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We're just having a bit of fun waiting for GT7 by speculating about what these subtle points might mean in regards to a PS4 entry in the Gran Turismo series. I don't see what the harm is.
Bugatti VGT? #imaginEBugatti (Update 15/9: So many screenshots!)
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We're just having a bit of fun waiting for GT7 by speculating about what these subtle points might mean in regards to a PS4 entry in the Gran Turismo series. I don't see what the harm is.
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So let me get this straight, I can't speculate for GT7 because GT6 doesn't have a course maker? Ok I see absolutely nothing wrong with this logic, no siree.
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Because the fact the new game is in development/teased doesn't directly correlate with the current game being completely abandoned?
For instance, I suspect Forza 6 was probably being developed back when Forza 5 was still receiving DLC, and therefore being supported.
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Lol good luck.
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Some of us at least want to see GT6 in a somewhat completed state before we dump the series for good. Unless you're happy with an broken, unfinished product then kudos to you.
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!Cough! GT7 hype train !Cough! Maybe Bugatti will be using the new design dna in this Vision Bugatti concept car and be putting it into Bugatti next production car which be after the 450th and final Bugatti Veyron is made. This new production car from Bugatti could coincide with GT7 release, and just maybe Bugatti new production car will be the cover car of GT7. Like I said on the news comments for More Hyundai & Bugatti Vision GT Details From Frankfurt news comments. ?? Speculation hype train is being started again by me. hehe 
What say you my beloved GT community fans?
What say you my beloved GT community fans?
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As I alluded to earlier, I'm not sure what it is about GT7 being teased that makes GT6 an irredeemably unfinished game. As I understand it, everything previously promised to be included in the game was added via update. There's no reason yet to assume the Course Maker won't make it in either.
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It's just bait, just keep talking about the machine.
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Good idea. I'm loving the yellow and black Bugatti colour scheme. It's like a particularly aggressive bee.
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I saw people speculating, several posts back, due to seeing a DS4 controller & PS4 in one of the videos. I'd be willing to bet money that nobody was playing Gran Turismo in that video. I'm sure a video loop of the Bugatti in action was recorded and played while the actors appeared to be controlling the car. I'd bet that the reason they showed a PS4/DS4 was just because who wants to show off a 9 year old system when you could show off the current hotness?
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I'm beginning to believe.
A couple of freeze frames:
This at 2:10.
Similar to the 'Not in-game footage' shot, but this time with the car on track.
That crowd looks horribly GTish
And this at 0:41.
A wall of 'Polyphony Digital' and 'Gran Turismo' banners.
A couple of freeze frames:
This at 2:10.
Similar to the 'Not in-game footage' shot, but this time with the car on track.
That crowd looks horribly GTish
And this at 0:41.
A wall of 'Polyphony Digital' and 'Gran Turismo' banners.
I think it goes without saying that the people in the videos weren't actually playing the game.
But isn't it weird to put a PS4 controller in there?
On one hand I agree, but on the other: They are hiding the fact that they use a DS4 by covering the light at the front. You need to look very closely to see what controller they are "using". Why didn't they simply use a DS3 then? It IS weird, isn't it?
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Because the last time a console was included in a trailer for a VGT (the Golf) they showed an actual PS3 and DS3 instead of a PS4, and that was also after the PS4's release. Plus, nowhere has Gran Turismo 6 or the PS3 actually been mentioned in connection to these cars, whereas every previous VGT had a GT6 watermark included in the images, and specifically mentioned that the cars were to be added into GT6. If it was a simple case of these cars being available in GT6 on PS3, why not state that? Why not find a DS3 and PS3 for the video? GT6 is, after all, a PS3 game, so why not advertise the fact? I'm sure Sony have one somewhere they could use if they wanted to. This may have something to do with GT7 being around the corner, with the approach to advertising for Gran Turismo subtly changing to reflect that.
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PD probably started working on GT7 before GT6 was released. There's a long way from early ideas to finished game. In fact, a lot of the new content in GT6 was probably made with GT7 in mind, the cars that feature adaptive tesselation for instance can easily be converted to PS4 quality by just changing the resolution at which they are displayed.
But every game has a life cycle and sooner or later the support for GT6 will come to and end, regardless of wether or not the course maker has been completed and added. GT7 is probably more than a year away though, so there's still plenty of time before GT6 is dropped.
