Cars you thought you GREAT but ended up being CRAP!

[C-ZETA]

Besides, the driving aids make the mission difficult.

Not to mention the tyres: they put you on comfort tyres, front and rear for every single mission that involves a road car, and for racers, they put on super hards front and rear! It's just ridiculous!

 

[Watchman]

Not to mention the tyres: they put you on comfort tyres, front and rear for every single mission that involves a road car, and for racers, they put on super hards front and rear! It's just ridiculous!

That's why we need to brake miiileees before the corner

 

[Parnelli Bone]

The worse car in GT4, for me, is the Caterham. Its not really the cars fault though, I'll give you a little background. Couple years ago, I was watching this strange little British show on SPEED, you probably heard of it, 5th Gear. Anyways, they had this large bloke on there, racing in his first amateur race in a roadster call a Caterham 7, I think. I quite enjoyed it. Later on, while playing GT4, I was needing that something "special" for one of the series I was going to do. Thats when I came across this gem of a car. But wait, it cost 70G's, and I was a little short. So, like everyone else, I raced and saved, and raced and saved until I finally had enough credits to purchase the car, and boy was I happy. Then, I went to the said series to show the AI what for in my shiny new roadster...... CANNOT GO BEYOND THIS POINT WITH SPECIAL CAR ......what!!!!! Man was I angry. Like I said, its not the cars fault but, I only drove it once, because of this. Without being able to race the Caterham, I just couldn't fall in love with it. I mean come on 70G's, or was 60G's, I can't remember now (need to lay off the booze).

I know. I totally hate the fact that the Caterham races in various real-life GT class races, but in the game it's 90% useless for racing. 👎

 

[Skygrasper550]

How did you think it would be great? Other than acceleration, V8 engine noises, & general burnout capability? Just curious.

I've heard a lot about it, it used to win a lot of racing championships in America or so.., so I wanted to have one myself (in GT4 that is)..,

expectations (before driving):
impressions (after driving):

 

[Adamgp]

I've heard a lot about it, it used to win a lot of racing championships in America or so.., so I wanted to have one myself (in GT4 that is)..,

expectations (before driving):
impressions (after driving):

It won alot on high speed NASCAR circuits, the brief time it was used in the series. For short tracks and road courses, most Dodge/Plymouth teams used a regular Charger R/T/500 or Road Runner.

As for cars that I had high expectations for but turned out to be crap (or atleast a disappointment) are alot of the cars from the Tuner Garage, especially the cars from Spoon and Amuse.

 

[C-ZETA]

The Honda S600 is another car: it has way dodgy handling.

 

[Watchman]

The Honda S600 is another car: it has way dodgy handling.

You're right about that.. But I really expected much from the Hyper Silvia and the car's handling isn't that bad, but the topspeed is just Only 250 km/h without changing the transmission.. Now you can say: But you can buy FC Transmission and that's what I did and it helped, but the problem is that you can't adjust it in Arcade Mode ..

 

[MinoltaMan89]

But I really expected much from the Hyper Silvia and the car's handling isn't that bad, but the topspeed is just Only 250 km/h without changing the transmission.. Now you can say: But you can buy FC Transmission and that's what I did and it helped, but the problem is that you can't adjust it in Arcade Mode ..

That's because it's a drift car. It never needs to do more than 250 k's. And in Arcade Mode, you should be able to adjust the top speed in the Quick Tune menu. Although I don't own the car, so I wouldn't know.

 

[Watchman]

That's because it's a drift car. It never needs to do more than 250 k's. And in Arcade Mode, you should be able to adjust the top speed in the Quick Tune menu. Although I don't own the car, so I wouldn't know.

You are able to adjust it, but 250 will always stay 👍

 

[C-ZETA]

That's because it's a drift car. It never needs to do more than 250 k's. And in Arcade Mode, you should be able to adjust the top speed in the Quick Tune menu. Although I don't own the car, so I wouldn't know.

But the Blitz is a drift car and it will do more than that speed. I think that's also the case with the Mazda BP Falken RX-7.

