Captain America: Civil War

[andrea]

Fight!

Following the events of Age of Ultron, the collective governments of the world pass an act designed to regulate all superhuman activity. This polarizes opinion amongst the Avengers, causing two factions to side with Iron Man or Captain America, which causes an epic battle between former allies.

Starring:
Steve Rogers/Captain America
Tony Stark/Iron Man
Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow
Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier
Sam Wilson/Falcon
Paul Bettany as The Vision
Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Jim Rhodes/War Machine
Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch
Scott Lang/Ant-Man
T’Challa/Black Panther
Sharon Carter/Agent 13
Brock Rumlow/Crossbones
William Hurt as General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross
Peter Parker/Spiderman
Daniel Brühl as Baron Zemo
Martin Freeman as ?

I think that after the events of Civil War Captain America is no more - either dead or retired, possibly taking on the Nomad name. That film is very much setting up the Infinity War in a big, big way. After Ragnarok Thor is also out of the picture. The Hulk will remain missing or will pop up offworld. Cap's side will have lost the CIvil War, so maybe Black Widow and Nick Fury have gone deep, deep underground. Considering his general nature and the storyline of his solo movie, Ant-Man would also be on Cap's side if he's in Civil War, so he and the Wasp could join the spies on the lam. Iron Man is running the show when Infinity War Part I happens... and everything goes bad. It isn't until Part II that all the big guns come back, teaming up with the new kids like Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, Captain Marvel and a whole slew of Inhumans, to take down Thanos and save the universe.

The Iron Man armor in the concept art is "Bleeding Edge"

This entire armor is kept inside Tony's body until mentally commanded, at which point it manifests itself as the Iron Man Armor. It can go toe to toe with Thor and savagely beat an amped Red Hulk. Its power source has been described as a man made star. The armor is made up of Nano-Machines that can now be commanded to turn into any type of structure upon Stark's skin. For example, the nano-machines can turn into clothes, other armors, or even different beings completely, by having the nano-machines change their properties into whatever Stark wants them to be. It can also dissociate to transform into the Iron Man armor whenever Stark wishes. The armor and Stark's own transhuman body are powered by the high-yield R.T. node mounted in his chest. The high output of the node has greatly augmented Stark's intelligence and provided him with superhuman-level multitasking and learning capabilities.

Unlike earlier armors, this new armor does not appear to rely on motors and servos for motion. Instead, the nano-machines create a second layer of artificial muscle over Stark's body, upon which additional structures are assembled. This also enables the armor to self-repair and be almost invulnerable, as the armor is capable of transforming and healing itself, by having the constantly replicating nano-machines replace anything that is lost or used, as long as the power output from the arc reactor isn't interrupted or terminated.

The neurokinetic user-controlled morphologic nanoparticle bundles that form the suit reside in Stark's body, and form a fibrous wetweb of iron and platinum, that can be commanded to form any type of structure upon Stark's skin, from weaponry to clothing, and can even stop a howitzer shell.

Known weaponry includes repulsors, uni-beam, pulse bolts, tasers, and an energy blade. Defenses include deflector shields. Other type of weapons and upgrades seems to be created by Stark's imagination, such as a boxing glove, large guns extending from his arms, or cannons.

The suit's repulsors, which are located around the knuckles, chest, back and legs of the armor, as well as in the traditional palms, now function also as cameras, or "eyeballs", which afford Stark a 360-degree panoramic view around himself. Temporarily replacing the suit's primary composite - iron/platinum - with carbon nanotubes rendered it unaffectable by Magneto's powers when he and Iron Man engaged in combat over Utopia.

 

[andrea]

Marvel.com reports that Martin Freeman has joined the cast.

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige had this to say:

From his roles as Bilbo Baggins and Doctor Watson to Tim in 'The Office,' Martin's range from the dramatic to the comedic has consistently impressed us. We couldn't be more honored or excited to have such a talented actor join the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

[JKgo]

....Wow, so soon?

AoU has only just begun, ya know.

In many ways the CA: CW feels more like The Avengers 2.5, doesn't it. And after the surprisingly good Winter Soldier, I'm very much looking forward to this!!

Oh by the way,

In Captain America: Civil War (dir. Russo brothers) Bucky Barnes, a.k.a. The Winter Soldier, killed Howard Stark, which will lead to a major fight between Iron Man and Captain America.

Where did ya get this info? Did the script get leaked or something?

 

[andrea]

Scrap that.

