CREDIT GRIND - WTC 600 Tokyo Express - Glitches are Dead.
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The Murceilago handles very similar but trades faster acceleration for lower top speed.
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- SpacedustDaddy
Used the Gr.B Mustang. No real short shifting. No stop. Just light coasting before the corners. FM1 yielded .7 laps left. SH with just detuning the front aero and lowering the suspension. Top speed set to 310km/h. Started with default 40:60 diff. Switched to 20:80 at half distance. Got the lead at the esses of Lap 2 and cruised around.
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Do exactly as Praiano's tune below and yes, with wide body.
Ford Mustang Boss 429 '69 - 600 PP - Sport soft - All Track - 1.25
(((MAKE SURE TO LEAVE THE WHEELS/TYRES STOCK, DON'T CHANGE THEM AS IT INCREASES PP!)))
I also installed Racing Air Cleaner/Silencer, Bore Up and Polish Ports(on top of Praiano's tune). I didn't adjust the ECU/Power Restrictor at all, only front aero(50) and rear(250) as I showed in my previous post. If you're still having problems, post a few images of your tune and I can check to see what you're missing. 🙂
1. I did not change/adjust the top speed, only manually adjusted the gears one by one to Praiano's tune.
2. Only the very first corner(I'm too lazy to brake😝) after the main straight, as you're at max speed and it saves a few seconds, everywhere else no.
It takes time to become familiar with the Mustang's handling characteristics and find the limit of how far you can push it through the corners. Adopt driving with a clean racing line to maintain stability through the turns and you'll achieve fast times. The IM's have fantastic grip on this wet course, and that's what gives you an advantage from Lap 1.
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- engrmariano
i think we should merge this thread to this thread
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Hi!
I've replicated your exact same tune, setting by setting, part by part, and I'm also not even close to your lap times or race times. I'm doing low 2:02 as fastest lap, and high 25 min/low 26 min race time. And these are 1 stop rounds. With a 2 stopper, I'm doing mid/high 26 minutes runs. In all of these attempts, I did no wall riding, no nitrous, nor got stuck in traffic.
As a reference, I was doing low/mid 24 minute runs with the Cappuccino rocket, with 1:55 as FL.
Are you using the Stang price car? Or did you buy it from the LCD?
I could reach your pp now, but honestly, the IMs were not that much better than my SM/SH Setup before. But i also am not even close to your times, my FL is a 2:06. Also IMs have only 2, max 3 good laps, then the grip already gets worse and the laptimes become worse too.
For me SM for 5 Laps and then SH for rest is easiest drive.
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I did a lot of runs on Tokyo with the Mustang after tuning it and I guess I somehow learned what it's capable of. When going for fast times, I always drive with clean lines, meaning with minimal screeching of the tyres or sliding but pushing the limits(or close to).
Everyone has a different driving style and for me, the Mustang just felt right, similar to the Alpine A220.
Bought this car from the LCD.
Nice, glad it worked for you finally!I could reach your pp now, but honestly, the IMs were not that much better than my SM/SH Setup before. But i also am not even close to your times, my FL is a 2:06. Also IMs have only 2, max 3 good laps, then the grip already gets worse and the laptimes become worse too.
For me SM for 5 Laps and then SH for rest is easiest drive.
Personally, I find the IM's have much more grip around corners than SM/SS/SH tyres. I think perhaps you're too aggressive driving with the IM's as I can get 5 laps(max) out of a set before needing to pit for fresh rubber. Yeah, once the IM's are red, it easy to spin out in the corners, but whatever tyre set up works best for you and your driving style, stick with it.
After many many runs on Tokyo, this is the best times I've gotten with the Mustang.I could probably shave a few more seconds here and there in the turns, but I don't think I can squeeze anymore out of the Mustang haha. And that 1:55 FL is harder to achieve than I thought lol.I almost had it in one run, then made a mistake in the hairpin.
