BTCC Online Championship Season 2. Complete

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paulmac2k9
I plan a track day after I get my new car, Chevy Lacetti. (Not much point going in my Fiesta :lol:)

Yes but only to watch the BTCC, Cunny you going to the BTCC? :P
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I will be there. We usually sit at end of gravel just after Scotsman. Get in early and get the seats set out for the day. :)
 
cunny17
I will be there. We usually sit at end of gravel just after Scotsman. Get in early and get the seats set out for the day. :)
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We travel down on Friday and usualy go to Duffus but we sometimes go under the shelters at Clarke curve, Duffus 3/4 times so far though :P.

You know the grassy car park up front. (On a hill) We usualy set up our tents at the top of that so If you see my red Fiesta and a van with "Ray homes something" That'll be us :D.
 
Found a primera. Will do some testing right away :)

Edit:
Well that was a surprise! After a bit of tweaking and some test laps, I've managed 1.23.6 in the primera!
It's actually a pretty decent racer, though not the prettiest :)

A worthy contender for S3 👍

Obviously broke with rolo's way of testing the cars (by not tweaking), but it helps so much.
Also used a fully customisable transmission.

Edit (again..):

Compared to the civic, the primera is lacking a bit.
The civic did a 1.21.9.

The primera feels very understeery compared to the civic which almost drives like a rwd car.
 
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JulleGaard90
Obviously broke with rolo's way of testing the cars (by not tweaking), but it helps so much.
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I imagine it would, but I suck at fine tuning :P I feel it's best with my testing to keep things the same, but if you want to tweak it and let me know those times too, then I'd love to hear them.
 
Surprised the Primera is so quick... would be a good car for S3, to replace the Vectra maybe

^ That Saab looks like something off Mad Max
 
rolo912011
I imagine it would, but I suck at fine tuning :P I feel it's best with my testing to keep things the same, but if you want to tweak it and let me know those times too, then I'd love to hear them.
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Sure but it won't be today, got some studying to do.
But your way of testing might keep things more consistent when making the first initial impression of the cars.
 
rolo912011
Firstly I just wanna say that if geeky, or the masses, would rather preserve the status quo for S3 then I can stop what I'm doing and we can think of another set of rules for S3. However, reading through the thread it seems like cars were a big issue in pre-season.

I run every car to this season's regulations: 305hp, 1200/1400kg (depending on drivetrain), and 490PP.

With every car I tune it as far as I can - I add the following parts to every car:

  • Aero (including Front/Rear/Extension where possible)
  • Sports: Soft tyres
  • Twin Plate Clutch
  • Semi-Racing Flywheel
  • Carbon Propeller Shaft (when available)
  • 6 Speed Close Ratio Transmission (or 5 if 6 isn't available)
  • Titanium Racing Exhaust
  • Sports Exhaust Manifold
  • Catalytic Converter: Sports
  • Sports Intake Manifold
  • Racing Air Filter
  • Stage 1/2/3 Weight Reduction (if necessary)
  • Window Weight Reduction/Carbon Bonnet (if necessary)
  • Sports ECU
  • Stage 1/2/3 Engine Tuning (if necessary)
  • Stage 1/2/3 Turbochargers (if necessary) - or a Supercharger if it's available and proves quicker

I then use the Power Limiter and Ballast to make the cars fit the regulations, but do no other set-up tuning.

When it comes to the track I turn Tyre/Fuel Depletion off so I can get consistent quick pace, but every other setting is as per the regulations.

I'm doing the running at Deep Forest at the moment because it's a track I know well, we're racing on this week and hopefully is varied enough to get a good idea of the car's capabilities. It may not be the best track to test on but there's time to add more later if necessary.

I appreciate these tunes possibly won't suit every car, and obviously the set-ups aren't fine tuned so it's not the absolute ultimate pace. But hopefully what I'm doing is consistent enough.

Initial Car List: (Don't worry about the size, I'm only gonna be thinking about the fastest car for each manufacturer and in the end I want no more than 6-10 cars anyway, depending on what people would like to see)

Renault Clio Renault Sport '02
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
Lexus IS200 '98
Citroen C5 V6 Exclusive '03
VW Bora V6 4MOTION '01
Toyota Corolla RUNX Z AEROTOURER '02
Audi S3 '02
BMW 330i '05
Ford Focus ST '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Citroen C4 Coupe 2.0VTS '05
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
MINI Cooper S '07
Peugeot 307 XSi ’04
Renault Megane Renault Sport '08
Volvo C30 R-Design '09
VW Golf V GTI '05
Honda Accord Euro-R '02
Mazda Mazda6 5-door ’03
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Peugeot coupé 406 3.0 V6 ’98
Seat Ibiza Cupra ’04
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
BMW 135i Coupe '07

Have only just begun really (so stop me if this is a waste of time!), but currently the standings are:

