Corvette C7

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

GT-R NISMO, yes. Normal GT-R, no.

No it just cost 20k more, I take my car in to get maintenance done in December after finals if you want I'll take a picture of the one in the showroom that's been sitting their for 9-11 months and get you the sticker price if you still don't believe.

So yes they're asking for 120k on a GT-R which I think may be a vspec model.

The Scary thing is, this isn't even the ZR-1.

I'm telling you guys the ZR1 aint gonna happen. Why would it need to if this car does it all. Why have an oddball like the GT2 RS or F12 that really has no purpose other than to be powerful in it's own class range and thus be mainly for the minimal amount of enthusiasts that may or may not want to buy it. Sure you can get Jay Leno but who else do you have after?

 

[CodeRedR51]

No it just cost 20k more, I take my car in to get maintenance done in December after finals if you want I'll take a picture of the one in the showroom that's been sitting their for 9-11 months and get you the sticker price if you still don't believe.

So yes they're asking for 120k on a GT-R which I think may be a vspec model.

Again, you are being specific, he wasn't. He just said GT-R for $130-140k. Without being specific, one expects a regular GT-R which is not anywhere near that price.

 

[mustafur]

I'm telling you guys the ZR1 aint gonna happen. Why would it need to if this car does it all. Why have an oddball like the GT2 RS or F12 that really has no purpose other than to be powerful in it's own class range and thus be mainly for the minimal amount of enthusiasts that may or may not want to buy it. Sure you can get Jay Leno but who else do you have after?

Well for starters it isn't a money car, its a halo car which in turn gives the Corvette and GM brand more credibility and will build it's Bottom line Corvette Range.

ZR-1 makes sense in about 2-3 years when the performance mark is likely increased again, and I would suspect given GMs massive push in Dynamic performance for it's performance models in Cadillac and Corvette Models, the Future ZR-1 would be Surpassing the 918 Level Performance wise and likely priced closer towards 200k at a more Limited Edition number of units.

 

[Organ-Donor]

Link to multiple magazine reviews

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2014/11/24/links-magazines-test-drive-the-2015-corvette-z06/

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

If I ever lived in a southern climate again and had the money, this is the exact color I would buy. Best Corvette ever IMO.

 

[Luminis]

Ever sat in an SN95 Mustang? It's not much better than a kit car...

The SN95 started production a good twenty years ago! In all fairness, you can't really hold the build quality of a car that hasn't been in production for a decade against current cars from the US. Even German media, which is generally quite biased against foreign cars (my impression, at least), especially if they're American made, are admitting that build quality and stuff has gone up considerably over the last decade.

And, well, given the price... If I had the money, I'd buy the Z06. Or the regular Stingray. It's an awesome car, imho, and that's coming from a Porsche fanboy

So they were going to make a huge, high-revving engine, but scrapped it due to emissions? THANKS, OBAMA.

Yeah, thanks indeed! Personally, I love naturally aspirated engines, but dang, the results are pretty awesome regardless.

Again, you are being specific, he wasn't. He just said GT-R for $130-140k. Without being specific, one expects a regular GT-R which is not anywhere near that price.

Well, one can argue semantics all day long, but I think the point stands, the Z06 is one hell of a bargain, potentially a better performance bargain than the GT-R. If the Z07 package, as tested by Motor Trend, is indeed faster round a track than the GT-R NISMO, that is. In that case, it'd be indeed faster than the GT-R that costs 40k more.

I'm telling you guys the ZR1 aint gonna happen. Why would it need to if this car does it all. Why have an oddball like the GT2 RS or F12 that really has no purpose other than to be powerful in it's own class range and thus be mainly for the minimal amount of enthusiasts that may or may not want to buy it. Sure you can get Jay Leno but who else do you have after?

There's one reason I can think of as to why GM might still change their plans and make a ZR-1 eventually. Once the competition, likely Nissan, comes up with a car that's performing better than the Z06 at a similar price point, GM might want to have their bragging rights back. Otherwise, I don't think that there'd be a point to create a ZR-1.

/edit: Besides, if Nissan can find someone to buy a GT-R NISMO over a regular GT-R despite the 40k premium, I'd say that GM might just find someone to take a ZR-1 over a Z06...

