Britain - The Official Thread

[Liquid]

Yeah, if I want kinky sex equipment B&f'ingQ is the first place I'd go to.

- One shovel
- One rope
- One bag of lime

 

[Robin]

Yeah, if I want kinky sex equipment B&f'ingQ is the first place I'd go to.

I'm pretty sure you can't buy rope, duct tape and zip ties at Ann Summers

 

[ExigeEvan]

I'm pretty sure you can't buy rope, duct tape and zip ties at Ann Summers

You can definitely buy rope...

*WARNING. The below link is for an extremely tacky shop that sells cheap underwear and terrible fancy dress*
http://www.annsummers.com/p/black-rope-5-metres/03bocuas1154006

[EDIT]
And Tape...
http://www.annsummers.com/p/black-tape/03bocuas1134006

 

[Robin]

Not the industrial stuff

 

[Submerged]

Hm, came across this article:

Smoking ban in cars with children

I can see where they are coming from.

However, it comes against the expectation of privacy and also private property being used on public roadways.

Additionally, not entirely sure what the legal view is on e-cigs that could be modified to be a proper cigarette.

Thoughts?

 

[Johnnypenso]

Hm, came across this article:

Smoking ban in cars with children

I can see where they are coming from.

However, it comes against the expectation of privacy and also private property being used on public roadways.

Additionally, not entirely sure what the legal view is on e-cigs that could be modified to be a proper cigarette.

Thoughts?

Been that way here for 5 or 6 years. Much like laws against texting and driving, I'm not sure if anyone pays any attention to it. If one believes second hand smoke can lead to negative health effects it makes some sense. Of course it would also make sense to ban smoking in homes for the same reason or altogether for that matter, but logic doesn't always play a role in crafting legislation.

 

[Lissa]

Hm, came across this article:

Smoking ban in cars with children

I can see where they are coming from.

However, it comes against the expectation of privacy and also private property being used on public roadways.

Additionally, not entirely sure what the legal view is on e-cigs that could be modified to be a proper cigarette.

Thoughts?

I'm a smoker, but I don't need legislation to order me not to smoke around young children. On the rare occasion that we have children visiting our home, I will go outside to smoke.

I really don't see how this will be enforceable anyway. Seeing any traffic police is rare these days, and on any day out in the car we'll see dozens of people still happily using their mobiles while driving. There is just no fear of being caught.

 

[KSaiyu]

Say it isn't so!

Labour council bans PORK from primary schools claiming it is too expensive to monitor diets of Islamic and Jewish pupils

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-PORK-primary-school-menus.html#ixzz3RdAFSBzD

 

[Carbonox]

Labour, you never disappoint me.

 

[KSaiyu]

I love how we put in "Jewish pupils" to make ourselves feel better. Second thoughts no I don't, they get enough of a hard time already.

 

[Lizard]

I do love the daily fail.

In fact the council hasn't banned it. It is just the schools chose not to serve it. If the schools want to serve it they can.

http://labourlist.org/2015/02/has-a-labour-council-banned-pork-in-schools-er-no/

 

[KSaiyu]

The headline is wrong but the end result is the same (I didn't use The Times as it is behind a paywall). It is off the menu because of state requirements to check dietary requirements of pupils, which has meant state schools have chosen to ignore giving the option of pork for the appeasement of a minority. Win win for red tape and everyone except the poor buggers who don't have an option of bacon and sausages.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I do love the daily fail.

In fact the council hasn't banned it. It is just the schools chose not to serve it. If the schools want to serve it they can.

http://labourlist.org/2015/02/has-a-labour-council-banned-pork-in-schools-er-no/

Let's just decide not to serve it is in effect a ban, same result, without having to defend yourself about making a decision to outright ban it.

 

[Touring Mars]

Former TV weatherman Fred Talbot has been found guilty of assaulting young boys. When interviewed by the police, they showed him a diary that they alleged was his and that contained revealing comments about inappropriate behaviour with "kids". Talbot repeatedly refused to confirm that the diary was his, offering only "No comment." when asked about it. Unfortunately, when the police showed him one particular page, Talbot said 'God, my writing's dreadful!'... oops.

 

[Liquid]

Talbot repeatedly refused to confirm that the diary was his, offering only "No comment." when asked about it. Unfortunately, when the police showed him one particular page, Talbot said 'God, my writing's dreadful!'... oops.

and

Also 🤬 you Fred Talbot and the rest of this dreadful Who's Next? of abusive media personalities.

 

[axletramp]

Former TV weatherman Fred Talbot has been found guilty of assaulting young boys. When interviewed by the police, they showed him a diary that they alleged was his and that contained revealing comments about inappropriate behaviour with "kids". Talbot repeatedly refused to confirm that the diary was his, offering only "No comment." when asked about it. Unfortunately, when the police showed him one particular page, Talbot said 'God, my writing's dreadful!'... oops.

