Port Moresby, Papau New Guinea
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5487856
Lille
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5487864
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5487856
Lille
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Calling all track designers, show off your work!
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ITCC_Andrew
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Looks pretty good Rendall...
Also, this track already exists:
Gold Coast, Australia
I just found it really interesting, that you can still see the spots on the pavement where the curbing was, AND where the drivers did their victory celebrations.
Also, this track already exists:
Gold Coast, Australia
I just found it really interesting, that you can still see the spots on the pavement where the curbing was, AND where the drivers did their victory celebrations.
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Clearfield, Pennsylvania
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5445505
Copenhagen, Denmark
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486491
EDIT: ^That's not the only one, if you go to the Palanga street circuit, the picture is actually taken mid-race.
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5445505
Copenhagen, Denmark
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486491
EDIT: ^That's not the only one, if you go to the Palanga street circuit, the picture is actually taken mid-race.
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ITCC_Andrew
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You redesigned Fuji! That long straight is LONGER than the straight at Fuji... The FIA disapproves. Andy Green approves.
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It's less than 2km. Wouldn't be hard at all to add a chicane, either.
ITCC_Andrew
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+1 for chicanes. I love chicanes. Hairpins can get boring, but, Turn 1 at Madrid Reverse is SO hard to get right, and it's worth like three seconds a lap.
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With talk that Formula 1 might return to Mexico in 2013, I've decided to draw up a version of the Hermanos Rodriguez circuit that adequately addresses the issue of safety at the Peraltada without using a brutally-awkward chicane to slow the cars down. The beauty of this is that the longest version of the current circuit is 4.4km long, and with 5.5km being the average length for a circuit these days (and the FIA regulations allowing for up to 7.5km), there's some extra track length to play around with.
This is what I've come up with: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5491815
First of all, I tightened Turn 3. This is a largely cosmetic change, but it allows Turn 4 to become something along the lines of Monza's Curva Grande. And it opens up the opportunity to make Turn 5 a double-apex right-hander.
At the bottom of the circuit, I straight-lined one of the corners to raise the entry speed into the Esses which I hope would make things more challenging, and also because some of those early corners were awkwardly slow.
Finally, the biggest change - the infield extension. I included this to lengthen the circuit, thereby lowering the number of laps and reducing the chances for an accident to occur at the Peraltada. The space was a little limited, and I briefly considered making a Suzuka-style fly-over here, but ultimately decided that simple was better.
Instead of using a slow chicane into the Peraltada, I decided to add a pair of faster corners that would require some braking, but would not slow the cars down entirely. I modelled it on the fast chicane at Melbourne, and two corners from the circuit used for the 1991 United States Grand Prix. These are designed to work with the Pirelli tyres: the drivers can take the corner quickly if their tyres are in good condition, but have to take it slower the more their tyres deteriorate. This naturally affects the entry speed into the Peraltada.
Unfortunately, this design destroys about a dozen football fields and two baseball diamonds, so it's unlikely to happen.
This is what I've come up with: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5491815
First of all, I tightened Turn 3. This is a largely cosmetic change, but it allows Turn 4 to become something along the lines of Monza's Curva Grande. And it opens up the opportunity to make Turn 5 a double-apex right-hander.
At the bottom of the circuit, I straight-lined one of the corners to raise the entry speed into the Esses which I hope would make things more challenging, and also because some of those early corners were awkwardly slow.
Finally, the biggest change - the infield extension. I included this to lengthen the circuit, thereby lowering the number of laps and reducing the chances for an accident to occur at the Peraltada. The space was a little limited, and I briefly considered making a Suzuka-style fly-over here, but ultimately decided that simple was better.
Instead of using a slow chicane into the Peraltada, I decided to add a pair of faster corners that would require some braking, but would not slow the cars down entirely. I modelled it on the fast chicane at Melbourne, and two corners from the circuit used for the 1991 United States Grand Prix. These are designed to work with the Pirelli tyres: the drivers can take the corner quickly if their tyres are in good condition, but have to take it slower the more their tyres deteriorate. This naturally affects the entry speed into the Peraltada.
Unfortunately, this design destroys about a dozen football fields and two baseball diamonds, so it's unlikely to happen.
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ITCC_Andrew
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I love that there's already a race track inside your race track...
EDIT: there are actually like five, and a drag strip!Otherwise, that looks pretty cool. I noticed that there're ways to shorten it, for some WTCC action, and I think that the WTCC would definitely run there, if the track weren't 6+ km long.
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I was thinking more Formula 1 than WTCC. Personally, I think the WTCC is a joke.