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The SN95 started production a good twenty years ago! In all fairness, you can't really hold the build quality of a car that hasn't been in production for a decade against current cars from the US. Even German media, which is generally quite biased against foreign cars (my impression, at least), especially if they're American made, are admitting that build quality and stuff has gone up considerably over the last decade.

My original point was that quality/refinement has improved dramatically over the past 20 years. I own a 2003 Mach 1, which has the same interior as the SN95 cars. It's awful. Shameful even. My '84 RX-7 is leagues ahead in terms of quality. The Corvette is largely the same. C4's were dreadful things to sit in, but the C7 is actually pretty nice.

Also, Top Gear:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/corvette-z06-c7-first-drive-2014-11-25

Think it's fair to say it's going to crush anything less than a 918, P1 or LaFerrari. Its combination of relentless power, unshakeable chassis - with all its clever technology that works with you - and vast brakes is unbeatable at the moment. And that's just on the track.

That's a pretty remarkable statement. I'm curious to see how it compares to the 458 Speciale and McLaren 650S and Huracan all the same. On paper, it doesn't seem to have any sort of enormous advantage, if any at all. I think it's possible that it's faster than the Ferrari or Mclaren (pretty certain it will obliterate the Lambo) but I'm not sure it will "crush" them.

Edit: Random comment made me chuckle:

I don't know what's in the burgers the Americans have been eating, but if they're turning out stuff like this, the GT350 and the Hellcats, I want some.

 

[Keef]

Edit: Random comment made me chuckle:

Viagra. Little sprinkle in the engineers' coffee maker = boner machines.

 

[Luminis]

My original point was that quality/refinement has improved dramatically over the past 20 years.

My bad, I must've misunderstood your post and got carried away, I think.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

From the TG article:

" flip off the roof panel - a first for all Z06s "

Not true.

 

[Epic B]

From the TG article:

" flip off the roof panel - a first for all Z06s "

Not true.

I've heard cases of the roof falling off of C6 Z06s. I don't know the details.

Also, unsurprising news that we all know already: The new Z06 is fast.

 

[ildd]

Cool!

 

[RocZX]

Z06 makes 585hp at the wheels

As reported by Corvette Forum, this particular example of the new Z06 pumps out 585 hp at the rear wheels, with 617 lb-ft of torque. Figuring a fairly standard 15% drivetrain loss along the way, and doing some backward math, that’s about 688 hp and 725 lb-ft at the crank—considerably more than the 650 hp and 650 lb-ft ratings from Chevrolet.

MotorAuthority

 

[Niku Driver HC]

585!? Gotta love those overzealous power ratings, instead of 650 in total, the ZO6 has almost 700 hp to go with! That has to make the Corvette C7 ZO6 one of the best perfomance bargains of 2014...

 

[Zenith]

You'll notice that most high horsepower cars don't abide by the 15% rule because the 15% rule is pretty much bogus.

 

[GTboyz]

Amazing car. I never thought the new Z06 would be that good. Beating 918 around the track is really, really impressive. Well done Chevy

 

[ildd]

Not sure if anyone's heard it but... I have

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Not sure if anyone's heard it but... I have

Damm son, that video should've come with a volume warning. The short period where the car's revs peak startled me, and I didn't even have the volume all the way up...

Also, you said you already heard it. Did you do it in real life? If so then congrats, brave man, must've been quite the sight.

 

[ildd]

Damm son, that video should've come with a volume warning. The short period where the car's revs peak startled me, and I didn't even have the volume all the way up...

Also, you said you already heard it. Did you do it in real life? If so then congrats, brave man, must've been quite the sight.

I'm the one that filmed it. If you can tell, it scared me too. Never thought it would get THAT loud.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I'm the one that filmed it. If you can tell, it scared me too. Never thought it would get THAT loud.

Yeah, me neither. I was expecting a deep noise, but not such a STRONG deep noise. Man, if this is how the ZO6 sounds, imagine if Chevy considers a ZR1 version for the C7's future... I bet you let out a "wow" or a "oh my god" when the owner revved it.