I get that Civil War would bring in a lot of cameos (Avengers 2.5), but since the plan for Infinity War is so specific - a lot of the name brand Avengers will not be in Part I - I don't see Marvel just shoehorning everybody in here.

 

[JKgo]

....'Course not. I know Banner's not gonna be in it (Spoilers!), So's Thor. Basically two over-powered bad boys of MCU is not in it. I don't think Strange will be in it either.

Wait, just when is the good Doctor making his cinematic debut?? It is before the Civil War, right?

If not, well.....oh go ahead, just shoot me...

 

[andrea]

Scott Derrickson is directing the feature film Doctor Strange, and Marvel will release it on November 4th, 2016. He might make an appearance in Marvel’s Iron Fist Netflix series. This is just a rumor for now.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Scrap that.

I get that Civil War would bring in a lot of cameos (Avengers 2.5), but since the plan for Infinity War is so specific - a lot of the name brand Avengers will not be in Part I - I don't see Marvel just shoehorning everybody in here.

Only except the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy. I did hear rumors that Marvel is bringing the Netflix characters into Infinity War, so Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones is all but confirmed for an film appearance.

 

[andrea]

Cap's suit.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I get that Civil War would bring in a lot of cameos (Avengers 2.5), but since the plan for Infinity War is so specific - a lot of the name brand Avengers will not be in Part I - I don't see Marvel just shoehorning everybody in here.

I think that there needs to be at least two of the original Avengers in IW1. They need one to anchor the franchise - I think audiences would reject it without at least one of them - and another to kill off so they can sell Thanos as a genuine threat to the world.

 

[andrea]

Civil War has officially started production. Also, Ant-Man has been confirmed for Civil War.

The film returns Chris Evans (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” Marvel’s “Avengers: Age of Ultron”) as the iconic Super Hero character Steve Rogers/Captain America along with Robert Downey Jr. (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” Marvel’s “Iron Man 3”) as Tony Stark/Iron Man, Scarlett Johansson (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”) as Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, Sebastian Stan (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Captain America: The First Avenger”) as Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier, Anthony Mackie (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”) as Sam Wilson/Falcon, Paul Bettany (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Iron Man 3”) as The Vision, Jeremy Renner (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” Marvel’s “The Avengers”) as Clint Barton/Hawkeye, Don Cheadle (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Iron Man 3”) as Jim Rhodes/War Machine and Elizabeth Olsen (“Avengers: Age of Ultron,” “Godzilla”) as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch.

After his debut in Marvel’s “Ant-Man” on July 17, 2015, Paul Rudd (“Ant-Man,” ”Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues”) will make his first appearance alongside the Avengers as Scott Lang/Ant-Man in “Captain America: Civil War.”

The film also includes outstanding additional cast, including Chadwick Boseman (“42,” “Get on Up”) as T’Challa/Black Panther, Emily VanCamp (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Revenge”) as Sharon Carter/Agent 13, Daniel Brühl (“Inglourious Basterds,” “Bourne Ultimatum”), Frank Grillo (“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” “Warrior”) as Brock Rumlow/Crossbones, William Hurt (“A History of Violence,” Marvel’s “The Incredible Hulk”) as General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross and Martin Freeman (“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies”).

 

[andrea]

Since Ant-Man has been confirmed this so needs to happen

 

[JKgo]

....Yup, Avengers 2.5.....

 

[GTboyz]

Now i see why Anthony Mackie called this one Avengers 3.8

It feels bigger than the Avengers.

 

[Maldoxx]

Scott Lang is alive in the Civil War movie, interesting. Anyway, if Marvel doesn't make anything stupid, this movie is going to beat Age Of Ultron in quality.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

This is where I have to agree with @prisonermonkeys on a past comment he had about the entire marvel universe. And my issue with this single iteration that I've been wrestling with for a year...and it simply comes down to there aint no xmen...

Yes in other words the idea of the Civil war in the Universes that covered it was the hero registration act and a way for Gov't to monitor said heroes and keep them in check more so as some (Cap) would come to see it. The problem is the Mutants play a big aspect, and probably the biggest reason Disney wanted to get Spider-Man back in the stable and why Feige has publicly said how much he wants X-Men back recently, more so than ever.

I feel this is one of those times where this is the only story that works based on how it was originally crafted, similar to the secret wars but with less wiggle room for movie interpretation. And realistically Marvel Cinematic has already shown times of Capt. and Iron Man not seeing eye to eye setting up the ground work to them obviously not agreeing to such a critical Act that impacts on their lives.

