Captain America: Civil War

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Age of Ultron will probably be the most required given the tension between Tony & Rodgers in it. Haven't seen Ant Man yet myself, & I don't think The Dark World really has any relevance besides may be one or two references to the whole group?
 
Age of Ultron will probably be the most required given the tension between Tony & Rodgers in it. Haven't seen Ant Man yet myself, & I don't think The Dark World really has any relevance besides may be one or two references to the whole group?
Thor isn't in Civil War so The Dark World has no relevance to the film.

Thor will be on Asgard fighting Ragnarok during the Civil War.
 
Ant-Man's stinger ties directly into Civil War, but other than Scott Lang being in the new movie, I don't imagine you need detailed knowledge of Ant-Man's solo film.
 
Ant-Man's stinger ties directly into Civil War, but other than Scott Lang being in the new movie, I don't imagine you need detailed knowledge of Ant-Man's solo film.
Marvel have been good at balancing the continuity between films - you don't need to have seen one to understand the others. That's the issue I have always had with comics - I have Scott Snyder's run of Batman comics (The Court of Owls, Night of the Owls, Death of the Family, Secret City, Dark City, Graveyard Shift and Endgame), but sometimes events in other titles have a direct impact on them; the Joker has no face in Death of the Family, but that was an incident in Detective Comics Vol. 1, and confusing at the time.
 
Think about it this way, Fury made one statement in The Avengers that linked all the movies.

[SPOILER="]Because of Thor's selfishness, he was banished to earth. This triggered SHIELD to step up their weaponry. "[/SPOILER]

All movies are necessary. In my opinion.
 
All of the movies are connected and to fully appreciate the story are required.

To enjoy the movies all are not required.

We watched Ant-Man with my family, oldest daughter the only one that hasn't seem Cap 2 or Ultron, she enjoyed it just fine, but the rest of us got almost all of the in jokes, comments, etc. We knew where it was coming from and where it was going. She just liked the movie on it's own merits.

Back in the day she watched the Marvel movies with me. She's "outgrown" that now, even though her fiance is as much of a comic movie nerd as I am.
 
the main question has been how much we'd see Spidey in Cap 3, not if.

...Surely it's gotta be more than a post-credit stinger.

Honestly I can't see Marvel doing the whole Spidey origin story in a Cap movie, but if it's something like that infamous scene from "Mummy Returns" where Oded Fehr's character pops out of nowhere and shouts "I've arrived to help YOU!!" then I'm throwing my toys out.

But then, Spiderman's inclusion was at a fairly advanced stage of the movie's development so I wonder just how prepared Marvel's creative team was for this eventuality...
 
Honestly I can't see Marvel doing the whole Spidey origin story in a Cap movie,
Marvel has stated that because they did Peter's origin story twice, they are not going to retread the origin story a third time for the MCU. Think of what I just said to how they are treating Batman in Batman v. Superman. Everybody knows his origin story, no need to revisit it just because a new actor has stepped into the role.
 
Everybody knows his origin story

...[citation needed] :P

Hey, never say never - DC might decide to gift us with one you know. Oh wait, wasn't there a rumor of Jeffrey Dean Morgan playing Wayans Wayne's Senior in flashback sequence? Well, there's your origin story. Possibly.

Anyways, even if I say "no origin story" for Spidey, it'd make some sense to include how he came to be. I'm all up for a passing mention, maybe a line or two spoken by an Avenger.
I'm simply not okay with a sudden, unannounced intrusion of the character, that's all.
 
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Hey, never say never - DC might decide to gift us with one you know. Oh wait, wasn't there a rumor of Jeffrey Dean Morgan playing Wayans Senior in flashback sequence? Well, there's your origin story. Possibly.
Actually, that is true. Forgot about that. Anyways, we had one version of Batman's origin where they were killed by the man who became the Joker, and another that has a no name thug, possibly from the Falcone crime family, who did the deed. We never actually had one who the actual killer was Joe Chill.
 