 

[Austin343]

Not to mention the tyres: they put you on comfort tyres, front and rear for every single mission that involves a road car, and for racers, they put on super hards front and rear! It's just ridiculous!

Sorry to stray off-topic, but that's because comfort tires are actually quite accurate when you compare lap times in GT4 with the real world - you might say they're more realistic. Sports tires are equivalent to supersticky trackday tires, and it's only because they're the default tires on cars in the game that we've become accustomed to them as the way a car is "supposed" to behave. The same goes for race cars: I think GT4's superhards are grippier than real-life racing tires, and mediums most definitely are; there are lots of missions and licenses that use sports tires, anyway. Heck, a couple license tests even put racing tires on supercars.

I was very disappointed by the Speed 12 when I was still new to the game. Even though I still had all aids on and so wasn't annoyed by the wheelspin, I thought the car would be a lot faster and crush everything in its path, which is what I wanted at the time.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

It won alot on high speed NASCAR circuits, the brief time it was used in the series. For short tracks and road courses, most Dodge/Plymouth teams used a regular Charger R/T/500 or Road Runner.

It only dominated NASCAR shortly before it was banned because of its silly nose cone & wing, which gave the Superbird and Dodge Daytona better high-speed aerodynamics. Not difficult to accomplish since the competition included a bunch of blockmobiles.

 

[albteman015]

both Alpines . Those are easily the two worst handling cars in the game.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

both Alpines . Those are easily the two worst handling cars in the game.

Cool 👍 I'm getting ready to try driving one of them pretty soon. I'll certainly be a good judge on whether or not they're really "crap".

 

[Tandem]

The Alpines aren't too bad imo. I liked the Storia X4 rally car from a previous GT game (I don't remember which one; GT2 maybe?). I tried to recreate it with the Storia X4 from GT4 but it was quite pathetic. Come on PD, the car has 120 HP stock, why does putting a stage 1 turbo on add 5 horsepower?

The RUF CTR2 was disappointing as well; a rear-engine Porsche with AWD should have some potential. But no, you can't upgrade to a VCD.

 

[mafia_boy]

both Alpines . Those are easily the two worst handling cars in the game.

You obviously haven't driven a properly tuned A110 then.

Cool 👍 I'm getting ready to try driving one of them pretty soon. I'll certainly be a good judge on whether or not they're really "crap".

The V310 is a bit of a bucket Parnelli, but the A110 can be a decent bit of kit. There's a tuned one done for the Vintage Tuner Cup which scored big marks, I'll dig up the settings and put them up here mate. Uno momento.

*added bit* Parnelli, here's what I'm talking about.
CraftyLandShark's Alpine A110 Rallye

Have fun driving it.

 

[Austin343]

both Alpines . Those are easily the two worst handling cars in the game.

What, because their back ends don't stick to the track like glue all the time? They just require a somewhat different driving style, or, if you're desperate, softer rear tires than front. They really can be giant killers - I believe a fully tuned and winged A110 on racing tires can win the Grand Valley endurance race, for example, and are plenty capable of beating "better" cars in stock form, too.

Two other cars I thought looked really fast when I was new to the game were the Option Stream Z and Amuse CarbonR, but they're utterly hopeless below about 100 mph, and not much better above that. Obviously, I learned that tons of power is useless when it's just wasted in wheelspin.

 

[MinoltaMan89]

both Alpines . Those are easily the two worst handling cars in the game.

Try the MFT A110. You can find it here.

 

[albteman015]

whoa guys calm down . I got the cars to handle properly after a few hours of testing different settings. They were a disappointment because I thought they were gonna be great when i first bought them. Did not expect to have to do so much work to them.

I have only had the game for 4 months and i have 99.4% done. I also have almost every single car so I haven't had the time to get to all of them. So far for me Alpines have been the worst ,that may change though.

 

[Skygrasper550]

It only dominated NASCAR shortly before it was banned because of its silly nose cone & wing, which gave the Superbird and Dodge Daytona better high-speed aerodynamics. Not difficult to accomplish since the competition included a bunch of blockmobiles.

