COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

[Tired Tyres]

Ya I really don't understand why any country discovers something then says "well we're going to allow people to fly in for X amount of time before we shut down flights." I mean that would work if you quarantined people flying in, but I highly doubt that's happening. Also, logistically you probably couldn't keep track of everyone that needed to be quarantined.

We botched the whole travel thing in the US badly at the start of the pandemic. It took us weeks to ban flights from China and when the UK variant was discovered, we waited a few weeks before banning flights from there too.

They never learn. Before the last full lockdown, in the UK, they gave notice that London was going from stage 3 to 4. That triggered what looked like most of the London population all trying to get on a small number of trains all jammed together in the station making the subway at rush hour look empty, taking their new more transmissible version of Covid to the rest of the country.

 

[UKMikey]

Ted Nugent tests positive for coronavirus after calling pandemic a ‘scam’

Musician Ted Nugent has tested positive for coronavirus months after he said that the virus was “not a real pandemic”.

In his Christmas message shared on social media in December, Nugent called the worldwide crisis a “scammy pandemic” and said that people who wore masks were “sheep”.

On Monday (19 April), Nugent revealed on Facebook Live that he had caught Covid-19, admitting that “everybody” told him that he shouldn’t announce his diagnosis.

“I have had flu symptoms for the last 10 days and I thought I was dying, just a cluster****,” he said.

“Today is the 19th of April 2021 during cluster**** pandemic... I was tested positive today. I got the Chinese ****.”

Former US president Donald Trump, whom Nugent publicly supported throughout his time in office, faced criticism for his repeated description of Covid-19 as the “Chinese virus”.

Describing his symptoms including a “stuffed-up head” and “body-aches”, Nugent continued: “My god, what a pain in the a**. I literally could hardly crawl out of bed the last few days… So I was officially tested positive for Covid-19 today.”

He then repeated previous comments that he wouldn’t be getting the vaccine because “nobody knows what’s in it”.

Last year, he told fans: “I ain’t taking no vaccine. You come at me with a needle and I will be in fear of my life. You know what I’ll do if you come at me with a needle. ‘Hi I’m from the government, this needle’s good for you.’ **** you.”

 

[Touring Mars]

Ted Nugent tests positive for coronavirus after calling pandemic a ‘scam’

What a 🤬 dunce.

 

[Outspacer]

Ya I really don't understand why any country discovers something then says "well we're going to allow people to fly in for X amount of time before we shut down flights." I mean that would work if you quarantined people flying in, but I highly doubt that's happening. Also, logistically you probably couldn't keep track of everyone that needed to be quarantined.

This reveals some of the scale of the ineptitude...

"A briefing document drawn up by officials at Public Health England shows that between 25 March and 7 April, 3,345 arrivals from India were registered in UK border travel data. Of those 161 - or 4.8% - tested positive for Covid-19 after a PCR test." - BBC

Obviously raises a number of questions.

Were we sequencing those positives? It would seem sensible to sequence all positive tests on arrivals, to allow us to spot a trend in any incoming variant as early as possible. Not only good for us, but good for the countries of departure who perhaps can't do as much sequencing, or not as rapidly, as we can.

Were the arrivals that tested negative on arrival tested again after a week or so? At least some would have caught it on the flight, so I'd wager that 4.8% to be the minimum possible.

What positivity rate in arrivals means flights should be stopped (or routine quarantine imposed)? I'd say 1 or 2% would be bad enough, let alone nearly 5% - regardless of variant concerns.

Overall I'd say there was probably enough data 4 weeks ago to make a decision - positive cases amongst arrivals must have already been increasing (although at that point, I think flights had only recently resumed after being stopped because of the UK variant), the variant had been identified in India, and most likely we had (or easily could have) identified the variant as it arrived. Even then that may well have already been too late to stop it spreading here.

 

[Touring Mars]

It's quite infuriating. The same right-wingers who constantly bitch about lockdowns hurting the economy are the same people who are refusing to do what is needed to avoid lockdowns!

It's as if they just don't understand anything about how a pandemic works, and yet they are the first to moan about it when things go badly.

It has been obvious since Day 1 that the less seriously the virus is taken, the more serious the consequences are going to be. Conversely, tough, swift and intelligent measures can (and should) have saved tens of thousands of lives, and saved billions of economic damage, and yet these measured are "worse that the virus" to some people. They are most definitely not.

By consistently failing to take even the most simple of scientific advice, we are destined to get the worst of both worlds - a devastating public health emergency and extreme economic hardship. For those who don't believe that restrictions are worth it, just ask New Zealand how the pandemic is going there... it's self-defeating madness, driven by stupidity and ignorance, plain and simple.

Meanwhile, the government are basking in the success of the vaccination programme, even though it is like celebrating a World Cup win because you are 1-0 up in the Quarter Final.

 

[Joey D]

Ted Nugent tests positive for coronavirus after calling pandemic a ‘scam’

Look, I don't want to celebrate anyone getting COVID or anything but there's a certain amount of poetic justice when a COVID denier is infected with something they don't believe is real. He probably still thinks it's a scam though and, of course, he's an anti-COVID vaxxer. That seems fitting too since if there's one person that I can merely look at and say they believe in wild conspiracy theories, it's Ted Nugent.

