Bugatti VGT? #imaginEBugatti (Update 15/9: So many screenshots!)

[R5]

The Chaparral was dropped at the LA show, the Detroit show dropped the new Corvette, and the FT-1, there's three precedents right there. And the Mercedes came out at the LA show the year before that so that's a fourth. So yes, not every show has a GT tie in but with the buzz for these next two and the coincidental timing of the next two shows it's not unreasonable to think.

They're concept cars, not games.

 

[Zlork]

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Horrible comparison but.... Now...my level of speculation gone down...

I don't want to be mean but your pictures are horrible. On my TV, it's much better.

 

[Polsixe]

They're concept cars, not games.

Referring to the Bugatti and Mazda Vision Cars, not GT7.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I hate to be that guy but assuming this

is GT7 on the PS4 than you underestimate PD, now way the environments will look that bad on the PS4.

 

[Smurfybug]

I hate to be that guy but assuming this

is GT7 on the PS4 than you underestimate PD, now way the environments will look that bad on the PS4.

Especially the clouds...The clouds must have a better texture than this.

 

[sparkytooth]

The Chaparral was dropped at the LA show, the Detroit show dropped the new Corvette, and the FT-1, there's three precedents right there. And the Mercedes came out at the LA show the year before that so that's a fourth. So yes, not every show has a GT tie in but with the buzz for these next two and the coincidental timing of the next two shows it's not unreasonable to think.

Those are individual machines that are part of a project with heavy manufacturer tie ins and promotion, it makes more sense to announce such things at a motoring show to gather that publicity from the motoring press. Don't mistake it for a completely new installment of a videogame, which SCE is most likely to announce during a conference at a gaming show, not a motor show.

 

[R5]

Referring to the Bugatti and Mazda Vision Cars, not GT7.

But you quoted Sparkytooth, who was referring to GT7

He's right though, you wouldn't announce a video game at a motoring show.

As did GTPorsche, the person you originally quoted.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Especially the clouds...The clouds must have a better texture than this.

Yeah that shot is GT6 for me.

 

[Aussie_HSV]

Guys, those shots I took were from parts of the video that were probably on-screen for less than 1 second, paused somewhere decent with the panning camera, screen-saved, uploaded to Photobucket, then linked here.

I wasn't trying to show how awesome everything is in those shots.
Simply that there's evidence that the replays shown in the video are from GT.

And to my eyes, those replays look better than anything I've seen in GT6.

 

[FoRiZon]

Lol ahaha. You guys really think this VGT will not be on GT6 but GT7 because there is no GT6 logo and a bit of shinier visuals?

2 months really grabs you, isnt it?

 

[REW]

Closer look at the car. Interior screens look damn good and it sounds good.

For driver view jump to 15:37 and for clean sound to 14:55

 

[FastFurious77]

No I can't make out anything in that in game footage screenshot which makes me think its GT7. It's obvious that what is being shown is the VGT Bugatti Concept and Hyundai concept car being driven in GT6. But when showing a PS4 / DS4 controller, this is either an oversight in marketing from whoever PD hired to do the promotion video trailer. Or it has been purposely scripted and filmed this way to get a subtle message across. To me its what I said earlier and I say it again.

Now I don't claim I'm right i'm probably wrong, but I have a strong suspicion that the PS4 and DS4 being shown is mean to mean something. Remember Bugatti saying this concept shows off the new design dna. This is just the beginning, and Bugatti want to give something the video game fans. So this is what I think, the next Bugatti production car could well be the next cover car for GT7. This is where the DS4 / PS4 aspect of the video ties into the next gen system.

But here I am repeating my self and its only supposition. It sure means that Bugatti will have a relationship with PD in the long term. And it could mean it will lead to other VGT cars from Bugatti, but if VGT isn't coming to GT7. Then surely PD and Bugatti have something pretty special planned for the next gen console. And this is a taster with a subtle message used to bring the first concept to GT6 on PS3 first.

Remember the Bugatti Concept car you see above me here marks the first of a new breed of hyper cars. It carries the new design dna that will be carried over to the next Bugatti production car. What better car to have on a front cover of a new game on a next gen console than a new Bugatti hyper car that will carry the dna from this car here. But I'll be gladly proven wrong and eat my humble pie.

But the pictures are undeniably look like next gen modeling. Using new lighting, texture and shader engine with so much more detail as others have said. It could be that these images were captured and PD decided to tease us. Maybe they thought they would take the model rendered for PS3 engine and see what the PS4 engine can do with it. Then the result is the pictures we see are the glimpse of a GT7 render at work.