Fred's outlook: Lots of desperately unpleasant showers...

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I don't see how the pork thing is an issue. Makes perfect sense to me. Some students can't eat pork, so why bother having an alternative when you can just have everyone eat the same thing and make it a lot easier? What's the big deal?

 

[KSaiyu]

I don't see how the pork thing is an issue. Makes perfect sense to me. Some students can't eat pork, so why bother having an alternative when you can just have everyone eat the same thing and make it a lot easier? What's the big deal?

The big deal is you punish everyone's freedom for a minority. It's like saying 10% of your pupil cohort are fat and their families are against them doing Physical Education, and we can't be bothered to waste budget providing for the rest of the pupils so we will take the easy option and cut PE for everyone.

What SHOULD have happened is the muslim parents be told to provide their own meals for their children, however a disproportionate amount qualify for free school meals so the prerogative is on the schools to provide meals for the children. Add in Clegg's ludicrous policy of every child having a free school meal and schools are taking the disastrous decision of catering to the vocal minority whilst leaving the silent majority in the lurch.

It really is hard to express how much some areas of London are changing/have changed unless you've lived all your life in them.

 

[TheCracker]

They probably don't serve lobster either - but i doubt thats in case some pupils have a shellfish allergy.

I don't see schools avoiding pork as such an issue. Makes total sense if you have a substantial amount of pupils who can't eat it. There are plenty of other foods they can provide.

If parents really need to get a daily quota of pork-products down their offsprings throats, they should give them a porcine-rich packed lunch.

 

[KSaiyu]

If parents really need to get a daily quota of pork-products down their offsprings throats, they should give them a porcine-rich packed lunch.

It should be the other way around, as I edited in above. I now cannot go to a non-halal butcher in my area, all my food in the local university (which I'm thankfully not a student of) is halal meat only and my freedom to buy a Charlie Hebdo magazine can lead to monitoring by the police force.

This creeping suffocation of freedom is disturbing, although you could say I have the freedom to just leave. I'll also say that I work in Slough, and the thought of my hospital banning our caterers providing pork to every patient on the grounds of our sizeable ethnic population is damn frightening.

 

[TheCracker]

It's hardly crushing someone's civil liberties by denying them pork for five of their probable 21 weekly meals.

 

[KSaiyu]

It's not, but it's unfair for the majority and sets a crappy precedent.

Would you believe me if I said our own ex Lord Chief Justice has suggested cartoonists shouldn't offend muslims?

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/law/article4350117.ece

 

[Carbonox]

What I don't understand is why does multiculturalism need to act as if it were the new State Religion, and why do people insist on either A) the majority playing by the minority's rules or B) different groups playing with different rules, even though everyone's supposed to be equal in front of the law?

 

[Famine]

What I don't understand is why does multiculturalism need to act as if it were the new State Religion, and why do people insist on either A) the majority playing by the minority's rules or B) different groups playing with different rules, even though everyone's supposed to be equal in front of the law?

Your "A" and "B" aren't multiculturalism - which is an ethos of allowing minority groups to maintain cultural identity while integrating into the larger population - so as a whole your post makes no sense. Could you rephrase?

 

[Carbonox]

Your "A" and "B" aren't multiculturalism - which is an ethos of allowing minority groups to maintain cultural identity while integrating into the larger population - so as a whole your post makes no sense. Could you rephrase?

Positive discrimination would sound rather fitting.

 

[KSaiyu]

Integration. That is the key word. If you bend the "rules" to favour one minority imagine how the others/the majority will feel.

 

[Famine]

Positive discrimination would sound rather fitting.

That's a hell of a rephrase - three lines to six words.

What do you mean? Positive discrimination is a state religion?

 

[Beeblebrox237]

So let me get this straight: you're saying that a school doesn't have the right to choose to what meat they serve for lunch?

 

[Carbonox]

That's a hell of a rephrase - three lines to six words.

What do you mean? Positive discrimination is a state religion?

More like, there are people who apply positive discrimination in order to appease minorities, presenting it as proper multiculturalism.

 

[KSaiyu]

So let me get this straight: you're saying that a school doesn't have the right to choose to what meat they serve for lunch?

Oh yes, of course they do! Just like I have the right to racially and sexually verbally abuse everyone I come across in the street as long as I don't incite violence. Would you say it's right for me to use/abuse that right?

Let's imagine what Joe public is thinking.

Gee my son can't have his favourite meal of sausages and mash on Thursday anymore. Should I blame the school for ignoring my concerns (right) or those dark people who keep themselves to themselves with their funny demands (wrong but easier).

The more you try and manufacture multiculturalism, the worse it gets for everyone.