Edit:Haha, spoke too soon, finally cracked the 1:55 FL!
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Fast but clean laps, that's how I preserve my tyres. I just found out I can get 6 laps out of the IM's doing fast laps but not to their limits.For some strange reason, when the tyres had about 15-20% tread left on Lap 6, they have zero traction. Since 1.25 update,I think PD made some changes to the tyre model.
Too aggressive and you'll prematurely wear out the tyres, handling and lap times will suffer.
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Thats a fast lap,im nowhere near that,the car feels slow but when you check your laptime its`wow,i didnt think i`d gone that fast`.I assume its down to the`lazy`feel of the engine.I did a lot of runs on Tokyo with the Mustang after tuning it and I guess I somehow learned what it's capable of. When going for fast times, I always drive with clean lines, meaning with minimal screeching of the tyres or sliding but pushing the limits(or close to).
Everyone has a different driving style and for me, the Mustang just felt right, similar to the Alpine A220.
Bought this car from the LCD.
Nice, glad it worked for you finally!
Personally, I find the IM's have much more grip around corners than SM/SS/SH tyres. I think perhaps you're too aggressive driving with the IM's as I can get 5 laps(max) out of a set before needing to pit for fresh rubber. Yeah, once the IM's are red, it easy to spin out in the corners, but whatever tyre set up works best for you and your driving style, stick with it.
After many many runs on Tokyo, this is the best times I've gotten with the Mustang.I could probably shave a few more seconds here and there in the turns, but I don't think I can squeeze anymore out of the Mustang haha. And that 1:55 FL is harder to achieve than I thought lol.I almost had it in one run, then made a mistake in the hairpin.
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Edit:Haha, spoke too soon, finally cracked the 1:55 FL!View attachment 1204107
Regarding the tyres,i found that on SH or RH when they were all red i still managed 2 laps to finish the race,lap times went down but nowhere near being undrivable like before the last update.Maybe not being the fastest lapper has its bebefits.
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The engine might sound or feel lazy, but it's neither on the track haha.Thats a fast lap,im nowhere near that,the car feels slow but when you check your laptime its`wow,i didnt think i`d gone that fast`.I assume its down to the`lazy`feel of the engine.
Regarding the tyres,i found that on SH or RH when they were all red i still managed 2 laps to finish the race,lap times went down but nowhere near being undrivable like before the last update.Maybe not being the fastest lapper has its bebefits.
I dunno m8, perhaps it's only the IM's that's changed in this update?
From what I've read in your comments, my assumption is that your driving style is too aggressive, prematurely wearing out the tyres in the process and lap times suffer. Like for example, I can get 6 laps(max) out of IM's but you can only get 2-3 as you stated iirc. Turn on racing line in the game and try to follow that if you need to. Use one car you feel comfortable driving
with, keep pushing for faster and faster laps until you've reached the maximum limits of that car and cannot go any faster, that's when you'll see where you're making mistakes, that's how you improve. I adopted this technique with the Mustang, drove tons of laps around Tokyo and kept getting faster. This car had zero KM's and I've racked up more than 1200KM's just driving it on Tokyo since discovering it last Sunday. Real life racing drivers improve by driving and learning on the race track. I do images only.
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I'm clearly not that good of a driver because I suck with some of the cars that others are really fast at. I found a car(Mustang) that fit my driving style and everything just works, unlike the Rotorccino which I don't like driving due to it being super twitchy at the limit and it's a car I never got comfortable with even if I can achieve quick times with it.I already use racing lines and braking zones.
Well, i don't mind, there is a limit of improvement for everyone, and mine is lower than yours, that's fine. I can win with the mustang and don't mind 1 minute more or less. Thanks for your advices!
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How are people getting sub 24 minutes with the Rotorcinno?
I pit at lap 5 with Inters and do the last 7 laps with Racing Hards. The car is absolutely unstable under braking, not to mention how crap its brakes are, and it also wants to use its rear end as its front end in the high speed corners, and it gets way worse after the tyres are busted. I did 2 runs so far and none of them were below 25 minutes, I spun about 2-3x in each run, in the last lap, my rear RH are done, dusted (no life at all).
