COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

[Dennisch]

All I see is scientific lies. I go back to Facebook.

 

[Tornado]

I heard an ad on the radio for paid vaccine trials. I don't really know anything about the process, but that seems promising?

 

[McLaren]

How are you so certain that you are correct?

Because I've used your sources from your arguments twice already to do so.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

And mix in Arizona and you have a pretty clear example of both low and high humidity environments spreading it just fine in the heat.

Well, if living in the south taught me anything, it's that in summertime you might as well be living in a space colony, moving from one highly conditioned space to the next without actually going outside. I wouldn't be surprised if 90%+ of covid transmission in both states is conducted in interior environments with air conditioning systems running a very high recirculation rate with minimal filtration.

 

[Danoff]

Well, if living in the south taught me anything, it's that in summertime you might as well be living in a space colony, moving from one highly conditioned space to the next without actually going outside. I wouldn't be surprised if 90%+ of covid transmission in both states is conducted in interior environments with air conditioning systems running a very high recirculation rate with minimal filtration.

Humidity levels will still persist to indoors unless it's being controlled. I do kinda doubt that much covid transmission is occurring outdoors anywhere.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Humidity levels will still persist to indoors unless it's being controlled. I do kinda doubt that much covid transmission is occurring outdoors anywhere.

AC does control (reduce) humidity. I'm reasonably certain that indoor spaces in Florida will be far dryer than outdoor conditions. Arizona is dry enough that you can use swamp/evap coolers to add humidity to cool spaces, which I think is still a fairly common HVAC strategy there. The result is that indoor conditions between Arizona and Florida are probably not far off.

What I'm getting at is that whatever climactic factors might temper virus transmission are probably irrelevant since most transmission probably happens inside buildings anyways.

 

[Touring Mars]

I've ordered a humidifier. I'm also sipping Black Elderberry syrup to help keep my throat healthy.

Some recent reports have suggested that keeping one's throat healthy may be a good idea. I gargle with alcohol-based mouthwash every day, and I also drink a fair amount of alcohol just to be on the safe side.

I do kinda doubt that much covid transmission is occurring outdoors anywhere.

I reckon it is pretty unlikely that you will catch the virus outdoors, unless you are in a dense crowd. As such, gigs and sporting events could be off the menu for a very long time. Ironic, however, that one scourge of humanity (SARS-CoV-2) can potentially eradicate another (people singing so loud at concerts that you can't hear the actual band).

 

[Danoff]

AC does control (reduce) humidity. I'm reasonably certain that indoor spaces in Florida will be far dryer than outdoor conditions. Arizona is dry enough that you can use swamp/evap coolers to add humidity to cool spaces, which I think is still a fairly common HVAC strategy there. The result is that indoor conditions between Arizona and Florida are probably not far off.

What I'm getting at is that whatever climactic factors might temper virus transmission are probably irrelevant since most transmission probably happens inside buildings anyways.

Yea, I think what you're getting at is true, that the indoor climate is more relevant. Humidity is not that easily controlled indoors. My AC doesn't take much of the humidity out of the air, and it has been running a lot the last few days. Right now the air inside my house (without a humidifier) is actually more humid than outside. Not sure why that is come to think of it... maybe it was more humid earlier today.

I'd be surprised to see indoor humidity below like 60% in Austin Texas, and I'd be surprised to see it above 40% in parts of Arizona, even with a whole house humidifier.

Edit:

Just looked up Phoenix. It's supposed to hit 110F today. Good god.

 

[Joey D]

Just looked up Phoenix. It's supposed to hit 110F today. Good god.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Yea, I think what you're getting at is true, that the indoor climate is more relevant. Humidity is not that easily controlled indoors. My AC doesn't take much of the humidity out of the air, and it has been running a lot the last few days. Right now the air inside my house (without a humidifier) is actually more humid than outside. Not sure why that is come to think of it... maybe it was more humid earlier today.

I'd be surprised to see indoor humidity below like 60% in Austin Texas, and I'd be surprised to see it above 40% in parts of Arizona, even with a whole house humidifier.

Edit:

Just looked up Phoenix. It's supposed to hit 110F today. Good god.

Just because I'm curious, are you sure you don't have an evaporative cooler? Based on Colorado climate, it would probably work there. Refrigerant-based AC works by removing humidity, its what the evap component does.

 

[Danoff]

Just because I'm curious, are you sure you don't have an evaporative cooler? Based on Colorado climate, it would probably work there. Refrigerant-based AC works by removing humidity, its what the evap component does.

Definitely refrigerant-based AC.

 

[McLaren]

Florida report today displays 156 deaths & 491 hospitalizations, highest numbers in each category. I can not begin to imagine what the next couple weeks will look like as the parks having just opened. Worse yet, I know 2 people who just went to Orlando for the re-openings, & I imagine thousands have done the same, meaning an easy potential for the tourists to take back any infection.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Florida report today displays 156 deaths & 491 hospitalizations, highest numbers in each category. I can not begin to imagine what the next couple weeks will look like as the parks having just opened. Worse yet, I know 2 people who just went to Orlando for the re-openings, & I imagine thousands have done the same, meaning an easy potential for the tourists to take back any infection.

Have you heard about the "Crazy Disney Lady"?

 

[Danoff]

Florida report today displays 156 deaths & 491 hospitalizations, highest numbers in each category. I can not begin to imagine what the next couple weeks will look like as the parks having just opened. Worse yet, I know 2 people who just went to Orlando for the re-openings, & I imagine thousands have done the same, meaning an easy potential for the tourists to take back any infection.

Florida ranks 2nd in the US for largest percentage of population over age 65. It looks like only California has more people aged 65+ (though it's Maine that has the larger population by percentage). Of all of the states to have a catastrophic explosion of coronavirus...