ITCC_Andrew
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"This racing series brought to you by Chevy. Come watch us win every race of the WTCC series, because every one else has old, slow cars, that can't keep up. Watch as we take jobs from the Canadians in Oshawa, and give them to Americans! AND THE CHINESE! Because the Canadians definitely have enough jobs."
I really hate Chevy, especially for the fact that, in case you don't know, I live in Canada, but, they're taking all the jobs elsewhere. We already have a huge shortage of work in Canada... And Chevy's making it worse by sending jobs overseas, even though they claim "Every Corvette is made in America."
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Actually, that's got nothing to do with it.
I think the WTCC is a joke because the races are so short. They are run to the first lap over 50km when most other touring car series regularly do twice as much (and often more). It's at the point where the WTCC support races - like AutoGP - are longer than the WTCC races themselves.
I think the WTCC is a joke because the races are so short. They are run to the first lap over 50km when most other touring car series regularly do twice as much (and often more). It's at the point where the WTCC support races - like AutoGP - are longer than the WTCC races themselves.
ITCC_Andrew
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Well, in my Touring car series (ITCC) we run three races. Races 1 and 2 are long enough for one pit stop, and then we run a sprint, without pit stops at all/
And, it's a fun little series.
Perhaps it's not always necessary to run 24 hour races to have fun?
Just an idea, not trashing your opinion.
I think that the WTCC races would be much more interesting, if there was actually a chance for any manufacturer to win.
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They can start by actually running longer races.
Anyway, I didn't design the Ħal Far circut for WTCC. They could race there, of course, but it's not a WTCC exclusive. Ħal Far is more for Formula 1, GT racing, sports cars, and series like V8 Supercars, DTM and SuperGT.
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ITCC_Andrew
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Dutch guy designs a track in Schipol. Not stereotypical?
Otherwise, both Schipol and the first of the three look pretty cool. 👍
The second one is a little confusing. Could you maybe please expand, to add a different colour scheme to the available tracks you would make out of it, and show which direction it would go in?
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Dutch guy designs a track in Schipol. Not stereotypical?
Otherwise, both Schipol and the first of the three look pretty cool. 👍
The second one is a little confusing. Could you maybe please expand, to add a different colour scheme to the available tracks you would make out of it, and show which direction it would go in?
I'm not Dutch. I'm from everywhere. These days. I was in The Netherlands when I set my location, so I just put it as that.
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Behold - The Snowy Hell
A 51 mile long Swiss road course using highways to connect the cities of Visp, Staldenreid, Torbel, Unterbach, Eistcholl, and Turtmann.
The Swiss say they drive these roads to work and school every day, but try doing it while constantly accelerating to speeds over 100 miles an hour, and when there's a menacing 4 wheel drive machine on your tail, hunting down its next victim. This is the Snowy Hell, where every moving part, every corner, every driver, throws all the money in the pot to walk away victorious, or with the bitter, bitter taste of defeat.
Alright, enough of the exaggerated pep talk, this is a course I made based on the Alps in Switzerland. Here are the main sectors.
Part 1 - Visp to the main road.
Starting in the city off Visp, the drivers take to the thin mountain road where hairpins are common, and quarter mile stretches are in between each.
Part 2 - Staldenreid and Togel
After a few miles of mountain road, the drivers make a brief appearance in the town of Staldenreid in the mountain valley. They make several quick 90 degree turns and continue down the highway until they reach a bridge going over the deepest part of the valley, making a sharp hairpin and taking back to the mountain road, where they soon drive the perimeter of the town of Togel, where fans cheer them on as they head back to the tight roads of this daunting trail.
Part 3 - Burchen, Unterbach, Eistcholl
After a few more miles of tight, weaving mountain trail, the drivers hit a fairly high speed section mainly consisting of long, speedy bends. They zoom by the city of Burchen, looking nothing more than a glimpse in their window, but fans eagerly watch as the cars navigate the tight section just North of the small town. A section of sweeping bends, some hairpins, and a long high speed section speeding by Unterbach, a couple decent speed turns, and then the high speeds continue as the drivers plow through Eistcholl.
Part 4 - Turtmann and Kantonsstrasse back to Visp
The sequence of bends continues through the mountain wilderness until taking a handful of tight hairpins to slow them down on the way to Turtmann. Now, the mountain portion of the course is over, as the track cuts through the heart of Turtmann and on to Kantonsstrasse, where the cars get a feeling for flat highway road for the first time. In the middle of the straightaway, the drivers take a series of chicanes onto a back street to avoid intersecting with the main road to the mountain portion. the stretch continues when the drivers must take two sharp 90 degree right handers to complete their lap of torture.
