CNET.com Poll: Forza 3 vs. Gran Turismo 5

X-Power
...the bloke who wrote this comment is completley blind to Forza's faults and obviously, judging by his comments, has never played GT.
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He sertainly hasn't. He doesn't even know GT5P excists as it seems, since he told us to go play GT4.
 
It now says the poll is closed, which means GT5 has won?

Pretty hilarious since forzamotorsport.net was bribing their fanboys to vote for Forza 3! :lol:
 
GT5 has won. Dan Greenawalt must now official eat his own shoe. I want a youtube video right now. lol. I really do not care as a CNET pole does not prove anything, but it is sure nice to shut those damn idiots up. Maybe now all we will hear about is new on GT5 not news on FM3 talking about GT5 talking about FM3 talking utter crap. Pfft that'll happen.
 
Northstar3914
That is just a rumor, which means it isn't confirmed.👎
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It's not confirmed that it's 30FPS, but it is confirmed that it is not running at a solid 60FPS.
Make that 3 guys (including me) now. Here's the whole story:

Today, I went and checked out the game that was NOT the 3 screen motorized seat set up (meaning, a regular kiosk w controller). In that set up, the camera change button is the standard right bumper as explained in the load screen. In the wheels/3 screen set up, they had to remap the buttons so searching for the right bumper would not have mattered (It's X button if you care). So basically, no one ever changed the camera from the cockpit view when they played one of those awesome 3 screen set ups (and why would you? the whole set up was to emulate the in car experience). But with the regular kiosk, it's easy to figure out how to change the camera and everybody does it.

On Tuesday, I played nothing but the wheel/3 screen set up (because it's so damn cool, obviously), so I just took in whatever the framerate I saw as 60 that was reported (yes, my internal frame rate counter is obviously not well calibrated).

Today, I tried out the regular kiosk. And when you change the camera away from the cockpit view, it's VERY easy to see that it's running less smoothly than the other views! I don't know if the cockpit view is running 30, 40, or 45 fps, but it's definitely less than whatever the other views are (probably 60, which I can't say for sure since my internal frame rate detector seems to suck). VERY easy to see the difference cycling through the views.

So I talked to one of the devs manning the kiosks. Here's the deal: The cockpit view was implemented last, and it employs a different lighting model than the other views. Thus it needs way more optimizing than the other views. Dan was there, so I cornered him on this. He says wait until final code. They will get there (FYI, the E3 demo code is about a month old).

So that's the whole story. Whoever that guy was in this thread was right on. Props to him and my apologies for doubting him.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16168414&postcount=775

1 of our members at FC.net who was at E3 noticed similar things himself when it came to the cockpit view. Right now, it's being regarded as an issue of that build just like the driver animations not working, not the game itself.

paskowitz
GT5 has won. Dan Greenawalt must now official eat his own shoe. I want a youtube video right now. lol. I really do not care as a CNET pole does not prove anything, but it is sure nice to shut those damn idiots up. Maybe now all we will hear about is new on GT5 not news on FM3 talking about GT5 talking about FM3 talking utter crap. Pfft that'll happen.
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Dan had nothing to do with this. He may boast, but he's not this much of an ass to attempt bribery.
 
there's no way that Forza 3 has as many neurotic fanatical fans as GT5, GT5 will win the poll heh. I am really interested in trying the game myself. I may go to that new york competition just to try the game out.
 
patriotzero
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Definitive Damage modelling in Definitive Racing Game..
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The R8 has such a strong crumple zone that it doesn't even crumple! Germans always make good stuff. XDDD
 
seanchump
I really don't get why FM fans hate GT fans.. Where did this need for bias fanboyism come from?
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it's just envy. lol
They know they're playing the inferior game deep down and need to compensate by being loud and proud.

Like fanboys like developers I guess. I've never seen a community manager act like a douchebag as much as Che, he's really not gaining T10 any fans.
 
vaioleto
The R8 has such a strong crumple zone that it doesn't even crumple! Germans always make good stuff. XDDD
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The more I watch that crash, the more it looks like a bumper car itself. The impending force after hitting the wall just doesn't look natural.

I would expect that hitting at such an angle would result in the whole front end going in the wall (seeing as the whole car's direction pretty much goes toward it head on), and then being pushed back out. Not hitting it at the right front, and suddenly going in an opposite direction.
 
30FPS if that's true it won't be pleasant driving a car from the dash view, it will be so Cchhooppppyy...honestly...and btw forza guys keep barging about their amazing car damage and the way their cars actually roll over...if their damage was so accurate, why doesn't the windshield break and the bonnet bend and the roof cave in....makes me laugh... 👎
 
baadshah
30FPS if that's true it won't be pleasant driving a car from the dash view, it will be so Cchhooppppyy...honestly...and btw forza guys keep barging about their amazing car damage and the way their cars actually roll over...if their damage was so accurate, why doesn't the windshield break and the bonnet bend and the roof cave in....makes me laugh... 👎
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That's been a touchy subject. Dan told our guy that damage was turned off yet the R8's mirror breaks away. We'll have to wait & see, honestly.
 
CNet has caught on. This one's for you Turn10. Hope you're happy.
Editor's note: After numerous complaints of cheating and in-game content being offered as payment for votes, I've decided to close the poll. Way to ruin the fun for the rest of us, guys.
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Y'know...I thought about doing what I said I was going to do, but in the end it'd be even more childish for me than it was for them.

I await both games. End of story.

EDIT: In light of Reventon's post (seconds before mine, I've just changed my mind. :dopey:)
 
if the damage was turned off, then I take my comment back 👍 We will have to wait and see, btw the side view mirror breaking off is nice level of detail
 
I love how some guy on the actual receive a prize thread on fm.net said, "said somthing about cheating and couldnt vote" dumb*** ... you were part of the cheating.... ahaahah
 
baadshah
if the damage was turned off, then I take my comment back 👍 We will have to wait and see, btw the side view mirror breaking off is nice level of detail
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As silly as some of the fans are for saying how "realistic" Forza is, they do have some decent crashing dynamics. In FM2, parts break off rather like in Toca 3, in real time so in replays, they behave uniquely with each replay. Parts on the track are "sort of" there, as you can run into them and push them around, but have no effect on your car. I've lost many a rear view mirror housing, and watched as it sat there on the track during subsequent laps.
 
Its funny how everyone is calling them Forza fanboys, yet here we have a thread 12 pages long (not to mention all the other threads) of GT fans basically just ranting about Forza/Forza devs/Forza fanboys. Sounds a little, ya know, fanboyish, eh? :P

vaioleto
Like fanboys like developers I guess.
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Really? Coz I dont see too many of the GT fanboys acting like Kaz.
 
Reventón;3426995
CNet has caught on. This one's for you Turn10. Hope you're happy.
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Hahahaha! Way to go there Turn10! 👍

The funniest thing is that FM3 cheated, yet GT5 won the poll! Hahahaha! :lol:
 
WolfRacer543
Its funny how everyone is calling them Forza fanboys, yet here we have a thread 12 pages long (not to mention all the other threads) of GT fans basically just ranting about Forza/Forza devs/Forza fanboys. Sounds a little, ya know, fanboyish, eh? :P
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Are we not supposed to talk about it when they talk about GT/PD/GT community? Why is it fanboyish to talk about it?
 

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