As for the Bugatti video, that specific gamer part doesn't look like it's made by PD so the PS4 being used is probably a mistake and not a hint of what is around the corner. It wouldn't be the first time that promotional material contains errors of this kind.
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All true. I think the other bits and bobs in relation to the whole PS4 GT thing are compelling though. The PS4 in the trailer is just another little thing. I'm more swayed by that impressive shot of the carbon fibre Bugatti and the lighting and shading which is leagues better than GT6's own lighting engine.
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That is huge. Like, huge. Wow.Apparently so, let's use a GTS-R image to compare with the "carbon-clad" Bugatti;
Yup, almost like night and day... The main and most noticeable difference, in my opinion, lies in the lighting and its reflection; the GTS-R's picture does look half as shiny as the Bug, and not only that, but the lighting in the Bugatti's body looks far better laid out than the SRT's own. Improved PS4 hardware, or PD's exhibition engine improvement? You decide!
I'm beginning to believe.
A couple of freeze frames:
This at 2:10.
Similar to the 'Not in-game footage' shot, but this time with the car on track.
That crowd looks horribly GTish
And this at 0:41.
A wall of 'Polyphony Digital' and 'Gran Turismo' banners.
Horrible comparison but....
Now...my level of speculation gone down...
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That is huge. Like, huge. Wow.
The SRT looks like it came from a game. The lighting, the reflections, the definition on the carbon fibre material are all obviously "gamey". The Bugatti, meanwhile, looks far more real, specifically that subtle halo effect around the LEDs and the way the carbon weave picks up the light. The actual model is no better than a GT6 one (because they all have insane poly counts anyway), but the finer details are on another level compared to the SRT image. They really bring the overall image up in terms of realism.
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Horrible comparison but....
I wonder if they're using GT6 assets within the GT7 engine. Maybe the GT7 Le Mans course is not ready, or just using the GT6 stuff in GT7 because it's easy and doesn't reveal too much.
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Nice work. 👍View attachment 446925 View attachment 446926
Horrible comparison but....
All I was meaning was that those shots certainly seemed to be in-game in GT, but that the replay graphics are far better than GT6.
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That is huge. Like, huge. Wow.
Indeed, it's incredible how a few lighting touches can make the SRT picture look like a realistic shot of a toy car in comparison with the Bugatti. It just goes to show you how a new hardware could make the game look so much better with some select changes. chzs pretty much hits the nail in the head regarding the rest;
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So has there been any kind of gameplay with this machine shown off?
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Hmm, I think there's far more to the appearance of the Bugatti than just a tweak to the lighting. I also don't think the car's shape is enough to bring out such a difference in the lighting, either. The SRT looks so dull and flat in that image, whereas there's a real intensity of detail to the Bugatti image that I'm just not seeing in the SRT shot. The big thing in Forza on XBONE (and DriveClub on PS4) was materials and shaders - metal, cloth, leather, carbon fibre. They all look phenomenal, and that's one area where PS4-gen graphics excel hugely over PS3-gen. That is what I'm seeing here, a really fine underlying detail to the carbon, which in turn brings out details in the lighting and the way it looks on the weave. These are things that I just cannot see in that SRT photo, or in any in-game shots from GT6.
Edit: a trip to Google Images for a cursory flick through some other VGT promo images supports what I'm seeing here. None look as good as that Bugatti image, even considering the vast array of cars, backdrops, and lighting conditions used in the VGT promo images. The Bugatti images caught my eye in a way the previous VGT images didn't - they were clearly a product of the GT6 engine, whereas the lighting just looks fundamentally very different in these.
Edit 2: as an addendum, previous VGT images have, in the bottom right corner, the message "Gran Turismo 6: TM and ©2013 Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Developed by Polyphony Digital Inc." The Bugatti and Hyundai ones say "Gran Turismo: TM and ©2015" at the start. I just thought that was interesting they aren't tying them to GT6, because technically, if their images were taken in the GT7 engine, the images aren't representative of GT6 and the copyright and trademark notice has been adjusted as such.
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They are still PS3 engine renders though. 
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The Chaparral was dropped at the LA show, the Detroit show dropped the new Corvette, and the FT-1, there's three precedents right there. And the Mercedes came out at the LA show the year before that so that's a fourth. So yes, not every show has a GT tie in but with the buzz for these next two and the coincidental timing of the next two shows it's not unreasonable to think.
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