Bugatti VGT? #imaginEBugatti (Update 15/9: So many screenshots!)

[NixxxoN]

When you drive a car IRL you don’t sit on top of a roof or follow it 5 feet behind the rear bumper, you are seated inside the cockpit with limited visibility. The people that use cockpit view want to emulate this feeling. Me personally I don’t use or like that view, but seems like a lot of people do and I’m ok with that and you should be too IMO. Different strokes for different folks

It's a lot more immersive, you practically feel like you're driving. I love driving and being inside a car is where I feel the most at home to be honest with you. That's why it is so enjoyable in real life and in any racing games.

I dont feel it immersive at all because its nothing like real life. In real life you see A LOT better, like... 10 times better.
Enjoy the terrible view guys, its your choice

After doing 99.5% of my GT6 driving in "front bumper" view, I recently made the switch to cockpit view. I now drive 100% in cockpit view and it really is much, much more immersive for me. Nixxxon is right, in the sense that when we drive we are focused on the road in front of us. That is, until I decide to glance down at my tachometer, or fuel gauge, or whatever. In cockpit view I can now see those things (mainly tachometer is what I care about). Sure, I get those big overlays when I was driving in bumper view, but they are hardly realistic.

For the first time, it actually feels like it matters what car I've picked to drive. When I was using bumper view, what did it really matter which car I picked? I couldn't see anything anyway. It just feels 100 times more "fun" to look at a Lamborghini's dashboard or a BMW's or a GT3 race cars digital tachometer approach red line. I've been kicking myself for not making the switch many months ago.

Tell me, when you drive a real car. Are you sitting on the hood? I don't think that you are but if you happen to sit on the hood when you drive please show me a video because i'd like to see that. It'd be hilarious.
And when i dive, i'm watching the water. 👍

Jokes aside, just because you don't understand the purpose of something doesn't make it useless.
I can understand that it's useless for people like you who don't use it but i don't understand why you don't believe people who tell you that they enjoy using the cockpit cam. If they say that they love it it's because they love it, there's nothing wrong with people enjoying something that's different from what you enjoy.

It's enjoyable because it's makes it harder. Some people just like to challenge themselves.

Come on guys, look at the cameras again. The hood cam shows the view as if you were right in front of your windshield, and while its not COMPLETELY realistic, at least it lets you have a good view.
In the cockpit camera its both unrealistic and you also have a bad view.
Its unrealistic because the camera position is too far behind, the viewing angle is way too limited, you have to manually turn your head with buttons, and it just feels... wrong. It is a camera made for triple screen set up.

"It's enjoyable because it's makes it harder" then try to race blindfolded, by your logic you'll enjoy like never before

 

[CodeRedR51]

Come on guys, look at the cameras again. The hood cam shows the view as if you were right in front of your windshield, and while its not VERY realistic, at least it lets you have a good view.
In the cockpit camera its both unrealistic and you also have a bad view.
Its unrealistic because the camera position is too far behind, the viewing angle is way too limited, you have to manually turn your head with buttons, and it just feels... wrong. It is a camera made for triple screen set up.

Agreed. This is why I use hood/roof view.

 

[NixxxoN]

Its not necessary to model the car either. Perhaps PD should do away with it and just do the physics

Im just trying to make you guys see the light You guys should realise that the physical cockpit + physical wheel is what matters, the virtual one doesn't. The cockpit is the real one, the TV screen is the windshield of the car

 

[Il_Conte_Sky]

Just wondering...is it allowed here to have a different opinion/taste/cup of tea without being dragged down into an argument?

...meh

 

[GTPorsche]

Just wondering...is it allowed here to have a different opinion/taste/cup of tea without being tracked down into an argument?

...meh

Welcome to the internet, where your opinion is wrong and it doesn't even matter why it's wrong.

 

[dimassa19]

Im just trying to make you guys see the light You guys should realise that the physical cockpit + physical wheel is what matters, the virtual one doesn't. The cockpit is the real one, the TV screen is the windshield of the car

"...the TV screen is the windshield of the car", and your wheel and pedals the 'true' cockpit.

 

[sparkytooth]

So about that Bugatti, it seems to use the 16.4 engine from the Veyron, judging from the overhead shot.

 

[NixxxoN]

"...the TV screen is the windshield of the car", and your wheel and pedals the 'true' cockpit.

Thats what I said above.

 

[PowerSlide77]

Just wondering...is it allowed here to have a different opinion/taste/cup of tea without being dragged down into an argument?

...meh

at first it was a friendly exchange on our views on what we think of the interior view, until someone (not pointing fingers) decided to make a statement that basically made fun of some users preferences then it turned into an argument.

