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I don't know about anyone else, but I still wear a mask in public, even though I'm vaxxed. I saw the Spider-Man movie last Saturday, and despite everyone having to show proof of vaccination to get in, I still wore my mask for the whole movie. It's really not that big a deal.
 
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I just scheduled my booster shot. The earliest appointment I could get in my local area was Feb 1, more than a month away. Still, it needs to be done.
I just checked out Walgreens using a Seattle zip code. The have appointments available as early as Jan 11.
 
I just checked out Walgreens using a Seattle zip code. The have appointments available as early as Jan 11.
I appreciate that, but I'm in south King County. I need to limit it to within 15 minutes because my car has a bad head gasket.
 
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I don't know about anyone else, but I still wear a mask in public, even though I'm vaxxed. I saw the Spider-Man movie last Saturday, and despite everyone having to show proof of vaccination to get in, I still wore my mask for the whole movie. It's really not that big a deal.
I picked seats far away from others when I saw the film, but the row behind me still ended up being completely filled. Wasn't brave enough to remove my mask, though it wasn't that bad to be honest.
 
I picked seats far away from others when I saw the film, but the row behind me still ended up being completely filled. Wasn't brave enough to remove my mask, though it wasn't that bad to be honest.
My best friend and I have gone to see each of the MCU movies in the theater this year. For the first three (Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and Eternals), there were only about a dozen people in the theater each time. It was incredibly easy to keep our distance from others and I felt comfortable removing my mask. But for Spider-Man, the theater was packed. There were people right next to us on each side, behind us and in front of us. No way I was taking my mask off. But honestly, once the movie started, I didn't think about the mask at all.
 
Lockdowns are useless.

The Netherlands are closed for just about anything, and what do my extremely selfish fellow countrymen do? Flooding Antwerp and Aachen so bad that the only traffic jams are on the roads leading to those cities.

****ers.
 
Our department manager that tested positive last Thursday was still testing positive as of yesterday. This is the guy that didn't want to get vaccinated because he doesn't see many people except his family, was in good shape because he worked out a lot, younger guy, yadda yadda yadda the same nonsense other anti-vaxxers spew out.

Well he give it to his wife and his young son and the co-worker that sits a few feet away who is also a anti-vaxxer and our delivery guy that goes to the gym with the manager most nights. So out of 5 people total in our department we're now down to two of us. Both of us have been fully vaccinated along with our booster shots. But his bad decision to not get this taken care of way back when he could have has now greatly affected the two of us that were responsible. We're having to try and do their work along with ours. We didn't get lunch yesterday and it's looking like we're not going to get lunch today either. So thanks a lot asshole!!! Your decision is a personal choice right? Only effects you right? **** you!!
 
Our department manager that tested positive last Thursday was still testing positive as of yesterday. This is the guy that didn't want to get vaccinated because he doesn't see many people except his family, was in good shape because he worked out a lot, younger guy, yadda yadda yadda the same nonsense other anti-vaxxers spew out.

Well he give it to his wife and his young son and the co-worker that sits a few feet away who is also a anti-vaxxer and our delivery guy that goes to the gym with the manager most nights. So out of 5 people total in our department we're now down to two of us. Both of us have been fully vaccinated along with our booster shots. But his bad decision to not get this taken care of way back when he could have has now greatly affected the two of us that were responsible. We're having to try and do their work along with ours. We didn't get lunch yesterday and it's looking like we're not going to get lunch today either. So thanks a lot asshole!!! Your decision is a personal choice right? Only effects you right? **** you!!
Can you let his manager know how short-staffed you are due to his "great decision-making"?
 
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Okay so my daughter and I went to lunch and the place was hopping, so we had a bit of a wait to be seated. Despite there being a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Mask...No Service" sign both at the entrance and on the hostess station, the older couple(?)--a short, round woman and a slightly less short and slightly less round man--who arrived just behind us are standing there, maskless. Everyone else waiting is masked, as is everyone leaving. There are just a few glances but nobody's saying anything about it. I might have if Jess wasn't with me.

