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[Dotini]

Ukraine attacks inside Russia may lead to dangerous escalation of war

Reported attacks by Ukraine in Russia could be used by Moscow to portray Ukraine as the aggressor and strengthen the case for mass mobilization.

www.newsweek.com

WORLD

Ukraine Attacks Inside Russia May Lead to Dangerous Escalation of War​

BY BRENDAN COLE ON 4/30/22 AT 12:37 PM EDT


A British minister's support for Ukraine's right to attack targets in Russia has been condemned by Moscow and raised speculation over what Vladimir Putinmight do if the war spilled over the border.

U.K. Armed Forces Minister James Heappey said it was "completely legitimate" for Ukraine to hit logistical targets in Russia, prompting its Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova to ask whether Moscow could do the same to NATO countries supplying arms to Kyiv.

"London's direct provocation" Zakharova warned, "will immediately lead to our proportional response."

Heappey's comments come as Russian regions close to Ukraine's border reported unexplained explosions at military and industrial sites.

They point to a possible shadow war for Ukraine beyond enemy lines that Kyiv is tight-lipped about, but which experts have told Newsweek could be used by Moscow to justify mass mobilization of the Russian population.

Russian air defenses reportedly fended off an attack on a military airbase in the Voronezh region on Wednesday and a small reconnaissance drone was reportedly shot down over the city around 140 miles inside the border with Ukraine.

Explosions were heard in Kursk, with video posted on social media purportedly showing the blasts. Also, two oil depots in the south-western city of Bryansk are believed to have been hit by Ukrainian missiles on Monday, while an ammunition depot caught fire near the village of Staraya Nelidovka in the Belgorod region.

"Ukrainians are viewing logistical targets inside Russia, energy targets, ammunition depots and other infrastructure that is used for the war, as legitimate targets," said Samuel Ramani, associate fellow at the London think tank the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI).

 

[Liquid]

 

[TexRex]

 

[Famine]

NATO weapons and munitions are being used by your proxies and allies to reach targets deep into Russia.

[Citation needed]

Russian regions close to Ukraine's border reported unexplained explosions at military and industrial sites.

 

[Liquid]

All she was missing was the pitchfork and black aura.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Results from a snap poll of 1000 voters had Tugendhat the best performer of the debate with Sunak second.

 

[Dotini]

[Citation needed]

The provided media data and graphics indicate some of the several the targets hit were at least 60 to 140 miles miles deep into Russia.

Ukraine has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility for the attacks. "U.K. Armed Forces Minister James Heappey said it was "completely legitimate" for Ukraine to hit logistical targets in Russia."

 

[Famine]

The provided media data and graphics indicate some of the several the targets hit were at least 60 to 140 miles miles deep into Russia.

Ukraine has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility for the attacks. "U.K. Armed Forces Minister James Heappey said it was "completely legitimate" for Ukraine to hit logistical targets in Russia."

None of which - still - supports either your original ******** assertion or your subsequent ******** amendment to your ******** assertion.

If you'd bothered reading your own damn sources you wouldn't have made the ******** post you did, but here you are doubling down on a double-down on stuff you know is bollocks. Yet again.

 

[Liquid]

One of the best gimmick accounts I follow.

 

[Dotini]

One of two British men captured in Donetsk has reportedly died in custody.

Spoiler: 6 minute video

 

[TexRex]

One of the best gimmick accounts I follow.

I don't but if I could I would. I saw it retweeted just before I came here to post it and saw what you posted.

 

[Touring Mars]

Utterly pathetic, yet only one in a series of blatant attempts to literally look like Thatcher.

As for the Leadership debate on C4 tonight, there is not or ever was enough Triceratops dung on Earth to accurately describe it.

 

[UKMikey]

 

[Touring Mars]

Still think Tugendhat has no chance, especially now that he's revealed himself as the least incompetent of the whole sorry shower

 

[Roo]

Still think Tugendhat has no chance, especially now that he's revealed himself as the least incompetent of the whole sorry shower

Particularly as the only row that matters to the Conservatives is the fourth.