 

[XJ40]

Has anyone who has denied the existence etc of Covid and then unfortunately caught it, changed their mind about it and reversed their stance publically?

Had my 2nd vaccine 2 days ago and felt rough yesterday but I'm fine now.

 

[Joey D]

Has anyone who has denied the existence etc of Covid and then unfortunately caught it, changed their mind about it and reversed their stance publically?

Had my 2nd vaccine 2 days ago and felt rough yesterday but I'm fine now.

Like a famous person? Maybe?

As for less famous people, it happens all the time. I talk to a number of nurses several times a week and many of them work in critical care. It's amazing to hear their stories about how patients they've had who were COVID deniers change their position. I guess having a near-death experience and being hooked to a vent will do that to you. There are even some stories about patients saying "I thought this was all fake" right before they get hooked to a vent and then never get a chance to talk again because they end up dying. It's sad to hear the nurses talk about it because you can tell it's really playing with their emotions.

 

[Northstar]

I finally managed to snag an appointment to get my mind control chip. Initial insertion is on Tuesday (4/20, sweeet) and the final activation will be on May 11.

8 hours after my first shot and the only side effects I've felt have been soreness by the injection site and a minor headache not even severe enough to warrant an Advil. I am kind of worried about the second one though just because that's supposedly when the Pfizer's side effects really show themselves.

 

[McLaren]

Look, I don't want to celebrate anyone getting COVID or anything but there's a certain amount of poetic justice when a COVID denier is infected with something they don't believe is real. He probably still thinks it's a scam though and, of course, he's an anti-COVID vaxxer. That seems fitting too since if there's one person that I can merely look at and say they believe in wild conspiracy theories, it's Ted Nugent.

Oh sweet. So he turned down any care to combat his diagnosis, right? Why receive treatment for something that's fake?

 

[Darla Starch]

8 hours after my first shot and the only side effects I've felt have been soreness by the injection site and a minor headache not even severe enough to warrant an Advil. I am kind of worried about the second one though just because that's supposedly when the Pfizer's side effects really show themselves.

Had Pfizer #2 the other day and nothing worse than an arm aching if I lifted it past my jaw, and that lasted less than shot #1; then again, mileage may vary.

 

[UKMikey]

Had Pfizer #2 the other day and nothing worse than an arm aching if I lifted it past my jaw, and that lasted less than shot #1; then again, mileage may vary.

My mum's second Pfizer shot was pretty much the same in terms of the symptoms being much less severe than the first shot.

 

[XJ40]

Like a famous person? Maybe?

As for less famous people, it happens all the time. I talk to a number of nurses several times a week and many of them work in critical care. It's amazing to hear their stories about how patients they've had who were COVID deniers change their position. I guess having a near-death experience and being hooked to a vent will do that to you. There are even some stories about patients saying "I thought this was all fake" right before they get hooked to a vent and then never get a chance to talk again because they end up dying. It's sad to hear the nurses talk about it because you can tell it's really playing with their emotions.

Yeah I should have said someone who is in the public eye, either on tv or social media

 

[ImaRobot]

8 hours after my first shot and the only side effects I've felt have been soreness by the injection site and a minor headache not even severe enough to warrant an Advil. I am kind of worried about the second one though just because that's supposedly when the Pfizer's side effects really show themselves.

Mine went like yours, although I don't think I got a headache - it might have just been usual work. My second is on the 5th, so I'll post an update on the side effects.

Had Pfizer #2 the other day and nothing worse than an arm aching if I lifted it past my jaw, and that lasted less than shot #1; then again, mileage may vary.

That's all I got for the first, just felt like a sore muscle for a day or two. People seem to be all over the spectrum on this. Ive seen co workers miss 2 days of work on the first one, and even more on the second, but my cynical side just makes me think they were milking the time off lol.

 

[TB]

I am kind of worried about the second one though just because that's supposedly when the Pfizer's side effects really show themselves.

I was worried, too, and while it was worse than the first shot (hard not to have been when there was virtually nothing with the first!), I didn't need to take anything or miss any work. Hopefully you are similar. 👍

Thing 1 gets his second Pfizer on Thursday.

 

[Joey D]

Oh sweet. So he turned down any care to combat his diagnosis, right? Why receive treatment for something that's fake?

Nah, COVID has a Strangle Hold on him, even though he thinks it's only Cat Scratch Fever and probably hopes it doesn't get Out of Control and leave him Paralyzed. Hopefully, he doesn't have to go to the hospital though since it'll be a Motor City Madhouse and he'll ignore Just What the Doctor Ordered. Perhaps he just needs some time out in the wood hunting with Fred Bear for the Great White Buffalo.

As a Michigan native, I have to know Ted Nugent songs or I get exiled to Ohio. Also, I lose the right to say "ope", call it "pop", or eat a pasty.

