Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
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Neither Murray nor Fry are nonces, nor have they ever been fingered as being so.

Yew Tree has three focuses - Savile; Savile and others; others. The middle one, which mainly involves celebrities, is squarely on the BBC's interactions with the music industry - radio hosts like DLT (who was acquitted of all charges), Chris Denning and Paul Gambaccini, along with Rolf Harris (who was a singer-songwriter long before he was a TV personality) and, of course, Savile himself.

Max Clifford is probably the highest profile offender in the "others" strand - his arrest and conviction was, unlike the other celebrities, not directly connected to Savile's abuses.
 
Famine
Neither Murray nor Fry are nonces, nor have they ever been fingered as being so.
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Very well put, as it were.

I wonder what Christmas TV is going to be made of this year, certainly most Top of the Pops 2 Christmas Specials won't be shown, the BBC will be trying to forget the association with stockings and children excitedly awaiting the emptying of the white-bearded man's sack.
 
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On the front page of today's Sunday Mirror (I don't get it, it's the mother in law's), Linda Nolan (a famous singer in the UK) - Rolf Harris groped me age 15. If that was the case, and she's not trying to get attention, why the hell didn't she report the incident earlier? It's immoral to willingly allow it to continue, and she must share some responsibility for it.
 
DG_Silva
If that was the case, and she's not trying to get attention, why the hell didn't she report the incident earlier?
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It's on the cover of the Mirror with her name and details not withheld. She is trying to get attention.

Otherwise, 'celebrity' or not, just go to the police in a private and confidential manner.
 
Liquid
It's on the cover of the Mirror with her name and details not withheld. She is trying to get attention.

Otherwise, 'celebrity' or not, just go to the police in a private and confidential manner.
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Seriously, dude? People with a story to tell have the right to tell their story; most of the reaction VF (of whom I'm no great fan) is getting seems to be based on her looks and the likelihood of her being attractive to a sex offender. The fact that she's a notably verbose, strong, incredibly well-educated woman always seems to upset the red-tops and this is no exception.

What she's doing is telling the genuine story of what happened and giving a picture of how things are in the industry. Did you read her reasons for not going to the police or authorities? It all made perfect sense to me, the media's response (at least the thicky-media, Mirror, Sun et al) has been disgusting (in my opinion) and the usual Facebook neanderthals have dragged themselves along for the herp derp.

Also, bear in mind that Rolf Harris has full right of reply and the opportunity to legal recourse, his rights to public free speech are exactly the same as Vanessa Feltz's.

To be clear; do you feel that all victims of harassment should always go to the police in camera?
 
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So I'm watching my recording of the British GP and they mentioned Milten Keynes in the pre-race show. I was checking out the track on the map and scrolled over to Milton Keynes which looked rather odd to me. They layout of the city...looks like something the Soviets would have come up with. Or maybe something I'd have come up with in Simcity 4 to attempt to control traffic. There's so much pavement and so many roads. It looks very unusual but highly engineered at the same time.

Just wondering if you guys have any insight on why the city was designed like that? Is it all brand new? Does the wonky looking road system actually work? The Google sat image must've been taken on Sunday morning because there's hardly a car on the road.
 
Yes, unlike most British settlements which have developed organically and therefore irregularly, Milton Keynes is a 1960s "new town" project so they had the chance to be creative yet efficient.

Prior to the 60s, the space Milton Keynes occupies was just farmland and maybe a few small hamlets.
 
To me it looks American. The zoning plan of American cities, are, because they're newer, far more logical. Most of our major cities and towns go back several hundred years, so we've got these narrow, windy roads going all over the place which is why London looks like a labyrinth from above.
 
Keef
So I'm watching my recording of the British GP and they mentioned Milten Keynes in the pre-race show. I was checking out the track on the map and scrolled over to Milton Keynes which looked rather odd to me. They layout of the city...looks like something the Soviets would have come up with. Or maybe something I'd have come up with in Simcity 4 to attempt to control traffic. There's so much pavement and so many roads. It looks very unusual but highly engineered at the same time.

Just wondering if you guys have any insight on why the city was designed like that? Is it all brand new? Does the wonky looking road system actually work? The Google sat image must've been taken on Sunday morning because there's hardly a car on the road.
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Milton Keynes was actually laid out to emulate US urban planning (street & avenue) which was very much in vogue in the 1960's as the UK was looking for different idea's to the traditional UK planning with lot's of population growth. The only difference is it has roundabouts at the junctions. It was pretty much all built from scratch (give or take a few old buildings).

Another place which took US inspiration was Redditch in the Midlands, also rebuilt as a new town in the 1960's. Although not a grid layout it's road system is usual and it's home to the only 4 leaf clover interchange (a US staple) in the UK.

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Robin.
Another place which took US inspiration was Redditch in the Midlands, also rebuilt as a new town in the 1960's. Although not a grid layout it's road system is usual and it's home to the only 4 leaf clover interchange (a US staple) in the UK.
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Think I prefer the Round-about under/over the junction idea to be honest.

Damn Immigrunt jerncshuns.

I don't much like MK either, I think British drivers have evolved to navigate more by landmarks than logic!
 
Even Gove tried to spin the fact that he's basically being demoted. They don't even care if they're seen to blatantly lie these days.

Or any days, come to think of it.
 
KSaiyu
Not old enough to know about him, but surely can't have been as bad as the Gove-bashing
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You know what are currently called PD days and previously INSET days? Baker introduced them and they were pejoratively termed "B-days" (a homophone for the arsewasher).
 
I still think of them as "Baker Days". Not so much an age thing as just being resistant to change :)

@KSaiyu, I know sources are normally required but you can go and look up Kenneth Baker. He's now Baron Baker of Dorks, he's was the first serving Minister to be found guilty of contempt of court (as Home Secretary), as Education Secretary his legacy was the National Curriculum. It was the schools that turned it into something "good" after several years... it was a real turd at the time. The '88 Education Reform act included some good things but overall it started the train of bureaucracy that steams through all classrooms on a now-daily basis.
 
Friendly reminder: If you're a guy and ever find yourself in the hell that is Haagen Dazs Leicester Square and need to relieve yourself, turn left after the first doors unless you want to be arrested for being a potential deviant/rapist.
 
:lol:

Friendly reminder: If you're a guy and ever find yourself in a pub in Dublin and you need to relieve yourself, remember that M is Female and F is Male in Ireland, unless you want to be arrested for being a potential deviant/rapist.
 
KSaiyu
So Gove is proved right over his handling of the Birmingham Schools.
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Well handled inquiry overall, difficult subject but something that needed to be resolved quickly.

@BHRxRacer, there's a dicussion ongoing in the Hermerrsexualist thread about the normalcy of intimacy between couples that goes some way to implying what's acceptable. You should have a skeg at the above comments :)

EDIT: Sorry, I always talk 'Ull when I've been on the fern to urrm :)
 

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