Cadillac ATS
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I think that's a good looking car. The sedan already is good looking, and this progresses the style along nicely. The grille can stay or go, I'm not sold on it. I jus thope Cadillac gets around to introducing it on more models quickly, or, the ATS Coupe and Escalade will look odd.
Fingers crossed for the ATS-V coupe. We'll see.
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The only problem I have with this car is that it's the softest new Caddy yet. There are virtually no sharp angles on this car to speak of. My main gripe is the grille. It's way too soft and not edgy enough. The ATS sedan has a noticeably edgier front which might not be as cohesive but does look more like a modern Cadillac.
The worst thing they could do is turn their cars soft. This sharp angle thing might be a decade or more old but I'll be damned if it hasn't looked pretty fresh the entire time.
Other than that gripe I think it looks good. Safe, but good.
I'm not as bothered by the lack of wreath as I used to be but the grille design itself on the ATS Coupe is way too soft.
Not the grille itself, but the front end in general of the new CTS looks sharper and more sciency than this ATS Coupe as well. Perhaps the new CTS's design theme has not translated to the ATS which was based on a crossing-over period of design.
The worst thing they could do is turn their cars soft. This sharp angle thing might be a decade or more old but I'll be damned if it hasn't looked pretty fresh the entire time.
Other than that gripe I think it looks good. Safe, but good.
I don't know what you mean by this. The ATS Coupe's grille is the softest thing they've released since the 90s whereas the new Escalade is one of the sharpest. You could split hairs with those knife edges.
I'm not as bothered by the lack of wreath as I used to be but the grille design itself on the ATS Coupe is way too soft.
Not the grille itself, but the front end in general of the new CTS looks sharper and more sciency than this ATS Coupe as well. Perhaps the new CTS's design theme has not translated to the ATS which was based on a crossing-over period of design.
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I'm under the impression that the grille on the ATS coupe will be the new corporate face going forward, based on the Elmiraj concept. For some reason I thought the Escalade had the same grille... I'm surprised how fast I forgot that it didn't.
More or less, it looks like we're in the middle of a style direction change at Cadillac. I wonder how long it will be until the new grille shows up on all of their products? Come to think of it, I can really only see how terrible it will look on some of the new cars.
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I like the new grill and emblem. I don't care for the wreath. I do agree with Keef about the car overall being too soft, or safe.
I think the roofline should have been more fastback, and less of the literally the sedan minus two doors look. But maybe they wanted that traditional trunk in there.
I think the roofline should have been more fastback, and less of the literally the sedan minus two doors look. But maybe they wanted that traditional trunk in there.
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I'd love to know what they have smoked if they think that this two box wonder can compete with BMW M3/M4.. Having same horsepower as the mentioned M-products doesn't mean similar performance. Silly 'muricans..
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Given the track record of Cadillac versus that of BMW over the past year or two, I wouldn't put the M cars up too high (yet). The M5 and M6 have been very controvercial in the States, and if that current formula will continue to proliferate among the newer M cars, I don't know what to expect with the smaller 3 and 4 based models. I'd be more worried that Cadillac could overdo it. Tuning the chassis to be too stiff, throwing a ride/handling balance out the window for the idea of "performance," it isn't as though they've never done that eleventy times at GM.
It's a fair assumption that the ATS-V will be damn good, just like the standard sedan is compared to the standard 3-series. The dark hose in that category, however, has to go to Infiniti for the EauRogue. That damn car could throw the whole category out of whack.
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I guess that, based on the "reviews" of the EauRogue, I'm not entirely sure what they're planning on having it compete against at this point. Of course, it doesn't help that Infiniti has completely lost me on what car is which. So, it is a Q50... So, technically, it has to compete with the M4 and the ATS-V. And yet, it seems absolutely monstrous in size, and outside of the massive power, it doesn't seem to back it up with the handling performance it needs. Which is weird.
Either way, that ATS-V prototype looks like its pretty quick, and I'll be damned if that wasn't a GM-owned M4 they were benchmarking it against. I'm actually surprised they didn't have an E46 M3 along for the ride, you know, since the standard ATS was supposed to be benchmarked on the same car.
Either way, that ATS-V prototype looks like its pretty quick, and I'll be damned if that wasn't a GM-owned M4 they were benchmarking it against. I'm actually surprised they didn't have an E46 M3 along for the ride, you know, since the standard ATS was supposed to be benchmarked on the same car.
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In which way? The ATS is not off the BMW or Mercedes beat whatsoever, nor is the CTS, ELR, or Escalade for that matter. The previous CTS-V was quite good, and with the ATS-V taking its place (in lieu of a forthcoming hot CTS)... Well, it has to be good.
Question is how much they're going to pump up the 3.6TT V6. At 420 BHP, its enough to put it up against the M3/M4, but it'll be the weight that'll separate the two, I think. Dark horse bet? Cadillac offers AWD. That'd be waving it a bit in front of AMG...
Question is how much they're going to pump up the 3.6TT V6. At 420 BHP, its enough to put it up against the M3/M4, but it'll be the weight that'll separate the two, I think. Dark horse bet? Cadillac offers AWD. That'd be waving it a bit in front of AMG...
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Cadillac's build quality isn't the problem. The problem is that they're very poorly packaged and CUE is possibly the worst infotainment system on the market. Cadillac interiors of late aren't bad at all, they're very nicely built and the materials are great. The design isn't quite my thing but the materials and panel gaps are miles ahead of BMW.
As for power, I wouldn't be surprised if the ATS-V is pushing out close to 500 bhp. I've got no basis for that, just a gut feeling that GM will give it a great chassis and a ludicrous amount of power. If it gets a manual it'll be very, very tempting.
As for power, I wouldn't be surprised if the ATS-V is pushing out close to 500 bhp. I've got no basis for that, just a gut feeling that GM will give it a great chassis and a ludicrous amount of power. If it gets a manual it'll be very, very tempting.
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Missing the V8 but, not bad.....for a turbo... 
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According to R&T, its a 450 BHP tune of the 3.6L twin-turbo V6 from the CTS V-Sport. Also, its the first to get the 6-speed manual with the 3.6T, but still has the optional 8-speed automatic. I'm willing to bet that, once again, the automatic will be the quicker option... But, kudos to Cadillac for sticking to the stick.
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I don't care what anyone says...that car is AMAZING. 
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Very tasteful imo.
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The ATS-V looks very nice. But I don't see why someone would buy the regular coupe as it doesn't look better than the sedan.