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In all seriousness though, I'm not sure if he's anti-vax or not. He's just anti-COVID vaccine because, uhhhhh? Actually, I have no idea. His Trump daddy supposedly is the reason we have the vaccine so I'm not sure why Nugent, like all other Trumpians, aren't fighting each other to get their one true supreme leader's miracle drug.

 

[Darla Starch]

Nah, COVID has a Strangle Hold on him, even though he thinks it's only Cat Scratch Fever and probably hopes it doesn't get Out of Control and leave him Paralyzed. Hopefully, he doesn't have to go to the hospital though since it'll be a Motor City Madhouse and he'll ignore Just What the Doctor Ordered. Perhaps he just needs some time out in the wood hunting with Fred Bear for the Great White Buffalo.

Look at you Live It Up with these puns, no Klstrphnky going on here. Did you go Cruisin for Good Friends and a Bottle of Wine afterwards?

(and no I totally didn't dig through his discography to cobble together this list)

 

[UKMikey]

Look at you Live It Up with these puns, no Klstrphnky going on here. Did you go Cruisin for Good Friends and a Bottle of Wine afterwards?

(and no I totally didn't dig through his discography to cobble together this list)

Ted read the Writing On The Wall about Fauci's Stormtroopin' Hammerdown. Perhaps hydroxychloroquine is just a Smokescreen to him until he winds up experiencing Death By Misadventure. (This Journey To The Center Of The Mind of Nugent was heavily assisted by Google.)

At any rate crapping his pants won't get him outta this one like he says it did the draft (or Kaitlin Bennett would be first in line).

 

[TexRex]

In all seriousness though, I'm not sure if he's anti-vax or not. He's just anti-COVID vaccine because, uhhhhh? Actually, I have no idea.

If he's opposed to receiving the COVID vaccine, he's anti-vax. One doesn't have to be opposed to all vaccines to be anti-vax when the basis for opposition is irrational (with no implied correlation between irrational belief and skin color), as it's sure to be in this instance.

 

[Joey D]

New COVID hot spots, same as the old COVID hot spots.

What 5 states are driving 75% of US COVID-19 cases?

• New Jersey
• Michigan
• Pennslyvania
• New York
• Florida

Honestly, none of these surprise me. New York relies heavily on public transportation and the governor is too busy sexually harassing his staff, Florida is governed by a complete moron, Pennslyvania relies heavily on public transportation in major urban areas and half the state thinks the election was rigged, Michigan has a huge contingent of COVID-deniers and anti-maskers who want to kidnap the governor, and New Jersey is, well it's New Jersey.

 

[Danoff]

New COVID hot spots, same as the old COVID hot spots.

What 5 states are driving 75% of US COVID-19 cases?

• New Jersey
• Michigan
• Pennslyvania
• New York
• Florida

Honestly, none of these surprise me. New York relies heavily on public transportation and the governor is too busy sexually harassing his staff, Florida is governed by a complete moron, Pennslyvania relies heavily on public transportation in major urban areas and half the state thinks the election was rigged, Michigan has a huge contingent of COVID-deniers and anti-maskers who want to kidnap the governor, and New Jersey is, well it's New Jersey.

Number 6 is what you'd expect... Texas.

 

[Touring Mars]

New COVID hot spots, same as the old COVID hot spots.

Sounds very like something a spokesman for the WHO once said...

 

[CodeRedR51]

Number 6 is what you'd expect... Texas.

I'm in Brownsville this week. Everywhere I go people are wearing masks, indoors and outdoors. Even went into a gift shop on South Padre Island that had a "no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no problem" sign on the door and the handful of people inside had masks on.

 

[Danoff]

I'm in Brownsville this week. Everywhere I go people are wearing masks, indoors and outdoors. Even went into a gift shop on South Padre Island that had a "no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no problem" sign on the door and the handful of people inside had masks on.

I know people in Texas, it is not all like that.

 

[Nexus]

https://www.theguardian.com/society...nation-hubs-to-help-get-economy-back-on-track

You know the Australian government is useless when a hardware store is doing more about vaccinations than them. What a joke.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Number 6 is what you'd expect... Texas.

I'd have expected it in the list but somewhat higher. What helps Texas stay "low" in the figures, is it the geographical dispersion compared to other high-spread states?

 

[McLaren]

Number 6 is what you'd expect... Texas.

Of course. You've got Gov. Hotwheels out here already lying that Texas is very close to herd immunity because of "simple math".

 

[Touring Mars]

Of course. You've got Gov. Hotwheels out here already lying that Texas is very close to herd immunity because of "simple math".

I wonder if that is the same 'simple math' that the government in India used to convince themselves they had 'beaten' COVID via herd immunity.

I believe that the US is in a fundamentally better position than India by virtue of the speed and scale of the vaccination drive... but even then, I would still not be complacent, especially as new variants start to spread.

As for India, what is happening there right now is a catastrophe, and it will likely be many weeks before things start to get better - I just hope it doesn't get even worse, though I suspect it will. What is happening in India should serve as a brutally stark warning to anyone who thinks their town, city, state or country has 'beaten COVID'.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I know people in Texas, it is not all like that.

Just stating my observations.

 

[Danoff]

Just stating my observations.

To what end?