Code: 
Renault Clio Renault Sport '02 - 1:22.993 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 477 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02 - 1:23.526 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06 - 1:24.201 (302 BHP, 1200 KG, 463 PP)
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - 1:24.251 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 472 PP)
Volvo C30 R Design '09 - 1:24.279 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 480 PP)
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - 1:24:494 (305 BHP, 1228 KG, 474 PP)
Lexus IS200 '98 - 1:24.572 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 455 PP)
Citroen C4 2.0VTS Coupe '05 - 1:24.675 (305 BHP, 1200KG, 482 PP)
Citroen C5 V6 Exclusive '03 - 1:25.201 (305 BHP, 1252 KG, 469 PP)
VW Bora V6 4MOTION '01 - 1:26.219 (300 BHP, 1400 KG, 452 PP)
Toyota Corolla RUNX Z AEROTOURER '02 - 1:26.509 (297 BHP, 1200 KG, 455 PP)

Obviously so far it appears that some cars are just rubbish! If people wish I'll keep going and add more times to the list as time goes on.

If people wanna add cars to the list then suggest them to me. Any other input appreciated too, even if it's to tell me not to bother with this, lol :)
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wow, many cars untuned are already way faster then a hours tuned vectra :P

good luck on the effort, i did the same back then, and nobody listened at the results :D
 
azidahaka
wow, many cars untuned are already way faster then a hours tuned vectra :P

good luck on the effort, i did the same back then, and nobody listened at the results :D
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I think you put them up during the time the championship was having posts every second :sly:

You can post season 3 car times here or message them and I will try and keep them all together :)
 
Geeky30
I think you put them up during the time the championship was having posts every second :sly:

You can post season 3 car times here or message them and I will try and keep them all together :)
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How about a seperate thread for lap times?
The risk of them being lost in this thread like Karsten's is pretty high...
 
Maybe another means of testing we could do is test races, perhaps on Fridays after the usual meeting. That way we can test maybe 5-6 cars at a time, over a standard race distance to better understand how equal things are. That way testing is done faster and there's the ability to get much more feedback - maybe on lap times, set-up, tyre wear, straight line speed etc etc.

We already know from S2 racing, for example, that the Vectra struggles for tyres and pace, while the Twin Spark Alfa is quite far off the pace. I'd say the other 4 cars we use are relatively equal, the Focus just needs to win a race now :P
 
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rolo912011
Maybe another means of testing we could do is test races, perhaps on Fridays after the usual meeting. That way we can test maybe 5-6 cars at a time, over a standard race distance to better understand how equal things are. That way testing is done faster and there's the ability to get much more feedback - maybe on lap times, set-up, tyre wear, straight line speed etc etc.

We already know from S2 racing, for example, that the Vectra struggles for tyres and pace, while the Twin Spark Alfa is quite far off the pace. I'd say the other 4 cars we use are relatively equal, the Focus just needs to win a race now :P
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I'm with you on that idea :)
 
I'd say that if we do test races, we're gonna need one Audi S3, one BMW 330 and one Focus/Honda from S2, because I think everyone will agree they're the fastest cars in the series and then there's an easy comparison. Doesn't really matter who drives what.

Maybe if we do them, if everyone who wants to take part nominates a car before the usual Friday race, then after the S2 meeting has finished everyone can quickly switch cars ready for the test race (at the same track). Same rules as S2, so I guess grid could be done manually by championship order or something.
 
rolo912011
I'd say that if we do test races, we're gonna need one Audi S3, one BMW 330 and one Focus/Honda from S2, because I think everyone will agree they're the fastest cars in the series and then there's an easy comparison.

Maybe if we do them, if everyone who wants to take part nominates a car before the usual Friday race, then after the S2 meeting has finished everyone can quickly switch cars ready for the test race (at the same track). Same rules as S2, so I guess grid could be done manually by championship order or something.
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I would like to test the Primera or the 156 then :)
Could be very interesting to see how it unfolds!
It's a great idea, and you're right that this is the best way to test the pace of the cars.
 
I don't mind sticking with my Focus for the first test race :) If people want to do it this Friday after Deep Forest then great. I think I'll have time.
 
rolo912011
I don't mind sticking with my Focus for the first test race :) If people want to do it this Friday after Deep Forest then great. I think I'll have time.
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I've got time for it tomorrow night 👍
 
Geeky30
Not during the actual race I hope :lol:
Depends on the time :)
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After the normal meeting. So it's like doing a 3rd race. Non-championship obviously, and using the cars from this list:

Renault Clio Renault Sport '02
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
Lexus IS200 '98
Audi S3 '02
BMW 330i '05
Ford Focus ST '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Peugeot 307 XSi ’04
VW Golf V GTI '05
Honda Accord Euro-R '02
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Peugeot coupé 406 3.0 V6 ’98
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
BMW 120d '04

Read the posts above for more infos :)
 
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