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[Eva]

HEADS UP: Qualifying results for the mock weekend will be posted tonight following qualifying.

 

[Mikey24]

How do I sign up? I'm confused

Sorry if this seems silly or an inconvenience

 

[swiftsmith]

How do I sign up? I'm confused

Sorry if this seems silly or an inconvenience

Mikey what are you doing here haha?

 

[NinjaEvo]

Mikey what are you doing here haha?

That's what I was thinking...

 

[Eva]

How do I sign up? I'm confused

Sorry if this seems silly or an inconvenience

The way to sign up is actually pretty complex. You need a team, a car number, and then you need licence tests.

 

[NinjaEvo]

The way to sign up is actually pretty complex. You need a team, a car number, and then you need licence tests.

I love how you can describe the complex sign-up method in one sentence...

Yeah, I've PM you Mikey (which is like 3 paragraphs)...

 

[Eva]

Created a poll here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/indy-lights-series.316533/page-4#post-10202205 Please vote. Could mean a big difference.

 

[Eva]

Trial race was aborted. It is in sadness and respect to relay the news I received this afternoon that IRG founder Oliver Germain has passed away at the age of 29 following what appears to be a hemorrhage. I'd like to ask the PS3 IRG community to keep his family in your thoughts and prayers. I'm certain none of you here knew of him, he was the mastermind behind starting IRG in 2006. He's also the only person I knew of to never own a console. Over the next two weeks, the organizers of all IRG series will delegate to determine his replacement.

 

[Eva]

Replacement for Oliver Germain as the leader of IRG will be announced Friday at 5:00 p.m. EST on here and deviantART. Unfortunately Hardy didn't follow through with his plan of a press conference so I'll relay what I currently know on deviantART this afternoon as it doesn't belong to be posted here.

 

[KuniKinoshita]

While it is tragic that we've lost a big figure of us, we must keep going. I have made revisions to the rules based on what the PRB has deemed important, which should be uploaded here in the coming days.

 

[Eva]

THREAD UPDATE: Thread has been updated, 2.01, to include the most recent rule addition/changes as noted by @KuniKino****a earlier. If you haven't read them, do it. If you do read them, do it again. Indy is a few short weeks away.

CALENDAR CHANGES: Someone had to have seen it coming, really, but Hardy has finally decided to stop being pragmatic and changed the calendar. It is not in the thread so don't worry right now. I don't even have it actually. The 2014 Indy 500 and the Rolex Indy GP of Monterey will not change so everyone will still be able to know when the regular season starts. But Hardy did allude to the fact that the races are mostly spread too far apart. My assumption is that there will be a summer break or it will end earlier before school starts up in September, but we won't know until next week at best.

2014 Indy 500 Entries: All entries by teams and drivers for the 2014 Indianapolis 500 Mile Race are due by Sunday, November 23 at 12:01 a.m. EST. Media Day (Pictures and Interviews) is that day, so everyone is more or less required to show up at some point.

NEW SAFETY CAR???: Yes, we already know that PDI is releasing a brand new BW safety car, and as expected, we will have it as a part of our races. Already in the rule guide too, so no delay there.

Safety Car Drivers Needed!!!: We are still in search of safety car drivers. @redbullrider20 has said that he possibly could, but we need someone that can do it guaranteed. Needing response ASAP.

 

[Spirit]

I got tagged! I feel special.

 

[AGNT009]