 

[RACECAR]

Yeah, me neither. I was expecting a deep noise, but not such a STRONG deep noise. Man, if this is how the ZO6 sounds, imagine if Chevy considers a ZR1 version for the C7's future... I bet you let out a "wow" or a "oh my god" when the owner revved it.

You know that new Track based Ferrari that was just unveiled? Bet that's going to be your reaction if you were to hear a C7 ZR1 revving up.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

You know that new Track based Ferrari that was just unveiled? Bet that's going to be your reaction if you were to hear a C7 ZR1 revving up.

The LaFerrari FXXK, right? I know of it, and yes, I'd probably have the exact same reaction. One cannot even begin to shake in fear of such a possibility.

 

[ildd]

You can hear me giggle the first time he revved it

 

[Niku Driver HC]

You can hear me giggle the first time he revved it

That would be more or less what I'd do if I was there in person to hear it. That and having a grin longer than Route 66 on my face, alongside my heavy-bleeding ears.

 

[McLaren]

Stock vs stock, a Viper TA pulls on a Z06.


Very surprised, even more so that the out-going ZR1 started a slow pull. The real shocker is the Corvette community acknowledging this as possibly even more evidence that the cars have a serious heat soak issue. A few owners are complaining about a loss of power after 3-4 runs, & a shop confirmed that the ECU is extremely conservative & pulls timing for almost any situation. Currently awaiting to see how owners do on the road courses after a couple laps.

 

[GTboyz]

You know its an amazing sound if you can't even describe it with words, but with giggles.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Should have stuck with naturally aspirated. Even advanced twin screw blowers are not a good fit for a car expected to endure road course lapping. Too much heat soak. Too much weight. Too much brake burden. I really, really want to see a bolt on C6 Z (like intake and tune only) race a C7 Z. I bet it would be pretty close over 100mph.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Should have stuck with naturally aspirated. Even advanced twin screw blowers are not a good fit for a car expected to endure road course lapping. Too much heat soak. Too much weight. Too much brake burden. I really, really want to see a bolt on C6 Z (like intake and tune only) race a C7 Z. I bet it would be pretty close over 100mph.

Which is what I've been saying, it seems GM went with more power the easiest way possible (though technologically getting better tunes out of any prior supercharged v8 it seems). If this car is not significantly better than the outgoing C6 supercar variants what's the point. It's a great looker, yes and sounds amazing...but at the end of the day the goal is having the best car all around.

 

[Organ-Donor]

Pretty disappointing to see. A heat soak issue that quick on their track focused car doesn't sound good, and they weren't even running in warm conditions.
I've seen a video roll race same white Viper vs a stock ZR1 and they are dead even.



When Vengeance Racing was tuning their Z06 they did say this which could be a restrictive stock tune issue.

"With the OE calibration we did experience the same thing... The timing tables are EXTREMELY conservative and the ECU will pull timing for almost any situation. I am waiting for owners to complain about "tip in" as the ECU pulls a massive amount of timing when slightly touching the gas pedal.

All that being said, MOST of the loss of power can be addressed in the ECU.. IAT2 temps are actually quite impressive, even after multiple pulls on the chassis dyno. We will get on the highway in the next couple of days and make some back to back "multi gear" runs for comparison sake."

I won't jump the gun but I just expected more from the roll race. And as far as the track goes, well... doing only 2-4 laps and shutting it down because of heat soak is unacceptable for their track engineered car. That's why I loved the 7.0l N/A Z06

 

[YSSMAN]

Not sure if this would have anything to do with it, but what about the transmission choice?

Car and Driver seemed to indicate that the models equipped with the manual were a good bit slower:

We tested both the automatic and manual Z06, the latter returning numbers lower than expected. The base seven-speed coupe, 3559 pounds, did a 60-mph strafe of 3.4 seconds, a quarter-mile clobbering in 11.5 seconds at 126 mph, skidpad laps averaging 1.12 g’s, and a stop from 70 in 139 feet. However, our tester grumped that the car should have been quicker, especially since its computer threw a code during testing and may have been cutting power. Even if it was, the car still posted numbers comparable to the old ZR1. Retesting before deadline wasn’t possible, so we teed up our next subject, a Z07 automatic coupe, which logged the performance shown in our charts.

Seems to be an ongoing pattern with all of the supercharged models. The automatics are almost always faster.