 

[RACECAR]

Closer look at the car. Interior screens look damn good and it sounds good.

I believe one of you asked whether there was an actual powerful engine and not a VW one. Well, there's your answer

 

[GTPorsche]

The W16 is technically a VW engine anyway.

 

[sparkytooth]

Haven't bothered to watch the video fully, but does this real model have a real W16?

 

[GTPorsche]

Haven't bothered to watch the video fully, but does this real model have a real W16?

It really drives, so most likely it does.

 

[sparkytooth]

So like the GTI Roadster it really drives. That's pretty cool.

 

[Skygrasper550]

I'm digging the optional colors. Especially that red, god it looks so sexeeeeeyyyyy

 

[Quakebass]

What I'm getting lost with here is the people claiming GT6 isn't finished until all the VGT's are out...

The project was created in celebration of GT's 15th anniversary, but I don't think wasn't tied specifically to the actual anniversary. I believe the original plan was to be done with the initial list of brands within the 1st year (there is a Kaz quote that exists somewhere, I'm certain), but that didn't quite happen due to the pacing of the manufacturers.

I was under the assumption that Vision Gran Turismo is an on-going project/feature with the GT series, and will continue to exist as long as PD holds any sort of good relationship with any sort of automotive design studio...

 

[sparkytooth]

Well we could reasonably assume that the remaining in-game manufacturer slots are going to be filled by the end of the game's run.

 

[Dylan]

"Well that isn't a racing car. That's just strong pornography!" -Jeremy Clarkson

 

[RACECAR]

Haven't bothered to watch the video fully, but does this real model have a real W16?

It does. Starts up and sounds exactly like the W16.

 

[sparkytooth]

That's amazing.

 

[ToyGTone]

I don't want to be mean but your pictures are horrible. On my TV, it's much better.

Using component wires for 1080p recording instead of HDMI makes it my screen look bad...

Can i see your screen of GT6 btw? just sayin'

 

[chzsln485]

"Well that isn't a racing car. That's just strong pornography!" -Jeremy Clarkson

The interesting thing being that Jeremy originally said that in reference to Gran Turismo 4 (specifically talking about the Aston Martin DB9 in the game during that episode where he goes to challenge his Laguna Seca lap times).

Lol ahaha. You guys really think this VGT will not be on GT6 but GT7 because there is no GT6 logo and a bit of shinier visuals?

2 months really grabs you, isnt it?

I don't think anyone said that (or at least, I never thought that). I think the car will be in GT6. What I do draw from all this speculation is a number of other conclusions:

GT7 does exist. The lighting in those Bugatti shots is part of of that, because I struggle to believe that any combination of settings in GT6's engine will reproduce lighting as good as that. I can also tell that GT7 is being hinted at in these images not by what is there in the images, but by what isn't. The lack of a GT6 watermark or title card, an update of the copyright notice from 2013 to 2015, all suggesting, very subtly I admit, that this isn't GT6. If it was GT6, why not just say? You can't call it GT6 if it isn't, but you can call it just Gran Turismo, because GT7 will be a Gran Turismo game.

As such, I believe we've reached a transitional phase, where Polyphony are moving from marketing through GT6 to marketing through GT7, even though I think there will be an update to offer this car in GT6.

The whole situation is reminiscent of the early PS3 technology demonstrations, where GT4 assets (tracks, car, human models) were used in an early version of GT5's engine so as to tease us about the future a little bit. Here, PDI are using what I believe are GT6 assets (cars, tracks) in a version of the GT7 engine.

 

[chzsln485]

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[ScottPuss20]

My faith in GT is restored. This car is not a generic concept, it has character, it's driven by passion that I'm yet to see in any video game... As for GT7 however, the latest videos and screenshots neither confirm nor deny that the game is on the way. Nothing looks like it's set in concrete, we're just left to speculate about what is going on in the PD studio right now.

 

[chrisspeed281]

The only Question is : WHEN ?

 

[silverman_GT]

(La Sarthe pics taken from "This is for the fans." video on Bugatti's FB page.)

R.I.P "6". You shall always be remembered in a future update.

 

[chzsln485]

Only Kaz knows what's actually going on with these pictures, but I get the feeling he's pretty pleased with himself for stirring up 16 metric tons of hype, almost without even trying, by chucking some highly cryptic hints our way. For instance, the complete lack of any reference to GT6 is very intriguing to me.

You sneaky devil, Kaz.