 

[dimassa19]

Thats what I said above.

Yes, just to create a concept.

 

[TokoTurismo]

at first it was a friendly exchange on our views on what we think of the interior view, until someone (not pointing fingers) decided to make a statement that basically made fun of some users preferences then it turned into an argument.

I notice this happens a lot on the GT board occasionally.

 

[NixxxoN]

at first it was a friendly exchange on our views on what we think of the interior view, until someone (not pointing fingers) decided to make a statement that basically made fun of some users preferences then it turned into an argument.

Yeah, like when everytime I stood against the use of cockpit cam, then some people replied to me like "screw realism trololol" and maybe dont have driving license.

BTW it seems this thread used to be about Bugatti VGT

 

[ALB123]

Yeah, like when everytime I stood against the use of cockpit cam, then some people replied to me like "screw realism trololol" and maybe dont have driving license.

BTW it seems this thread used to be about Bugatti VGT

I just re-checked the posts. Nowhere did anyone says "Screw realism trololol" or question whether you have a drivers license or not. YOU brought it up saying people act like it's the end of the world if there is no modeled interior. People responded, quite politely, explaining that they like interior view (for a variety of reasons).

 

[Magic22]

then try to race blindfolded, by your logic you'll enjoy like never before

At least there's a logic and to answer, i probably would enjoy it It'd be like the time i raced in NASCAR around Le Mans in the middle of the night, i couldn't see anything most of the time (which is why we did that). It was EPIC. 👍

Look, @NixxxoN, all you help us see is you having an unbelievably hard time understanding that there is no right or wrong view in a game. There are only preferences. So i'm going to leave it here because 1) this debate turned argument is irrelevant and 2) it's just not worth it.

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I wonder if when we'll win/buy the Bugatti we'll win the colours too? This blue looks awesome so i really hope that it'll be added to my collection when i win the car.

 

[Aussie_HSV]

Loving the looks of the Bugatti.
Should be a beast to drive, and can't wait to hear the specs.
With the Veyrons in the game sitting at just under 1000BHP, I'm struggling to think of reasons why this won't comfortably surpass that.
And I can think of many reasons why it should be substantially lighter.
So the PP should be interesting.

History would tell us not to expect an interior.
Particularly with a hard top.
Kaz has mentioned they aim to get the interiors into the VGTs, but my personal suspicion is that that may not be seen until GT7.

And @Magic22, I probably wouldn't hold much hope for the paint either.
With the history behind the colour scheme being mentioned, it's perhaps unlikely they'll offer alternatives.
And two-tone paint doesn't seem to be offered as chips.


But after saying all that, who knows what surprises they may have up their sleeves.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Like the car, like the paint. I really hope I like the drive aswell.
Sadly, looking at past VGT's in this scheme (Peugeot, Toyota etc) they have been dissapointing due to the setup of the cars (read; excessive rear toe - ruins the handling).

 

[ScottPuss20]

I don't know what to say about this car... I'm not raving, but I'm happy that we have gotten something that really is something special. For some strange reason, I think that the Bugatti Chiron will be the cover car for GT7...

 

[Dylan]

Hopefully they don't give a ridiculous amount of horsepower. If they do, it will end up just like the tomahawk, 2x, etc. used once by most drivers and left to rot in the garage, while every 7 year old fields it in track day lobbies without even knowing how to drive it. I'm holding out for something along the lines of 700ish hp.

 

[oli440]

My guess would be the car will have a lot of horsepower, but with all that aerodynamic kit, it will struggle to achieve an incredibly high speed. Perhaps they thought aiming for speed would be too cliche (the SRT VGT is a prime example).

By being faithful to the Bugatti race cars of old, this car will accelerate hard and corner with greater agility than A GT3 car. It might exceed 200mph, but I wouldn't expect much more than that.

This, more than anything else, looks like a focused track car and not a posh mans Monte Carlo bling on wheels...

 

[NixxxoN]

My guess would be the car will have a lot of horsepower, but with all that aerodynamic kit, it will struggle to achieve an incredibly high speed. Perhaps they thought aiming for speed would be too cliche (the SRT VGT is a prime example).

By being faithful to the Bugatti race cars of old, this car will accelerate hard and corner with greater agility than A GT3 car. It might exceed 200mph, but I wouldn't expect much more than that.

This, more than anything else, looks like a focused track car and not a posh mans Monte Carlo bling on wheels...