Arizona also has a high percentage of older residents.

 

[McLaren]

Have you heard about the "Crazy Disney Lady"?

News to me. I'm guessing it's a Karen with Mickey ears screaming about masks?

 

[DesertPenguin]

News to me. I'm guessing it's a Karen with Mickey ears screaming about masks?

Not screaming, streaming

 

[McLaren]

Not screaming, streaming

Had to Google it. Oh, I saw a screenshot of her being made fun of on Reddit, but had no idea about her actually streaming her shenanigans.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Yea, she's got a YouTube channel and the comment section is what you'd expect

 

[Joey D]

Also her friend ate some nuts or something and had an allergic reaction, people assumed she had the rona and began sending her death threats. She's crazy for sure, but I feel like she won't be one of the ones to galavant around the park if she's sick so she doesn't end up with a perma-ban from the Mouse.

 

[x3ra]

Okay so if you wear a mask PROPERLY then you may marginally reduce the chances of spreading Covid-19, but you have more chance of finding someone with the coronavirus than someone who wears a mask properly. For most people it'll just be an incubation mask.

 

[Dennisch]

Okay so if you wear a mask PROPERLY then you may marginally reduce the chances of spreading Covid-19, but you have more chance of finding someone with the coronavirus than someone who wears a mask properly. For most people it'll just be an incubation mask.

There is a plate in front of your head that's so thick, it's almost ridiculous.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Also her friend ate some nuts or something and had an allergic reaction, people assumed she had the rona and began sending her death threats. She's crazy for sure, but I feel like she won't be one of the ones to galavant around the park if she's sick so she doesn't end up with a perma-ban from the Mouse.

The belief is that they have the virus and are downplaying it because they think the hoax is that it's blown out of proportion. Interesting how the friend without a nut allergy got the same "allergic reaction". They went to medical staff and were told to go to a hospital but refused. Because "gotta have my Disney vacation".

And of course Disney isn't going to force them off their property because money money money. Disney is the same company that airlifts a dying person out of their parks so they can say no one died in their parks. Yea....

 

[Danoff]

Okay so if you wear a mask PROPERLY then you may marginally reduce the chances of spreading Covid-19, but you have more chance of finding someone with the coronavirus than someone who wears a mask properly. For most people it'll just be an incubation mask.

Kinda goes without saying that when people talk about wearing a mask, they talk about wearing it properly.

 

[Blitz24]

Kinda goes without saying that when people talk about wearing a mask, they talk about wearing it properly.

So wearing a mask on my ears is not considered "proper"?

 

[McLaren]

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to listen to a man's view on whether masks are "helpful or hoax" when Google shows he's given his platform to anti-vaccine/Covid-deniers to spout their nonsense, and is upset YouTube took it down & articles were written about it.

I asked Bet-David whether he felt any responsibility over airing these views on his channel—particularly potentially harmful claims by his guests, urging viewers to ignore public health recommendations.

“I do not,” he said. “I am responsible for what comes out of my mouth. I’m not responsible for what comes out of your mouth”

For him, that lack of responsibility extends to misinformation that could be harmful to his audience. He is just giving people what they are asking for. That, in turn, drives attention, which allows him to make money from ads, merchandise, speaking gigs, and workshops. “It’s up to the audience to make the decision for themselves,” he says. Besides, he thinks he’s done interviewing anti-vaccine activists for now. He’s trying to book some “big name” interviews of what he termed “pro-vaccine” experts.

On his website, promoting her book:

Dr Judy A Mikovits PHD has a virtual sit-down with Patrick Bet-David and opens up about her fallout with Anthony Fauci that led to her 5 year gag order and whistleblower status. Order her book https://amzn.to/2VL3AC8 Site: Plague of Corruption https://bit.ly/2Yg3Tqn Follow her on Twitter:@DrJudyAMikovits

Edit* Don't even need to watch it; his comment section is all anti-mask/govt. conspiracy/etc. nonsense which tells me exactly what his views likely are.

 

[x3ra]

You obviously didn't watch the video, if you think it's just about where you put the mask. Take a picture of the hand sanitizer you take out with you and post it. Should only take 2 minutes.Because I don't think you got one.

 

[McLaren]

Oh look, we're trying strawman arguments.

 

[UKMikey]

 

[Danoff]

You obviously didn't watch the video, if you think it's just about where you put the mask.

It's a crap video. Instructions for healthcare workers are not the same as you and me, because healthcare workers are in a different environment than the rest of us. When I take my mask off I take it off by the strings, I don't contact the front of the mask with my fingers. I then put it in a bin, and don't use it again for 48 hours. I'm sure if I put a black light on it I'd see lots of flecks and spots, but none of those are important. COVID is not breeding on my mask, it's dying on it. Cloth wicks away the moisture that keeps it alive.

And you can absolutely find surgical masks that can be worn (quite comfortably) without denying them from healthcare workers. There are plenty that are sold with the same manufacturing process but without the necessary certifications for use in hospitals. These are cheap, and way better than your home cloth mask.

Look, it's just not as hard as that guy is trying to make it out to be.

And while you're at it, to better protect yourself, wear sunglasses/safety glasses.

 

[x3ra]

I was talking to Blitz. However nicely done Mikey. Do you believe Mikey that everyone who wears a mask, follows the correct procedures to make mask wearing effective? I don't. As a percentage I'd guess less than 10%. I'm not against wearing masks, nowhere have I stated that I am. But they're bloody pointless if you don't use them properly. It seems that you need to be fastidious about their use. I don't know many fastidious people and I do know that I'm not one of them either.