Im going to risk chiming in here, to respond to the PS message I just saw in my Inbox. As Ive said before, I love the attention to detail you guys have here with this league, setting up the rules, etc. But as someone who has setup leagues for other racing series and such through my gaming life, Ive learned the internet has a VERY short attention span as far as availability. I was very skeptical of the calendar, but hoped for the best. Its the reason I tried to start a practice league now, because I knew how important it was to get the people who SAY they will race to actually race, and keep their excitement up. I was getting a bad feeling when NO ONE showed interest in that, yet claimed to want to race a lot for this league. To start this thread and such SOO far away from the actual points racing wasn't a great decision. I expect 50% or more who committed to be no shows once the racing actually gets going. It didn't help my practice league was poo poo'd on by officials here, but maybe that didn't matter anyways if others are no showing so much that Angel is already yelling at us lol. FYI I wasn't offended by that message, just saddened that ALREADY people are seemingly flaking. I wanted to attend the Nov 2 practice race, but it was just a practice race, and when my football game wasn't on TV locally for me to DVR it, I had to leave home to go watch it. That's not me complaining, that's just one of many examples of how real lives will try their damn best to not make a video game series schedule. Frankly, expecting 1/2 the original field to still be racing come Oct 2015 is dreaming. Take a break for Christmas and maybe New Years, but if I were making the schedule, Id have the first few races in Dec, take the week of Christmas off, and then go full blast every week till the schedule is over. Running the game season next to the Indy season is nice and all, but its wishful thinking to think you can hold a decent field of drivers THAT long. Im not sure how previous seasons went, but if its showing that you cant hold drivers THIS time, its time to drastically condense. Also, Id suggest running the races at 10 am Eastern on Sundays. Meetings start at 9 or whatever and racing lasts 2 hours so its over by Noon eastern and people can watch their sports. Why compete with the NFL, NASCAR, and eventually Indycar? Again, Angel, don't take take any of this the wrong way, but if its drastic times, perhaps drastic measures are called for. In the end, its only a game series, and people will treat it as such if they aren't getting a real world benefit from it. I know theres a prize, but Im sure most don't realistically expect to be the one to win it, I don't being part time. Me and Hardy finally talked the other day for my license test, and we got along well. Im really not the a-hole some assume me to be, in real life, Im actually well liked and totally not like that, Im just blunt online maybe. Anyways, I'll adjust to schedule changes best I can. Im here to race as many times as I can. Hopefully, we have a consistent full field every race week.

 

[Eva]

I've talked to Hardy as well and urged him to explain what's going on behind the scenes. In reality, had this been on PC like it was intended 6 years ago, it would be way different. With IRG's F1 series, there is money involved; quite a bit for the drivers taking part, but they also paid to race there. On the consoles, it's all free, which means the motivation is completely different and it shows. On PC, it works like F1 does financially. For the now 13 teams racing, we have a creation tool we made that they pay to use to create their cars for the season, that money is then fed back to teams and drivers as season payout. That's motivation over there. Here, motivation has to come from heart and just pure desire to win, and with the median age at 16, that's lacking. I knew we'd lose people. This series is going to have that, but I expected more loyalty. I had to cut two of my team and quite possibly a third because they won't help the situation. We currently have 12 signed up for Indy, while our goal is 15...

 

[Eva]

...If we can get 15 to stay, or something like 13 full time and 4-5 part time, we'd be well off. We are okay now, but the thing that gets me is when people are adamant about joining, all excited and everything, then they turn around and exit without warning or explanation. That is why I was [ticked]. People I personally trusted kinda slapping me in the face. Everyone received the same deadline so we'll see on Media Day. Just really sad knowing that missing one race makes someone just drop everything. So we'll try to see who all will be staying and who's gone.

 

[KuniKinoshita]

I'm assuming you were using your PS3 Angel?

 

[Eva]

THREAD UPDATE: The thread has received update 2.02, featuring a new article to the rule guide, article XI, as well as an updated driver roster and the complete up to date, and finalized full 2015 calendar.

NEW IRG LEADER: For those that have not checked out deviantART recently, the IRG has officially decided on its new resident chairperson, and it is no other than Kunimitsu Kino****a ( @KuniKino****a ). Congrats to her and well wishes to a successful leadership ahead.

SAFETY CAR DRIVERS NEEDED!: We will continue searching for safety car drivers. The timing of the new BMW M4 Performance Coupe Safety Car couldn't be better and we are hoping some people will want to help out @redbullrider20 as he also embarks on another season competing in CORE WEC while helping us.

2014 Indianapolis 500 Entries: As everyone should know, the deadline for entries for the 2014 Indianapolis 500 is Sunday, November 23, to coincide with Media Day. I will warn everyone this now, when we set deadlines, we do not budge on them so please make sure you've made your entry known. I don't want to see someone get caught out because they thought this was AUEC where everyone could be stupid. News flash, it isn't. So get signed up.

 

[Spirit]

SAFETY CAR DRIVERS NEEDED!: We will continue searching for safety car drivers. The timing of the new BMW M4 Performance Coupe Safety Car couldn't be better and we are hoping some people will want to help out @redbullrider20 as he also embarks on another season competing in CORE WEC while helping us.

If not CORE WEC then some other series of sorts... Like I said, I cannot 100% commit to doing this Safety Car job. I will do what I can, I can not bend over backwards for this though.

 

[KuniKinoshita]

If not CORE WEC then some other series of sorts... Like I said, I cannot 100% commit to doing this Safety Car job. I will do what I can, I can not bend over backwards for this though.

I'm trying on my end to see what I can do. Kinda hard when I'm 12 hours ahead of EST.