It won alot on high speed NASCAR circuits, the brief time it was used in the series. For short tracks and road courses, most Dodge/Plymouth teams used a regular Charger R/T/500 or Road Runner.

oh, I see.., thanks for the info..,

As for cars that I had high expectations for but turned out to be crap (or atleast a disappointment) are alot of the cars from the Tuner Garage, especially the cars from Spoon and Amuse.

....................you're kidding, right? the Amuse S2000 R1 has god-like grip and handling (for a car on that level to use S3's, that is)

.........AAAAAAAAND maybe I should let you test-drive my Spoon EK9.., I've been perfecting the tune for about a year. so far everytime I learn new tuning techniques and apply it to the EK9, its performance improves.., 👍 trust me, you won't get disappointed..,

 

[Watchman]

.........AAAAAAAAND maybe I should let you test-drive my Spoon EK9.., I've been perfecting the tune for about a year. so far everytime I learn new tuning techniques and apply it to the EK9, its performance improves.., 👍 trust me, you won't get disappointed..,

I'd like to test-drive your Spoon EK9 💡

 

[Adamgp]

oh, I see.., thanks for the info..,



....................you're kidding, right? the Amuse S2000 R1 has god-like grip and handling (for a car on that level to use S3's, that is)

.........AAAAAAAAND maybe I should let you test-drive my Spoon EK9.., I've been perfecting the tune for about a year. so far everytime I learn new tuning techniques and apply it to the EK9, its performance improves.., 👍 trust me, you won't get disappointed..,

The R1 was good, I was mainly referring to the street version. Very oversteery and twitchy, and the acceleration remided me of being on a school bus, made alot of noise, but it wasn't all that fast.

I've driven your Spoon Civic from TCV4, has it changed since? It was actually pretty good. (this coming from a guy who really doesn't care all that much about Civic hatchbacks)

Bone stock it's nothing to write home about.

I even tuned my own and put it in my garage, but I'll be revisiting that one to see if I could do better.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Finally got a car for this thread: the Alpine-Renault A310 1600

I remember being a kid long ago, living in Germany. I was about 10 and it's 1977. Me and my brother got infatuated with rally racing for some reason. And back in those days, the Alpine-Renault was one of the top rally cars, actually winning some world championships and stuff.

So in the game, I'm expecing a sluggish car, but one that at least has some odd quirks, but otherwise is truely good at handling corners. Boy was I wrong!

Driven untuned, the Alpine is one of the biggest messes I've ever driven in any videogame EVER. yea, I tuned it up and got it better and stuff, but it STARTS out like and ice cube on a hot plate.

 

[Lucas]

Weren't you going to be a good judge about the Alpine, Parnelli?

I have drove it before, not long ago, so I can say the car sucks. Sucks bad, pretty bad. I'm talking stock, of course. I always say the same: I judge the cars stock, because tuned almost every car is a good one, except extremely problematic ones. This one had me fight in the Alpine Cup, making me lose because of its oversteer I then exited the race, bought a new suspension, and obliterated every single mother 🤬 Alpine on the race!!!

The Alpine is not only a car I thought would be great but was crap, it definitely takes my vote as the worst car ever to be featured in GT4.

Once you have driven these, you know that Porsche (and Ruf, by extension) has done a great job with their cars.

Please, don't start arguments with me about the above sentence about Ruf and Porsche and what not, because honestly, I'm tired of those. All I know is that, without Porsche, Ruf was not likely to be formed.

Spoiler

Unless, of course, that Ferdinand Porsche obtained the base of his cars after seeing a time travelling Ruf arrive near his house, which gave him the idea of creating a car like it, eventually forming Porsche, and causing Alois Ruf Jr. to become involved with Porsche, servicing and restoring Porsche automobiles out of his father's garage, later creating what would be know today as Ruf Automobile, and after some decades, sending a time travelling Super Ruf to see what motivated Ferdinand Porsche in creating his magnificent cars, thereby becoming a Predestination paradox in which Ruf is based off Porsche and Porsche is based off Ruf. Does this make any sense? I don't know. Want to see my time travelling Ruf?