Anyway, we get to the front of the line about half an hour after arriving and the hostess says it shouldn't be much longer, then she looks past us and says to the maskless guy, "Sir, I'm afraid the two of you have to leave." He asks why, with a ****-eating grin like he's getting off on challenging norms, and she explains very politely that patrons who won't wear masks are not to be served. He then asks what happened to freedom of choice, and without missing a beat, she says that it hasn't gone anywhere and that it's being exercised by not serving those who refuse to comply with the restaurant's simple request. So the guy reaches into his jacket pocket and pulls out a cheap disposable mask, and starts to put it on. "You'll have to try returning for a later seating because you won't be served during this one," she adds. The ****-eating grin vanishes and the guy says he wants to ask the manager if he knows she's being a "mask Nazi." Because those are actual words that one is inclined to use. Amazing. "I can probably do you one better and get the owner," she says. "He's working the dining room but he'll tell you that he actually told me to be a mask Nazi."

That was apparently the last straw and the guy turns to leave, but first reaches at the wall as if to snatch something off of it, except everything's pressed behind a sheet of plexiglass that he stubs his fingers on before punching it and then flapping his hand because it must have hurt. Most of the people waiting erupted in laughter and he storms out. The short, round woman looks confused and waddles behind, shaking her head.

I told the hostess that I was proud of her and we got seated.

Why is it so hard?
 
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Me, who's getting ready to go work in a patient-facing role.
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Okay so my daughter and I went to lunch and the place was hopping, so we had a bit of a wait to be seated. Despite there being a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Mask...No Service" sign both at the entrance and on the hostess station, the older couple(?)--a short, round woman and a slightly less short and slightly less round man--who arrived just behind us are standing there, maskless. Everyone else waiting is masked, as is everyone leaving. There are just a few glances but nobody's saying anything about it. I might have if Jess wasn't with me.

Anyway, we get to the front of the line about half an hour after arriving and the hostess says it shouldn't be much longer, then she looks past us and says to the maskless guy, "Sir, I'm afraid the two of you have to leave." He asks why, with a *-eating grin like he's getting off on challenging norms, and she explains very politely that patrons who won't wear masks are not to be served. He then asks what happened to freedom of choice, and without missing a beat, she says that it hasn't gone anywhere and that it's being exercised by not serving those who refuse to comply with the restaurant's simple request. So the guy reaches into his jacket pocket and pulls out a cheap disposable mask, and starts to put it on. "You'll have to try returning for a later seating because you won't be served during this one," she adds. The *-eating grin vanishes and the guy says he wants to ask the manager if he knows she's being a "mask Nazi." Because those are actual words that one is inclined to use. Amazing. "I can probably do you one better and get the owner," she says. "He's working the dining room but he'll tell you that he actually told me to be a mask Nazi."

That was apparently the last straw and the guy turns to leave, but first reaches at the wall as if to snatch something off of it, except everything's pressed behind a sheet of plexiglass that he stubs his fingers on before punching it and then flapping his hand because it must have hurt. Most of the people waiting erupted in laughter and he storms out. The short, round woman looks confused and waddles behind, shaking her head.

I told the hostess that I was proud of her and we got seated.

Why is it so hard?
Hostess is a hero.
 
Hostess is a hero.
I liked the place already but I like it more now. The smoked brisket and buttered spaetzle was ****ing ridonkulous.

@Joey D that really sucks (hence the "poo" reaction). Fingers crossed.
 
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Can anyone explain to me the whole "masks in a restaurant" thing when you have to take it off to eat anyway? I just avoid them all together (mainly because I can't stand the general public and avoid places with large amounts of people) but if you have to take them off to eat it makes the whole requirement thing a bit pointless.
 
I liked the place already but I like it more now. The smoked brisket and buttered spaetzle was ****ing ridonkulous.

