

Now I'd like to just have this conversation ended now and done so this can go back on topic as its already was off.
Sure...


I still think this M4 would be best to introduce a livery editor though..
 
More pictures of the real car.
Source: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1054743

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Edit: it'll be interesting to see how PD manages to animate the lights since it has three different colours. Especially for the trackside reflections. The GT-R has only one colour. Also hope they upgrade the GT-R with on/off switch for the lights, if possible.
 
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