Perhaps with this they will manage to make a good handling version of the veyron

 

[Hellburner]

I still don't get it why car manufacturers keep on making these VGT cars for a 3 year old game on an aged console? In the case of Bugatti they even made a 1:1 model of it. Of course they didn't make it only for GT but I was wondering if this car isn't made for the announcement of GT7... Announcing a race game at a massive car event like Frankfurt may give them more attention.

 

[Ryk]

The Bugatti will be a Le Mans spec car (High speed - low drag) - the map of La Sarthe on the interior gives it away
- I can't see it being a nimble Pocket rocket....

...guess I'll just have to paint my Elise blue and unleash my inner Cantona.

Allons enfants de la Patrie, Le jour de gloire est arrivé! ...

 

[C-ZETA]

I still don't get it why car manufacturers keep on making these VGT cars for a 3 year old game on an aged console?

Because they said they would. So they are.

Though that said I just wish Nike and Jordan would hurry up with theirs. Seriously, is anyone going to a Hornets game soon?!

 

[FoRiZon]

I still don't get it why car manufacturers keep on making these VGT cars for a 3 year old game on an aged console? In the case of Bugatti they even made a 1:1 model of it. Of course they didn't make it only for GT but I was wondering if this car isn't made for the announcement of GT7... Announcing a race game at a massive car event like Frankfurt may give them more attention.

Because each manufacturer descision is up theirs, not yours or ours.

Secondly, the "3 year old game on an aged console" has a huge install base, so they can have a huge attention.

I quote to the Peugeot VGT opening video: "All this time the concept car enviroment has been very exclusive. Now, people can participate (drive) in it (virtually). "

 

[Niku Driver HC]

The Bugatti will be a Le Mans spec car (High speed - low drag) - the map of La Sarthe on the interior gives it away
- I can't see it being a nimble Pocket rocket....

...guess I'll just have to paint my Elise blue and unleash my inner Cantona.

Allons enfants de la Patrie, Le jour de gloire est arrivé! ...

With all due respect, expecting a modern Bugatti to be a "pocket rocket" of all things is a bit daft, don't you think? At best, it should be less stiff than a Veyron around every corner in existence. Granted, it will have strong aero setting to match its racecar credentials, but the steering shouldn't require the strength of 20 professional wrestlers to turn. Of course, such things are PD's responsability, so we will have to wait and see how will the car be specced.

And why use an Elise? You could use a Hommell Berlinette for that role instead, you know...

 

[Ryk]

Compare a 1920's racing Bugatti to a 1920's racing Bentley.

I always consider a Bugatti to be a smaller engined nimble racer - and a Bentley as a Powerful Gorilla of a car. My default setting is not your usual Veyron as being everything that Bugatti has done.

With a throwback colours, part of me wants what obviously isn't on the plate.

Elise - French name - But the steering wheel is in the right place. The Hommell is nice, but a bit plain looking.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Compare a 1920's racing Bugatti to a 1920's racing Bentley.

I always consider a Bugatti to be a smaller engined nimble racer - and a Bentley as a Powerful Gorilla of a car. My default setting is not your usual Veyron as being everything that Bugatti has done.

With a throwback colours, part of me wants what obviously isn't on the plate.

Elise - French name - But the steering wheel is in the right place. The Hommell is nice, but a bit plain looking.

Fair enough, you are looking back in Bugatti's story, based on the "vintage-esque" paint scheme of the VGT. And yes, you are correct; 1920's Bentleys were heavy fuel-guzzling beasts which prided themselves in their sheer might, whereas Bugattis were the simpler, lighter cars which had the handling advantage.

I do know that the Veyron isn't everything that Bugatti has done, granted, but in recent years it has become a staple of the brand for the better or worse, and acts as the main ambassador of Bugatti. Therefore, part of me also wants a nimble race car, but knowing the current position of Bugatti, I have to also consider the possibility that this car will be closer to a Veyron perfomance-wise.

The detailing harking back to Bugatti's past Le Mans glory is true and neat, but the other, more down-to-Earth realistic me wants to avoid wanting what isn't on the plate...

Ah, I see, fair enough. Still, with the Hommell being French, it's slightly more fitting in my honest opinion.

 

[FoRiZon]

Ever knew why Bugatti are painted like that?

Also why the Alpine got the same paint?

Spoiler: Answer

French blue, duh. Viva Le France

 

[Scuderia Paul]

BUGATTI VISION GRAN TURISMO HI-RES IMAGES

Here are some hi-res images of the Bugatti which could be useful for wallpapers or artwork. They may have been posted already but this thread moved along quickly and I cannot check all the posts.​

Spoiler: HI-RES BUGATTI VISION GRAN TURISMO IMAGES

 

[eran0004]

I only just noticed the "bluewall" tyres, that's a nice touch!