 

[SaberFire]

Spoiler

Want to see my time travelling Ruf?

Yes.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Weren't you going to be a good judge about the Alpine, Parnelli?

I have drove it before, not long ago, so I can say the car sucks. Sucks bad, pretty bad. I'm talking stock, of course. I always say the same: I judge the cars stock, because tuned almost every car is a good one, except extremely problematic ones. This one had me fight in the Alpine Cup, making me lose because of its oversteer I then exited the race, bought a new suspension, and obliterated every single mother 🤬 Alpine on the race!!!

The Alpine is not only a car I thought would be great but was crap, it definitely takes my vote as the worst car ever to be featured in GT4.
[/SPOILER]

Here's an update on the Alpine A310 (I've become rather obsessed with it).

It may be one of the suckiest cars on pavement, but OFF-ROAD IT ROCKS. It feels completely at home in dirt and even snow. Go ahead try it! You'll see what I mean. Even WITHOUT A LIMITED-SLIP, it simply hums thru those corners. Yea, it's possible to get it too sideways and lose it all, but you've got a lot to work with before that happens.

Makes sense to me that Alpines won so many rallies in the late '60s, early '70s.

 

[Watchman]

Thanks for the tip, Parnelli Bone I'll try it out later today 👍

 

[Driving Park]

Crap cars, eh? I can't really think of any, since with a little tuning and a few choice parts, I can get just about any car to do just about anything I want. but if I had to choose, It'd be the HPA Golf.

I actually found the HPA Golf to be one of the best buys in GT4. It costs less to buy than a regular R32, but has MUCH more power. Also I find it great to drive in the corners, and the exhaust note is one of the best in the game IMO.

But back to the topic, most people have said what I would have said:

Peugeot 905 - I was elated at having enough money to buy it, then I found out how bad it is. I was devastated.

Auto Union - Again, I saved up for it and then was so excited to go try it out. It dominated the test course, but when I tried to race it I couldn't. I was crushed.

Caterham - same deal as the Auto Union, except I didn't save up nearly as much.

Every supercar like the Saleen S7, Zonda, etc. - They get up to speed quickly, but then they take about half the length of Kansas to stop.

Oops, that's more than three.

 

[Watchman]

I actually found the HPA Golf to be one of the best buys in GT4. It costs less to buy than a regular R32, but has MUCH more power. Also I find it great to drive in the corners, and the exhaust note is one of the best in the game IMO.

The HPA Golf was my first car in GT4 and I was pretty surprised when I saw it costs less than the regular R32.. It has got some great handling, as you've said and it has a lot of potential..

But back to the topic, most people have said what I would have said:

Peugeot 905 - I was elated at having enough money to buy it, then I found out how bad it is. I was devastated.

Auto Union - Again, I saved up for it and then was so excited to go try it out. It dominated the test course, but when I tried to race it I couldn't. I was crushed.

Caterham - same deal as the Auto Union, except I didn't save up nearly as much.

Every supercar like the Saleen S7, Zonda, etc. - They get up to speed quickly, but then they take about half the length of Kansas to stop.

Oops, that's more than three.

I've tried the 905, too and I was really disappointed when I noticed it was a bad choice buying this car ..

I tried the Auto Union and yes, it's very good at the Test Course, but it's total 🤬 on the other tracks 👎

I have a mixed opinion about the Caterham.. First of all, the car has got some great handling, although it's very unstable (especially when you drive over rumble strips!).. And the fact you can't enter any events with it makes it even less of a joy..

I have to agree that the brakes of the Saleen S7 and Zondas aren't good, but you can adjust them and they should do fine, so these cars are no disappointment in my eyes 👍

 

[wert12]

the option stream z i thought it would be faster. and to the guy who broke out the dreamcast emu for gt2, i am currently playing it on my psp. so much for gt4 mobile lol.