Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
I honestly don't really mind nor care about Hamilton's behaviour. His lifestyle clearly has no bearing whatsoever on his talent (arguably, since Wolff let him off the leash a bit in the last few years rather than reining him in, he's performed better as a driver), his actions are no more or less unbalanced or unbelievable than any other celebrity/athlete/driver (and again, he has more talent than most to justify his position as such), and on the occasion he makes a gaffe (the "slums" comment seemed more like a figure of speech in context, and one he immediately tried to correct to avoid misinterpretation) he's hardly unique in that respect.

Frequently I see comments from people on Twitter or elsewhere along the lines of the British driver we want is a James Hunt-type, who poses for photos with topless girls, and drinks, and punches people, and smokes himself to an early grave. That's better than a guy sponsored by fashion brands and wants to produce hip-hop records, I guess. Not sure it really matters - the guy's the best in the world at his job, he's enjoying his success in a way he sees fit, and he's not harming anyone doing so.
 
Sometimes this parliament confuses me.

Corbyn is accused of mouthing 'stupid woman' at May.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46619689

Fair enough, what confuses me is multiple Conservatives accusing the speaker of Labour favouritism for requesting time to review the situation as he did not see it. The Tories seem to forget that Bercow was, and should he stop being speaker, will return to being, a Conservative.

Personally I think Bercow does a great job as speaker.


Edit I just learned speakers become lords upon retirement and by custom sit on the cross benches so wouldn't return to being a Tory. However the point still stands that if he is sympathetic to anyone it would be the Tories. However I think he does a good job of being neutral as required by the position.
 
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Sometimes this parliament confuses me.

Corbyn is accused of mouthing 'stupid woman' at May.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46619689

Fair enough, what confuses me is multiple Conservatives accusing the speaker of Labour favouritism for requesting time to review the situation as he did not see it. The Tories seem to forget that Bercow was, and should he stop being speaker, will return to being, a Conservative.

Personally I think Bercow does a great job as speaker.


Edit I just learned speakers become lords upon retirement and by custom sit on the cross benches so wouldn't return to being a Tory. However the point still stands that if he is sympathetic to anyone it would be the Tories. However I think he does a good job of being neutral as required by the position.
How amusing that he sends his spokesperson out there to say that he said "stupid people" instead of stupid woman, as if calling multiple people stupid is better than calling an individual person stupid.
 
They showed the footage on the news, it doesn't take a expert lip reader to see that he did indeed say "Stupid Woman". They all at some point have made this gaffe, it's up there with Cameron's "Calm Down Dear" and Brown's "Bigoted Woman".
 
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The absolute state of British politics. One of the most important times in the history of the UK and this is what they are arguing about. It couldn't be more playground if it tried.
 
More importantly, a Labour MP in a seat with a very narrow margin (607 votes) has just been convicted of perverting the course of justice. Her car was caught speeding and she claimed it was being driven by a man for whom they gave fake contact details and who was in Russia at the time of the offence.

Sentencing won't take place for a while yet. Nor, I suspect, will her resignation.
 
More importantly, a Labour MP in a seat with a very narrow margin (607 votes) has just been convicted of perverting the course of justice. Her car was caught speeding and she claimed it was being driven by a man for whom they gave fake contact details and who was in Russia at the time of the offence.

Sentencing won't take place for a while yet. Nor, I suspect, will her resignation.
From the BBC:
A Labour Party spokesman said she had been "administratively suspended" and called for her to resign.

He added: "The Labour Party is deeply disappointed in Fiona Onasanya's behaviour. It falls well below what is expected of politicians. She should now resign."
 
The absolute state of British politics. One of the most important times in the history of the UK and this is what they are arguing about. It couldn't be more playground if it tried.
Well of course, heaven forbid the media actually analyse the policies they put in place.
 
Indeed. Whether she will or not remains to be seen...
I'm thinking not.

Jeremy Corbyn:

Obviously, she is not going to remain as the member of parliament because she been found guilty in a court of law.
Fiona Onasanya:
I campaigned for justice and for the interests of ordinary people throughout my entire working life to date.

Regardless of what you believe or suspect, the fact remains that I, Fiona, sought to be the choice and voice of change – but this may now take a different path. More than ever before, I am asking that you commit time in prayer for my family.

In times like these, the natural inclination of believers is to ask God: why? I personally do not, because in my experience the answers are usually far above and beyond my reach. What I do know is that I am in good biblical company, along with Joseph, Moses, Daniel and his three Hebrew friends, who were each found guilty by the courts of their day.

While God did not save them from a guilty verdict, he did save them in it and ensured that their greatest days of impact were on the other side of a guilty verdict. Of course this is equally true of Christ, who was accused and convicted by the courts of his day and yet this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter in his story
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The absolute state of British politics. One of the most important times in the history of the UK and this is what they are arguing about. It couldn't be more playground if it tried.
Actually Corbyn said it himself. The media are so fussed about this but don't care that a poor homeless guy died outside parliament. Policies can help or hurt that homeless guy and thus should be analysed, being outraged over something said doesn't do anything.
 
RIP Tom Leonard, a genius poet :(

Tom Leonard - The Six o'Clock News
Six o'Clock News

this is thi
six a clock
news thi
man said n
thi reason
a talk wia
BBC accent
iz coz yi
widny wahnt
mi ti talk
aboot thi
trooth wia
voice lik
wanna yoo
scruff. if
a toktaboot
thi trooth
lik wanna yoo
scruff yi
widny thingk
it wuz troo.
jist wanna yoo
scruff tokn.
thirza right
way ti spell
ana right way
to tok it. this
is me tokn yir
right way a
spellin. this
is ma trooth.
yooz doant no
thi trooth
yirsellz cawz
yi canny talk
right. this is
the six a clock
nyooz. belt up.
 
Really? Looks like he said 'people' to me :odd:

For me it was the shape of his mouth at the start doing 'Wooo' which is more of a rounded O shape rather than 'Peee' where you purse your lips together at the start because its a higher pitch.
 
All the furore was because it exactly looks like he said it. If it was so clear cut that he didn't say it none of this would have all kicked off.
If it "exactly looked" like he said it then there would be no controversy. However, contrary to what you said earlier, it sounds like it helps if one is a lip reading expert before he or she weighs in on the debate.

More to the point it seems like a bit of a smokescreen to divert from more important issues such as whether we should be wearing our pants at halfmast to commemorate Lord Ashdown's passing.
 
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