BTCC|British Touring Car Championship|By D-MAX| Live Qualification.Sunday 24th April
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- South africa
cheers for the offer bud but had one lurkin in my items, so i'm all painted up an ready to go!
just had a bit of a practice and managed a 1:05.8 round GVE and a 1:29.8 round laguna (think they're right, definately in the 1:05's and 1:29's)
Whoa,that's quick, well done mate! Would you mind PM'ing me your set up? Be much appreciated, the most I can do is mid 1.06's and high 1.30's
- 216
- Bucks, UK
- Kickstart-88
yea mate, no problem, i'll make a note of it next time i'm on the ps3 and send it to you, it's not a perfect set up by any means, i'd like to give the front end a bit more grip on corner exit so i'll probably keep playing around with it a bit, should be a good starting point though.
oh, while i'm posting, quick question for Welsh, I know the regs say power limiter use should be kept to a minimum, but how much are we talking here? might be worth setting a limit of x% so there's no grey area.
cheers
Nick
oh, while i'm posting, quick question for Welsh, I know the regs say power limiter use should be kept to a minimum, but how much are we talking here? might be worth setting a limit of x% so there's no grey area.
cheers
Nick
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
Jesus that's quick. I'm gonna be left for dead by you guys! Haha. Especially if you've got more to come.
That's a good question as well. I've used the power limiter to take off 4hp that I can't knock down by taking parts off. It's either 359 or 344, and I need all the power I can get by the sounds of it!
That's a good question as well. I've used the power limiter to take off 4hp that I can't knock down by taking parts off. It's either 359 or 344, and I need all the power I can get by the sounds of it!
- 2,076
- Portugal
- KamyKaze1098
Yep. It would be good to know how many % we can use. I found out I was using a lot. I had a high turbo installed and around 15% of limiter.
Edit: i also must had i don't see any diference in performance offline, at least in a FF car. Managed to shave only 0.012 of my best time at GVE.
Edit: i also must had i don't see any diference in performance offline, at least in a FF car. Managed to shave only 0.012 of my best time at GVE.
- 216
- Bucks, UK
- Kickstart-88
lol tbh i've only managed to get into the 1:05's 2 or 3 times, and they were pretty lairy laps lol, i can run around 1:06.2's fairly comfortably though:tup:
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
Still impressive. I reckon I could string together a 1.06.2 with 3 perfect sectors, but that'll use a bit more practice. Maybe I should start tweaking my primitve setup haha.
- 3,664
- Bristol
- priesty_lfc
15% limiter is way to much imo.
Everybody knows about he glitch so maxin bhp to pp is abit of a cheat imo :/
Everybody knows about he glitch so maxin bhp to pp is abit of a cheat imo :/
- 341
I've used about 3% limiter, due to the effects of practicing offline.
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
I'd say 5% max. That means you have to get your car under 370bhp. The only trouble I can see with D-Max setting a maximum percentage is that everyone will try and get as close as they can to it so they can gain extra torques.
- 216
- Bucks, UK
- Kickstart-88
well that wouldn't really be any different to just saying 355bhp max no limiter at all, the worry i have is that by just saying "a few %" you run the risk of people seeing how far they can push it, could really do with bein able to restrict the power limiter use as part of the online room regs. guess the problem is it isn't something that's particularly easy to monitor or enforce, so quite a bit of trust and sportsmanship's gonna be required by everyone methinks.
- 3,664
- Bristol
- priesty_lfc
kickstart88
Yep!
Im not in to win, im in for fun!, im rockin 344bhp at 500pp . With 0% fiddling of the power limiter
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
Precisely! I'd need to have 400bhp to have a chance of beating the Hondas haha! I just want to be a part of a close, door-to-door racing championship
- 424
- HMSMotorsport
Got some 'promo shots' for D-Max Racing
And a couple of unrelated artistic ones...
Took some inspriation from your 135i pic there GTWelsh
And a couple of unrelated artistic ones...
Took some inspriation from your 135i pic there GTWelsh
- 3,664
- Bristol
- priesty_lfc
PSN still not up 
Anyway not sure if any of you guys have tried this but,
If you go to practice and run a 1 make race you can turn tire wear on. I just ran 15 laps using Racing Hards and my times were slower that what I can run in free run. I was trying to make them last but I managed to run the whole race. The tires were around half way down by the end and again my times were slower than earlier in the race. I was running 1:09's for the first 10/11 laps then I starting hitting 1:10's and could feel I had much less grip than when I started off.
With this in mind you might wanna run a couple of races to check your tire wear as running 1:06's/1:07's will be no good if its gonna kill your tires! (it takes around 40's for a in/out lap for pitting)
*this practice run was done on the default set up so once I manage to get my race set up i'm hoping this will improve slightly.
Anyway not sure if any of you guys have tried this but,
If you go to practice and run a 1 make race you can turn tire wear on. I just ran 15 laps using Racing Hards and my times were slower that what I can run in free run. I was trying to make them last but I managed to run the whole race. The tires were around half way down by the end and again my times were slower than earlier in the race. I was running 1:09's for the first 10/11 laps then I starting hitting 1:10's and could feel I had much less grip than when I started off.
With this in mind you might wanna run a couple of races to check your tire wear as running 1:06's/1:07's will be no good if its gonna kill your tires! (it takes around 40's for a in/out lap for pitting)
*this practice run was done on the default set up so once I manage to get my race set up i'm hoping this will improve slightly.
- 216
- Bucks, UK
- Kickstart-88
hmm, good thinkin, i'll have to give that a go cos i've got a feeling my civic's gonna be pretty hard on it's front tires!