@Joey D that really sucks (hence the "poo" reaction). Fingers crossed.

Feel free to plug the place and location...?

Amazingly, most people are pretty good about leaving their masks on at airports and when getting on planes. The problem is that everyone gets around to eating and drinking if the flight's at least an hour, so it's kind of pointless. The flight attendants aren't really policing these things much anymore, unless someone's acting up.
 
https://www.dailykos.com/tags/antivaxxchronicles

I've been reading these stories almost daily. They're all stories of anti-vaxxers/maskers and their tragic deaths. I don't read them for the schadenfreude. To be honest, I don't get any joy out of hearing about people dying from their own stupidity. Their deaths are genuinely tragic. I read them to try to understand the mass delusions the anti-vaxxers/maskers believe against all evidence to the contrary.
 
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I've been reading these stories almost daily. They're all stories of anti-vaxxers/maskers and their tragic deaths. I don't read them for the schadenfreude.

Personally, it's just as frustrating to hear about some of these people. My kids' first-grade teacher died earlier this year from COVID; I have no idea if she didn't wear masks or not (and have dared not ask), but it made me angry upon hearing of her death, because she was actually a wonderful human being. Younger than my wife and I, so friendly, and was one the hardest-working teachers in the district. But this ceaseless scourge got her, too.

To some people, the handful of inconveniences given up, are somehow much more important than giving up everything. I expect that attitude from a child that won't eat their vegetables*....so short-sighted.

* except for steamed broccoli, then I can understand
 
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https://www.dailykos.com/tags/antivaxxchronicles

I've been reading these stories almost daily. They're all stories of anti-vaxxers/maskers and their tragic deaths. I don't read them for the schadenfreude. To be honest, I don't get any joy out of hearing about people dying from their own stupidity. Their deaths are genuinely tragic. I read them to try to understand the mass delusions the anti-vaxxers/maskers believe against all evidence to the contrary.
Anchoring heuristic or anchoring bias might have to do with it. Humans have a tendency to stick to the first piece of information we receive on a subject and it is difficult to move our opinions even in light of evidence that would suggest we are wrong or that first piece of information was wrong. I think that effect can be lessened if you have good critical thinking skills or if you were brought up in an environment where logic, healthy debates, and so on were encouraged.

In the case of these people I am guessing it would be pretty difficult break away from their stupidity because they have what they see as authority figures such Fox news/Infowars/instertyourtinfoilhatnewscompany anchormen, uneducated and or unscrupulous celebrities and politicians, feeding them lies and stupid nonsense. Plus their social circle will be comprised of people who think the same way which just creates a really difficult loop to break.

But then yes, they would also come across with good and honest information about the efficacy and effectiveness of the vaccines. And why doesn't that get in their thick skulls? Richard Sapolsky wrote and spoke a lot about how good we are at creating "Us and them" structures in our mind. And once you have strongly identified with a camp or group you are pretty much screwed in terms of being able to absorb information in an unbiased manner. You just exaggerate your own kindness, knowledge and simultaneously you do the same but in a negative way with those you see as an ''other'. So it will not matter how much of an expert Dr. Fauci is and the ton of knowledge he has, he is in the wrong camp and anything he says will just basically be filtered out.

I read some of those chronicles on the link you posted and it is astonishing but on a few cases I read the way they rationalise when someone in their own circle dies is that they died from the ventilator, or ''they let them die because X'', etc. It is really sad, at times I feel empathy for them... sometimes though.
 
I have to go to a wedding in two weeks. I stress have to, as I was asked to give blessings to the bride and groom. Nonetheless, the venue where it is being held will have at best 40% of full capacity and the guest list is rapidly dropping. I am still anxious about going.
 
I have to go to a wedding in two weeks. I stress have to, as I was asked to give blessings to the bride and groom. Nonetheless, the venue where it is being held will have at best 40% of full capacity and the guest list is rapidly dropping. I am still anxious about going.
I wouldn’t be too worried, I was one of the bridesmen (as it was a lesbian wedding) for a wedding that was held this past autumn. As long as you’re vaccinated, I wouldn’t fret.
 