 

[Eva]

Okay, so official teams for the season currently are:
1: Cherokee Motorsports
2: Black Rose Racing Team
3: Sly Fox Racing
4: Bennett Racing
5: CriminalMdoc Racing
6: JT Hollister Breaker Racing
7: USA Motorsport
8: Brown Racing
9: Swift Autosport
...And of those teams, the following have full time drivers...
1: Black Rose Racing Team
2: Sly Fox Racing
3: Bennett Racing
4: USA Motorsport
5: Brown Racing
6: Swift Autosport

Doing the math, even if no one flukes or has an emergency, we'll have only 13 full time drivers, with 8 part time drivers at least. While I have high confidence that for at least half of the points races, we'll have a full grid, I do fear some of the other races on the calendar. We'll have to see. But the situation overall is better than Hardy had let on, so now I do have to apologize for my rather crude language earlier in the week.

 

[AGNT009]

I just noticed I have a problem with II.2. Setup Restrictions. Who exactly has access to the pole and race winners setups? Because if its anyone connected to a team, this rule is BS, as we competitors have no way of knowing if the persons with access to these setups dont just pick and chose what setups they want to steal for future races on the calendar since they will obviously be top quality race winning setups.

 

[Eva]

As it says, those set ups would need to be posted on GTPlanet by them or have someone post it for them. That way we can keep tabs on those setups as well because the setups will be public record. We would also be able to search for existing setups using the numbers we are given. We'd also be able to tell if the numbers are realistic. Valid question, but it's a thorough section.

 

[AGNT009]

As it says, those set ups would need to be posted on GTPlanet by them or have someone post it for them. That way we can keep tabs on those setups as well because the setups will be public record. We would also be able to search for existing setups using the numbers we are given. We'd also be able to tell if the numbers are realistic. Valid question, but it's a thorough section.

Wait what? You're not answering my question. Or as I relook over the schedule and see there are no repeats but Indy, are you saying you plan on posting the winners setups here and since we arent repeating tracks, its ok if the class sees the answers to the test? Again, we are repeating Indy. And assuming you guys want a 2016 season, you expect people in 2016 to not look and use the 2015 setups used by the winners? Im missing the logic here. I certainly dont plan on hacking, and it seemed you guys caught hackers anyways with the naked eye, so Im not sure why seeing everyone's setup is necessary. It sounds like you are contradicting your wishes, post setups publicly 2015, but dont peak in 2016? Please give a clear answer this time, because that wasnt one.

 

[NearCptNitro]

That seems odd, kinda makes some sense though I'm pretty sure teams would prefer some privacy around their cars until further circumstances like most other motorsports.

 

[Eva]

The idea is to keep people from using already made setups from online.

 

[AGNT009]

The idea is to keep people from using already made setups from online.

Which is absolutely silly. We arent all Chad Knaus. Who cares if drivers got something online. Isnt it more about driving skill anyways? Someone could find something online, and still drive it bad. Every track probably has the PERFECT setup for it for each car. So if some drivers find it, you're not allowing others to use it and forcing them to race something less than ideal? Thats silly. And if you have some perfect setup you're protecting for your own team, then win with it, and have to post it, then its no longer a secret in-house setup. Its like the leadership is trying to protect their in-house setups, while forcing everyone else to expose theirs, and dont find something competitive online somewhere, so that they are further away from the top team's setups. It all rather stinks honestly. As long as we're not hacking, its just a GAME series, and should be more focused on our individual driving talent and not our tuning skills.

 

[Spirit]

The idea is to keep people from using already made setups from online.

In my honest opinion, that turns the series from "who's the best driver?" to "who's the best tuner?" I can't tune cars very well myself, but you still see me up front in WEC because I use my resources and practice my ass off (just like everyone else). Using posted tunes shouldn't be restricted as it restricts the potential for your drivers to be up front and create better racing for everyone. Again, just my opinion. I'm an obsolete Safety Car driver here, I really have no say.

 

[Eva]

The argument here is this, and Hardy should be able to explain it better. He came up with the rule, but the point is that using tunes straight from online is unoriginal. However, it still allows you to get setups online and modify them. We don't want lazy people here to sit on success. As long as you don't use a setup straight from online, and I mean modify it, then there's no problem.

 

[NearCptNitro]

Ins't there a way to set it up so that only officials get this information directly? And setup has nothing to do with driving skill BTW, only the skill of the tuning. That being said I do kind of agree with redbull on this seeing as I have not found a decent tune for the FGT on GTPlanet or online anyways and if everyone were to use the same setup, they may not learn a thing about tuning a car of this is there first series. On top of that most tunes I come across are quite specific to the events and regulations. I'm not shooting the messenger here, I'm just throwing out some opinions and ideas.

 

[Eva]

It can be considered.