- 943
- mcglone1994
Yeah, tyres don't really matter at qualifying stage because everyone want's to be at the front you know. But then again i know for a fact that honda's civics eat there tyres when driven to the edge. And 135i i know are very smooth with there driving. There is going to be alot of shockers along the way.
- 2,076
- Portugal
- KamyKaze1098
Can someone tell me how the qualifying will work, and how it will split the racers in the 2 groups??
Can't find that info.
And about the ballast, will it be applied in race 2 of the weekend or only in next round??
Damn Sony. I want to go back online. 👎
Can't find that info.
And about the ballast, will it be applied in race 2 of the weekend or only in next round??
Damn Sony. I want to go back online. 👎
- 341
Not sure what ballast rules will be run, but btcc.net gives the following info:
After both the first and second races on Sunday, the following weight handicaps are added to the top five finishers’ cars before the start of races two and three respectively: 1st = 45kgs; 2nd = 36kgs; 3rd = 27kgs; 4th = 18kgs; 5th = 9kgs. Sixth place or lower does not carry any ballast. After race three, the same amounts of ballast are added to the cars of the five highest-placed drivers in the championship in time for the next round when their cars must take part in practice, qualifying and race one carrying that extra weight. Ballast allocation is decided by the order in which the drivers cross the finish line – eg. if a driver finishes race one in second place but is then relegated places in the official results or even excluded (possibly due to a rules infringement) his or her car must still carry second-placed ballast in race two.
After both the first and second races on Sunday, the following weight handicaps are added to the top five finishers’ cars before the start of races two and three respectively: 1st = 45kgs; 2nd = 36kgs; 3rd = 27kgs; 4th = 18kgs; 5th = 9kgs. Sixth place or lower does not carry any ballast. After race three, the same amounts of ballast are added to the cars of the five highest-placed drivers in the championship in time for the next round when their cars must take part in practice, qualifying and race one carrying that extra weight. Ballast allocation is decided by the order in which the drivers cross the finish line – eg. if a driver finishes race one in second place but is then relegated places in the official results or even excluded (possibly due to a rules infringement) his or her car must still carry second-placed ballast in race two.
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- 424
- HMSMotorsport
Can someone tell me how the qualifying will work, and how it will split the racers in the 2 groups??
Can't find that info.
And about the ballast, will it be applied in race 2 of the weekend or only in next round??
Damn Sony. I want to go back online. 👎
Basically all 30 people doing a flying lap and then are ranked in order of fastest lap. The top 16 will form one group and the lower drivers will form the other
No no no
The qualifying for groups will only apply once and set the drivers for race 1.
what we will do i have 4 drivers in a recommended car racing around the track for 4 laps.. each will leave the start line 20 seconds apart!
Once you have completed you 4 laps your best time will be used and put on the board.
Then for race 1 all the odd number drivers (1,3,5,7,9) will race and all the odds (2,4,6,8) will race. Then based on the previous race results this is how it will work
The qualifying for groups will only apply once and set the drivers for race 1.
what we will do i have 4 drivers in a recommended car racing around the track for 4 laps.. each will leave the start line 20 seconds apart!
Once you have completed you 4 laps your best time will be used and put on the board.
Then for race 1 all the odd number drivers (1,3,5,7,9) will race and all the odds (2,4,6,8) will race. Then based on the previous race results this is how it will work
- 3,664
- Bristol
- priesty_lfc
No no no
The qualifying for groups will only apply once and set the drivers for race 1.
what we will do i have 4 drivers in a recommended car racing around the track for 4 laps.. each will leave the start line 20 seconds apart!
Once you have completed you 4 laps your best time will be used and put on the board.
Then for race 1 all the odd number drivers (1,3,5,7,9) will race and all the odds (2,4,6,8) will race. Then based on the previous race results this is how it will work
eh?
Surely thats over complicating things?
- 951
- United Kingdom
- joshua1994
Should just be run like WSGTC, fastest 16 in D1, the remainding in D2 and do a point system out of 32, instead of 16, so e.g. placing 3rd in D2 would mean you placed 19th on that circuit.
- 2,321
- Wales
- TSR_GTWelsh
Ok scrap that post, after some thought, Jimmy's idea is best, but we should take into consideration it will need to be the average finishing position, due to it being a 2 race round.
Does sound the simplest way tbh.
All it will need is 10 mins of GCSE maths lol, working out everyone's overall position of the round. This will enable us to get "Top 3 Performers Of Round 1" Which is a cool thing to be awarded I guess
If I come 2nd in race 1 then come 10th in race 2 my overall position is 6th... 2 + 10 = 12 ... 12 / 2 = 6..... This will be written down , including both groups. To make one table of overall finishing places.
A sheet of A4 and a pen is all I need.
Then after sorting everyone using average positions.
We get top 3 performers.
And the table we will use to get the next round groups sorted, odds in one group, evens in another.
Does sound the simplest way tbh.
All it will need is 10 mins of GCSE maths lol, working out everyone's overall position of the round. This will enable us to get "Top 3 Performers Of Round 1" Which is a cool thing to be awarded I guess
If I come 2nd in race 1 then come 10th in race 2 my overall position is 6th... 2 + 10 = 12 ... 12 / 2 = 6..... This will be written down , including both groups. To make one table of overall finishing places.
A sheet of A4 and a pen is all I need.
Then after sorting everyone using average positions.
We get top 3 performers.
And the table we will use to get the next round groups sorted, odds in one group, evens in another.
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