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I read them to try to understand the mass delusions the anti-vaxxers/maskers believe against all evidence to the contrary.
There's also the cult of individualism that exists these days. A lot of these people are so privileged that they can't imagine having to make a personal sacrifice for the greater good of the group. They only see it as everyone else's job to sacrifice for them so that they can live in comfort.
 
I wonder if he asked for the vaccine while in the hospital?
The guy was against vaccination for all and said only 'vulnerable groups' should be vaccinated. Guess he didn't realize he was in one.

https://www.dailykos.com/tags/antivaxxchronicles

I've been reading these stories almost daily. They're all stories of anti-vaxxers/maskers and their tragic deaths. I don't read them for the schadenfreude. To be honest, I don't get any joy out of hearing about people dying from their own stupidity. Their deaths are genuinely tragic. I read them to try to understand the mass delusions the anti-vaxxers/maskers believe against all evidence to the contrary.
I feel the same: I feel no joy at all when reading those. Folks are really dying due to misinformation.
 
The Mayo Clinic is urging people to ditch the cloth masks:

The Ontario Science Advisory Table is saying the same thing too:

It makes sense considering there's been more and more research being done that suggests that cloth masks might fair as well against Omicron. For those who don't want to wear a surgical mask, or can't like me, they make cloth masks that allow you to put a surgical mask inside of it. Also, for cloth masks, you'll want to make sure they fit properly since so many of the ones you see on Etsy and whatnot are awful. You can loop the strings before putting it around your ears and that will seal it better to your face. In addition, don't be afraid to try a myriad of different masks. It took me some trial and error to find one that worked with my beard and still provided coverage.

If you're also like me and wear glasses, visit your local SCUBA shop and get the anti-fog stuff that divers put on their masks. It works great and I've been using it for some time now.

KN95 or N95 masks will still be your best defense, but those are uncomfortable to wear for any length of time without ear savers.

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In other news, hospitalizations are going HAM in most of the country. In DC hospitalizations are up 168% over the last 14 days with a 796% increase in cases and they still haven't felt the Xmas surge yet. Also, going by the US data you're 5x more likely to get COVID if you're unvaccinated and 13x more likely to die.

The "hottest" spot in the country right now is arguably Florida where Miami-Dade has seen a whopping 1,800% increase in cases. There are some oddities though due to population and test lagging, which leaves some areas of Puerto Rico with a 20,000% increase. If you see news stories (or your Uncle Steve posting on Facebook to show vaccines don't work), just be aware that the data is pretty skewed coming from those areas.

The NYT has a pretty good breakdown of all the data:

It's sufficient to say that this isn't going well.

Thankfully, it's now thought that 2022 will be the end of the pandemic:

However, it doesn't mean COVID will go away, it'll just end up being another virus that causes something similar to the common cold. With a vaccine though, getting a yearly shot should prevent some of us from getting it or at least reducing how crappy it makes us feel. I could see Pfizer expanding its mRNA vaccine to cover other viruses that cause the common cold as well. We could very well be on the cusp of having a realistic prevention for the cold and that would be a historical breakthrough in medical science.

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As for what it's like in the hospital at the moment based on my experience. It's a complete cluster. I saw more patients yesterday be absolute scumbags than I've seen in probably my entire 10 years of being in healthcare. And this is coming from someone who once worked in a clinic where the doctor was arrested for dealing drugs and having to tell those patients to take a hike or we were calling the police. I was called some pretty unique insults when I told people to put their masks over their nose and mouth since Mormons do their best not to swear but still want to get their point across. The best? A suburban mom said I was an "empty-headed fetcher". It took my whole being not to say:

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So ya be safe for New Year and use your head. You don't want to catch the fetching rona.
 
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