 

[05XR8]

If X-men cross over at the same time as Spidey, do F4 come with that deal?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

If X-men cross over at the same time as Spidey, do F4 come with that deal?

I didn't see anything really on the F4 and to be honest it would matter quite a bit considering how big an impact Reed plays (just like Bruce) on Tony/Iron Man's actions in many arcs through Marvel. This being a crucial one but then again Mighty Avengers and the Illuminati are also big turning points that involve both. So to be honest I think they want to see if they can get the X-Men then go from there.

Either that or they just tell their own story form the cinematic world where the only controlled Genius level super hero reigns supreme, thus Tony Stark. This is why Reed and Strange need to be brought in sooner than later.

 

[FoolKiller]

....'Course not. I know Banner's not gonna be in it (Spoilers!), So's Thor. Basically two over-powered bad boys of MCU is not in it.

Neither were in the comics either. Hulk was in space doing his Planet Hulk thing and Thor had disappeared. Stark built a Thor Cyborg, though. This cyborg believed itself to be Thor and went on to be one of Thor's villains, calling himself Ragnarok, which also happens to be the sub-title of the next Thor film. As to what kind of Thor-based influence we see in Civil War will be based on if Thor: Ragnarok refers to the character or the Norse mythological end of the world. Based on some things in AoU I lean toward the character, but it was ambiguous enough to be either.

I don't think Strange will be in it either.

Wait, just when is the good Doctor making his cinematic debut?? It is before the Civil War, right?

It's after Civil War, but close enough that there might be a tie-in.

Scott Derrickson is directing the feature film Doctor Strange, and Marvel will release it on November 4th, 2016. He might make an appearance in Marvel’s Iron Fist Netflix series. This is just a rumor for now.

I expect that he might play a role in the end of Iron Fist (the last of four Netflix series) and set up The Defenders mini series. It would be odd to have The Defenders without Dr. Strange, but if it is just one long story then he could just show up in an episode, or even just through some mystical communication while Iron Fist is meditating in order to get things rolling.

I think that there needs to be at least two of the original Avengers in IW1. They need one to anchor the franchise - I think audiences would reject it without at least one of them - and another to kill off so they can sell Thanos as a genuine threat to the world.

Wipe out half the population of the universe. Odds are that means half of any Avengers that are present.

Scott Lang is alive in the Civil War movie, interesting.

The Ant Man film will be Scott Lang. They are taking a different approach to the character in the films than in the comics.

This is where I have to agree with @prisonermonkeys on a past comment he had about the entire marvel universe. And my issue with this single iteration that I've been wrestling with for a year...and it simply comes down to there aint no xmen...

If they stick to the main storyline then there is no need for X-Men. The X-Men declared neutrality. Yes, they had their own side story, which made them very important, but the main story did not feature them.

Yes in other words the idea of the Civil war in the Universes that covered it was the hero registration act and a way for Gov't to monitor said heroes and keep them in check more so as some (Cap) would come to see it. The problem is the Mutants play a big aspect, and probably the biggest reason Disney wanted to get Spider-Man back in the stable and why Feige has publicly said how much he wants X-Men back recently, more so than ever.

This is why they have presented the Inhumans in Agents of SHIELD already. I mean, literally calling them Inhumans at this point. Stuff is getting ready to go down in a big way that I can see playing a part in human/enhanced relations.

One of the aspects that they have brought in with Inhumans is the fact that some cannot be trusted with their powers, most are unable to control them when they first get them, emotions can cause them to lose control, and many innocent people can be hurt if they are not dealt with properly.

As it is going, they are setting up Inhumans as a pretty good mutant replacement. Most notably is that

Spoiler

In Age of Ultron Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were the results of Hydra experimentation. Experimentation which Agents of SHILED revealed to be the results of forced testing on Inhumans.

While comic fans might miss a specific character or three, the story itself will still have someone to fill that role.

 

[JKgo]

@FoolKiller

If not, well.....oh go ahead, just shoot me...

...Redux.

To be honest, I'm not a.....ahem, Marvel guy. Didn't know what was happening in Civil War story line to begin with.

.....Go, BVS!! (Just kidding. Honest.)

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

If they stick to the main storyline then there is no need for X-Men. The X-Men declared neutrality. Yes, they had their own side story, which made them very important, but the main story did not feature them.


This is why they have presented the Inhumans in Agents of SHIELD already. I mean, literally calling them Inhumans at this point. Stuff is getting ready to go down in a big way that I can see playing a part in human/enhanced relations.