 

[Scaff]

Mordant's weird tweet and delete

 

[UKMikey]

I hadn't realised Truss had demonstrated hernia her near-slavish devotion to the Thatch aesthetic on several previous occasions.

 

[Touring Mars]

I hadn't realised Truss had demonstrated hernia her near-slavish devotion to the Thatch aesthetic on several previous occasions.

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Yep. The photos in Moscow in particular were obviously part of a future leadership run - pathetic and literally ridiculous in equal measure.

 

[merseyxshore]

I hadn't realised Truss had demonstrated hernia her near-slavish devotion to the Thatch aesthetic on several previous occasions.

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This makes me sick.

 

[Liquid]

If Thatcher was breast-fed on gin and tonic and home schooled, you'd get Liz Truss.

 

[UKMikey]

Yep. The photos in Moscow in particular were obviously part of a future leadership run - pathetic and literally ridiculous in equal measure.

Liz forgot or was unable to include Maggie's gaggle of admirers in the background of her own pic though. It's clear her photo ops were cynically staged to appeal to those of her admirers who have their heads firmly stuck in the past.

 

[Dotini]

Liz forgot or was unable to include Maggie's gaggle of admirers in the background of her own pic though. It's clear her photo ops were cynically staged to appeal to those of her admirers who have their heads firmly stuck in the past.

Perhaps Liz could recapitulate Maggie's successes, rescuing the nation from inflation and winning a foreign war?

 

[UKMikey]

rescuing the nation from inflation

I suspect Truss would have a difficult time pushing this misplaced bollocks on a nation already suffering from the economic effects of Brexit and the pandemic.

https://www.josharcher.uk/static/files/2013/sn00263.pdf

 

[sirjim73]

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Perhaps Liz could recapitulate Maggie's successes, rescuing the nation from inflation and winning a foreign war?

Recapitulate...? 🤔

 

[Dotini]

Recapitulate...? 🤔

Repeat. Do it again.

Reverse the outgoing tide of the economy. Achieve some semblance of honor and victory from the horror of Ukraine.

It ain't gonna be easy.

 

[UKMikey]

Tax and public spending cuts. That should see us through the worst of it. 🤔

Liz Truss: ‘I want the biggest change in economic policy for 30 years’

Frances, 16, and Liberty, 14, have taken to providing advice on the Foreign Secretary’s leadership campaign

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[Dotini]

Perhaps this should be in another thread, but we are hearing reports of 40 C temperatures in the UK and western France. Question: Does this have an adverse effect on agriculture, or a beneficial effect?

 

[PeterJB]

Perhaps this should be in another thread, but we are hearing reports of 40 C temperatures in the UK and western France. Question: Does this have an adverse effect on agriculture, or a beneficial effect?

It's only for two days so not really. It's expected that today and tomorrow we will see national temperature records broken, but it's gonna drop down again on Wednesday, and there should be some rain.

 

[TheCracker]

Perhaps this should be in another thread, but we are hearing reports of 40 C temperatures in the UK and western France. Question: Does this have an adverse effect on agriculture, or a beneficial effect?

A few hotter than normal days a year isn't going to make much difference, but as an increasing trend how can it not.

Maybe savy farmers should be putting some of their land aside to start cultivating vines.


Our homes are designed to retain as much heat as possible - two layers of stone or brick sandwiching cavity insulation, double or triple glazed windows, loft insulation, central heating etc. All we ever really needed to do in the past on those rare hot days was open a few windows. That just doesn't cut it when it gets over 30 degrees. It's due to be 41 in Sheffield tomorrow with virtually no breeze.

We bought a portible AC unit last summer which is effective, but with energy prices as high as they are, its just not feasable to run it that all the time.

 

[Dotini]

Tax and public spending cuts. That should see us through the worst of it. 🤔

Liz Truss: ‘I want the biggest change in economic policy for 30 years’

Frances, 16, and Liberty, 14, have taken to providing advice on the Foreign Secretary’s leadership campaign

web.archive.org

When suffering from inflation, the accepted nostrum is to increase interest rates. To reduce borrowing and maintain spending, taxes must be raised.