Actually, that is true. Forgot about that. Anyways, we had one version of Batman's origin where they were killed by the man who became the Joker, and another that has a no name thug, possibly from the Falcone crime family, who did the deed. We never actually had one who the actual killer was Joe Chill.
Nolan-Batman was Joe Chill...
 
Joe Chill

...Oi dude, in Nolan's Batman Begins, it was Joe Chill who whacked Wayan's Wayne's family. (That sounded weird, but whatever).

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Okay, technically you could argue it was L.O.S. but the one who pulled the trigger was Mr. Chill after all...
 
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It's Wayne not Wayans.

Wayans are these guys :

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...:embarrassed:

Fixed those embarrassing mistakes. It's funny (and sad) how I've never noticed the name's proper spelling until now.




I just wanna crawl inside a cave and die...:boggled:
 
i wanna joke about how the Waynes and Wayans share a similiarity but it's kinda wrong and would get me banned i guess lol
 
Keeping Spidey under wraps I see.

I'm not the biggest comic book fan but isn't having Vision on your team abit unfair?
 
Not when his wife is on the opposite team, not that I expect that to happen in the MCU.
She gave him a suggestive look when he saved her in Age of Ultron.

But to your point, knowing that under the right conditions Scarlet Witch can alter space and time in ways to make the Infinity Gauntlet cry does add a bit of an advantage to her team.
 
While I agree with the sentiment that the Vision is supremely over-powered (in theory), it brings up an issue that's starting to creep into the movies: there's so much imbalance. Vision is supposed to be the "perfect" evolution of Ultron, but if anything, Ultron had his number in his movie, until he got help from Iron Man and Thor (and then it was only the Hulk that finished the job). The witch has the capacity for some serious mayhem, but so far she just gives people nightmares.

I imagine those two will be paired off with any skirmishes, because otherwise, things start to look lop-sided. I'm also fully expecting Vision to end the movie disgusted by all the human in-fighting, and travel off-world. That gem in his head has a date, after all...
 
While I agree with the sentiment that the Vision is supremely over-powered (in theory), it brings up an issue that's starting to creep into the movies: there's so much imbalance. Vision is supposed to be the "perfect" evolution of Ultron, but if anything, Ultron had his number in his movie, until he got help from Iron Man and Thor (and then it was only the Hulk that finished the job). The witch has the capacity for some serious mayhem, but so far she just gives people nightmares.

I imagine those two will be paired off with any skirmishes, because otherwise, things start to look lop-sided. I'm also fully expecting Vision to end the movie disgusted by all the human in-fighting, and travel off-world. That gem in his head has a date, after all...

Within your problem you ended up mentioning a problem I have with the movies thus far: Hulk. Is he that powerful? Without a doubt. My problem is that he's being portrayed to have no equal and that just isn't the case. Sure, there was the tussle with Thor that was left undecided as well as the Hulkbuster which knocked out a Hulk that was no longer raging... but those were all heavily circumstantial.

The only saving grace is my assumption that he's being portrayed the way that he is so...

When Thanos hands him his ass (with or without the Infinity Gauntlet, it doesn't matter) it will be all the more impacting.
 
Within your problem you ended up mentioning a problem I have with the movies thus far: Hulk. Is he that powerful? Without a doubt. My problem is that he's being portrayed to have no equal and that just isn't the case. Sure, there was the tussle with Thor that was left undecided as well as the Hulkbuster which knocked out a Hulk that was no longer raging... but those were all heavily circumstantial.

The only saving grace is my assumption that he's being portrayed the way that he is so...

When Thanos hands him his ass (with or without the Infinity Gauntlet, it doesn't matter) it will be all the more impacting.

Probably, if it were Hulk without Banner then no he shouldn't have an equal unless it's a full blown cosmic tier persona like HoU Thanos or IG Thanos. The way Hulk is as of now he should have some equal or equals.
 
Spiderman, Spiderman, Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman!

As much as I liked Andrew Garfields spiderman, that costume, the noise and everything about that was Spidey as I remember. I just hope they keep it that way. And PLEASE, don't change him again.
 
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