One of the aspects that they have brought in with Inhumans is the fact that some cannot be trusted with their powers, most are unable to control them when they first get them, emotions can cause them to lose control, and many innocent people can be hurt if they are not dealt with properly.

As it is going, they are setting up Inhumans as a pretty good mutant replacement. Most notably is that

I have to be honest, I'm not aware of anything from Agent Carter or SHIELD...I haven't had the time to watch that stuff due to University work I've been doing. So you'll have to forgive me of my ignorance when it comes to where those fall in the Marvel Universe.

And yes I know the X-Men had their own story and so did many others like F4 and Strange with House of M: Civil War but at the end of the day it all wrapped up into the same tree of issue, which was the registration act and all culminated in being apart of the same story even if parts were told in the actual Civil War series and subsequently their own respective series at the same time. The problem is you would get cross over of Spider man in his story dealing with the Civil war and then also being in the Civil War stories of Capt/Iron Man.

Same for all the other characters really. That's why I see it important.

As for the Inhumans, they had their own major story that I feel was separate from the Civil War which was the Silent War (I'm a big Black Bolt fan). And a direct fight against the U.S. over what could be said was the same over-reach of power that caused the Civil War. Which I doubt will be covered.

In the end it's a deep story with a lot to cover and I think it will be hard to replicate it all too differently from origin. I think the way they are trying to do it though is a great attempt and it has to be to build up to probably the final epic and that being Thanos a few years from now.

 

[FoolKiller]

I have to be honest, I'm not aware of anything from Agent Carter or SHIELD...I haven't had the time to watch that stuff due to University work I've been doing. So you'll have to forgive me of my ignorance when it comes to where those fall in the Marvel Universe.

Agent Carter has not done a whole lot for the story, as far as I can tell. Agents though interacts directly with the movies' storylines, to the point that the last episode of Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron directly led into the opening scene of the movie and the next episode taking place directly after the movie and having changes already apparent due to the events in the film. It's not important to see it, but it is kind of like the small footnotes at the bottom of comic frames.

Anyway, in regard to Civil War, al you need to know about Agents of SHIELD is that there has been a whole lot of talk about "indexing" those with enhanced abilities and some are none to pleased with that aspect.

And yes I know the X-Men had their own story and so did many others like F4 and Strange with House of M: Civil War but at the end of the day it all wrapped up into the same tree of issue, which was the registration act and all culminated in being apart of the same story even if parts were told in the actual Civil War series and subsequently their own respective series at the same time. The problem is you would get cross over of Spider man in his story dealing with the Civil war and then also being in the Civil War stories of Capt/Iron Man.

Same for all the other characters really. That's why I see it important.

If the story is just the main Cap/Iron Man storyline then the X-Men were not important other than a brief mention in Civil War #3 that they were claiming neutrality and staying in Canada. Spiderman is still important in that main storyline because he is a major part of the main storyline events, on top of his own side story. If you truly want to incorporate all these different parts then Civil War needs many moremovies. There are 30-something side stories and/or miniseries that branch off from Civil War. As this is supposedly focusing on CA and IM then X-Men have zero role to play in that storyline.

As for the Inhumans, they had their own major story that I feel was separate from the Civil War which was the Silent War (I'm a big Black Bolt fan). And a direct fight against the U.S. over what could be said was the same over-reach of power that caused the Civil War. Which I doubt will be covered.

The MCU is using Inhumans in place of mutants, as Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to mutants. Right now all that has been established is that there is a human/Kree hybrid that was developed long ago as a Kree weapon, but abandoned. It was considered dangerous enough that a Kree came to Earth to try to kill a character in AoS after detecting that they had been exposed to the Terrigen Mists. The mainstays, such as Black Bolt, are not known about, nor is Attilan. All that has been shown is a safe haven known as Afterlife and only five characters have been identified, only one who has a known comic counterpart. That counterpart was not an Inhuman in the comics. One character shares similar traits to Lockjaw, if Lockjaw were humanoid. Some think he might be an early form of Uatu, but that seems very unlikely to me.

Point is, as of right now the Inhumans are only being used to explain why so many people on Earth have powers without having mutants. They are the replacement for mutants. They are very, very far from anything related to Silent War.

Besides, hoping that the MCU, or Earth-199999 is the same as Earth-616 this far in is kind of pointless.