NO TL;DRs, DR;TLs OR ANYTHING LIKE IT.
So that's the swiss course I've been plotting for an hour now. Thoughts?
A 51 mile long Swiss road course using highways to connect the cities of Visp, Staldenreid, Torbel, Unterbach, Eistcholl, and Turtmann.
The Swiss say they drive these roads to work and school every day, but try doing it while constantly accelerating to speeds over 100 miles an hour, and when there's a menacing 4 wheel drive machine on your tail, hunting down its next victim. This is the Snowy Hell, where every moving part, every corner, every driver, throws all the money in the pot to walk away victorious, or with the bitter, bitter taste of defeat.
Alright, enough of the exaggerated pep talk, this is a course I made based on the Alps in Switzerland. Here are the main sectors.
Part 1 - Visp to the main road.
Starting in the city off Visp, the drivers take to the thin mountain road where hairpins are common, and quarter mile stretches are in between each.
Part 2 - Staldenreid and Togel
After a few miles of mountain road, the drivers make a brief appearance in the town of Staldenreid in the mountain valley. They make several quick 90 degree turns and continue down the highway until they reach a bridge going over the deepest part of the valley, making a sharp hairpin and taking back to the mountain road, where they soon drive the perimeter of the town of Togel, where fans cheer them on as they head back to the tight roads of this daunting trail.
Part 3 - Burchen, Unterbach, Eistcholl
After a few more miles of tight, weaving mountain trail, the drivers hit a fairly high speed section mainly consisting of long, speedy bends. They zoom by the city of Burchen, looking nothing more than a glimpse in their window, but fans eagerly watch as the cars navigate the tight section just North of the small town. A section of sweeping bends, some hairpins, and a long high speed section speeding by Unterbach, a couple decent speed turns, and then the high speeds continue as the drivers plow through Eistcholl.
Part 4 - Turtmann and Kantonsstrasse back to Visp
The sequence of bends continues through the mountain wilderness until taking a handful of tight hairpins to slow them down on the way to Turtmann. Now, the mountain portion of the course is over, as the track cuts through the heart of Turtmann and on to Kantonsstrasse, where the cars get a feeling for flat highway road for the first time. In the middle of the straightaway, the drivers take a series of chicanes onto a back street to avoid intersecting with the main road to the mountain portion. the stretch continues when the drivers must take two sharp 90 degree right handers to complete their lap of torture.
NO TL;DRs, DR;TLs OR ANYTHING LIKE IT.
So that's the swiss course I've been plotting for an hour now. Thoughts?
ITCC_Andrew
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Wow... Pretty long. Were you thinking of running it as a rally stage as part of a larger Rallye de la Suisse? (I realize that it's in the German side of Switzerland, but, nevertheless, it sounds cool in French.)
Otherwise, I hope you weren't thinking that the FIA or anyone would allow it. It's 46 miles too long.
Otherwise, in terms of just experimenting, good job. It looks intriguing.
Otherwise, I hope you weren't thinking that the FIA or anyone would allow it. It's 46 miles too long.
Otherwise, in terms of just experimenting, good job. It looks intriguing.
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Wow... Pretty long. Were you thinking of running it as a rally stage as part of a larger Rallye de la Suisse? (I realize that it's in the German side of Switzerland, but, nevertheless, it sounds cool in French.)
Otherwise, I hope you weren't thinking that the FIA or anyone would allow it. It's 46 miles too long.
Otherwise, in terms of just experimenting, good job. It looks intriguing.
Maybe the swiss could hold a private endurance? 10 laps of that on TV
.And the cars would have to be 4WD, and the intro would be the one in the beginning of the post
ITCC_Andrew
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Oh yeah, I just remembered, the Swiss banned motorsports in their country:
As a result of this (link)
Read under the "After the Race" section
As a result of this (link)
Read under the "After the Race" section
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88deathguyMaybe the swiss could hold a private endurance? 10 laps of that on TV
And the cars would have to be 4WD, and the intro would be the one in the beginning of the post
I'm afraid it would never happen unless the Swiss government changes the law as they have banned all Motorsport after the famous crash at Le Mans. It's a shame because the Swiss have some of the best driving roads in the world.
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Try designing a similar course, but put it in a country where motorsports isn't illegal. eg. France, China, The Moon, Corneria, A Small Planet Somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse etc.
ITCC_Andrew
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+1. You sure you aren't Dutch? You have the same good, proper sense of humour...
Bizarrely I'm not actually a citizen of any country.
I have Dutch ancestry though.
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Maybe it would be like the Cannonball Run?
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Yeah or smokey and the bandit