 

[Sanji Himura]

In regards to Dr. Strange, he hasn't been formally been casted yet, the last time I checked. Besides that, the Iron Fist Netflix series is supposed to be the first appearance of the character in the MCU

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Agent Carter has not done a whole lot for the story, as far as I can tell. Agents though interacts directly with the movies' storylines, to the point that the last episode of Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron directly led into the opening scene of the movie and the next episode taking place directly after the movie and having changes already apparent due to the events in the film. It's not important to see it, but it is kind of like the small footnotes at the bottom of comic frames.

Anyway, in regard to Civil War, al you need to know about Agents of SHIELD is that there has been a whole lot of talk about "indexing" those with enhanced abilities and some are none to pleased with that aspect.


If the story is just the main Cap/Iron Man storyline then the X-Men were not important other than a brief mention in Civil War #3 that they were claiming neutrality and staying in Canada. Spiderman is still important in that main storyline because he is a major part of the main storyline events, on top of his own side story. If you truly want to incorporate all these different parts then Civil War needs many moremovies. There are 30-something side stories and/or miniseries that branch off from Civil War. As this is supposedly focusing on CA and IM then X-Men have zero role to play in that storyline.


The MCU is using Inhumans in place of mutants, as Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to mutants. Right now all that has been established is that there is a human/Kree hybrid that was developed long ago as a Kree weapon, but abandoned. It was considered dangerous enough that a Kree came to Earth to try to kill a character in AoS after detecting that they had been exposed to the Terrigen Mists. The mainstays, such as Black Bolt, are not known about, nor is Attilan. All that has been shown is a safe haven known as Afterlife and only five characters have been identified, only one who has a known comic counterpart. That counterpart was not an Inhuman in the comics. One character shares similar traits to Lockjaw, if Lockjaw were humanoid. Some think he might be an early form of Uatu, but that seems very unlikely to me.

Point is, as of right now the Inhumans are only being used to explain why so many people on Earth have powers without having mutants. They are the replacement for mutants. They are very, very far from anything related to Silent War.

Besides, hoping that the MCU, or Earth-199999 is the same as Earth-616 this far in is kind of pointless.

If you look at my comments on Age of Ultron, you'll see that I'm purely (well for the most part) of the idea that the two Universes are vastly different and each their original story and no one should expect a Harry Potter or LOTR play by play of any story arc or miniseries or graphic novel and so on from Marvel. But instead that universes very own version of the same event that is unfolding across the many universes at the same time with this ripple effect.

As for the rest, I figured quickly enough that the inhumans were a mutant replacement when you said what you did in the prior comment. Though I still feel Fox should do what Sony did if they're smart and get a piece of the pie by giving shared rights back, since I feel both inhumans and mutants share different roles to the same story that help tell it.

Then again the average movie fan watching these may be to confused as the movies are building a character base number that is quite staggering and will be greatly so by the time Thanos battle comes around.

 

[FoolKiller]

Fox isn't struggling to make their X-films be decent quality. I am surprised we got Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Fox isn't struggling to make their X-films be decent quality. I am surprised we got Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Their main issue is that they have created a mismatched timeline where it took several movies to create a coherent timeline.

Still the MCU will say that the Maximoff twins are inhumans, since Peidro fathered one in the comics.

 

[FoolKiller]

Still the MCU will say that the Maximoff twins are inhumans, since Peidro fathered one in the comics.

Not quite.

Spoiler

It is already established they were scientifically enhanced by Hydra, using their knowledge of Kree/Inhuman abilities and the energy available from Loki's staff. An Inhuman requires terrigen mist or crystals, but then the Inhumans know when that occurs.

 

[JKgo]

In regards to Dr. Strange, he hasn't been formally been casted yet, the last time I checked.

......Here you go. 👍

Scroll down to his filmography. The third item on the list.

 

[Maldoxx]

......Here you go. 👍

Scroll down to his filmography. The third item on the list.

Any ideas of who is going to play Dormammu?

 

[JKgo]

Any ideas of who is going to play Dormammu?

....For now, no one else has signed on the dotted line. Rumor floating around says a certain gifted Brit {shhh, whisper it, Chiwetel Ejiofor} is being courted by the execs.

Oh, and, here's something else to pique your interests...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Ejiofor would need some comvincing:

Spoiler

EON Productions originally envisioned an African re-imagining of Ernst Stavro Blofeld for the upcoming Spectre, and Ejiofor was touted as the one and only actor they wanted, but he wasn't interested. The script was rewritten and they made a second run at casting him, this time as Denbigh, a secondary character, but still couldn't get him.