What's the best setup around to drive this thing? It stresses the hell out of me as it is.
I pit at lap 5 with Inters and do the last 7 laps with Racing Hards. The car is absolutely unstable under braking, not to mention how crap its brakes are, and it also wants to use its rear end as its front end in the high speed corners, and it gets way worse after the tyres are busted. I did 2 runs so far and none of them were below 25 minutes, I spun about 2-3x in each run, in the last lap, my rear RH are done, dusted (no life at all).
What's the best setup around to drive this thing? It stresses the hell out of me as it is.
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Make sure to do all of your braking in a straight line, even trail braking can be death in the Rotorcinno. Exit corners in a higher gear, I never use 1st, only use 2nd for hairpin and entering T1 then immediately upshift to 3rd for T1 apex and T2 then 4th and 5th for rest of lap. I run BB -2 to take a little pressure off of rear tires, anymore to the front and I just can't get the car to stop. I found out at least for me if I brake a little early then get off of brake before turning in I can roll thru the corners with way more speed than I can with the DP100. Polyphony has some kind of goofy physics for the Roto when you spin, no matter what I do the car always ends up backwards then stops then accelerates to about 10 MPH again even with my foot on brake. It's the only car so far that I have absolutely no control over when I spin, I use a wheel if that makes a difference.
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I'm in the same boat as you m8 🤣
I just don't find the Rotorccino fun to drive at all, squirms under braking, twitchy handling, the arse wants to overtake the front and if if you accidentally breathe on either of the analogue sticks, that's enough to spin it out of control.🤣 This car just doesn't inspire confidence in the wet, quite the opposite as a matter of fact.
Hence why I've ditched it and stuck with the more stable and planted as Mustang.
Yeah nah, as fast as it is, it's a hard pass for me.
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Grimm6Jack
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Ok, I followed Praiano's tune, and this time, the car was a lot more driveable (gotta give it to him, dude is a legendary tuner, huge props).
My tune however has a Ultra High RPM Turbo so it has like 90 more horsepower. Yet I was still only just below the 25 minute mark and I had a spin and some other "almost lost control" moments. So I'm still a minute below the time I saw someone post in the Rotorcinno thread. Need to figure out what I am missing here.
Also, I decided to do 6 laps on the inters and 6 on the hards. I still have good enough tire life on the inters for a 6th lap which would be much faster than doing the 7th lap with the RH completely busted.
I only do 1 of these runs per day though. Just to steadily increase the credit count, I mean, that's the whole point with Tokyo really. After 30 days it's 24.750.000 credits plus the extra 4 million from the 2 Golded Time Trials, making it a moderate income of almost 28 million per month.
Still peanuts to buy all the cars in duplicate or triplicate, but its better than grinding over and over every day. Feels far less of a chore doing it this way.
My tune however has a Ultra High RPM Turbo so it has like 90 more horsepower. Yet I was still only just below the 25 minute mark and I had a spin and some other "almost lost control" moments. So I'm still a minute below the time I saw someone post in the Rotorcinno thread. Need to figure out what I am missing here.
Also, I decided to do 6 laps on the inters and 6 on the hards. I still have good enough tire life on the inters for a 6th lap which would be much faster than doing the 7th lap with the RH completely busted.
I only do 1 of these runs per day though. Just to steadily increase the credit count, I mean, that's the whole point with Tokyo really. After 30 days it's 24.750.000 credits plus the extra 4 million from the 2 Golded Time Trials, making it a moderate income of almost 28 million per month.
Still peanuts to buy all the cars in duplicate or triplicate, but its better than grinding over and over every day. Feels far less of a chore doing it this way.
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When was that post? After 1.25? Because maybe he was wallriding, which is quite popular now on tokyo.
Do you think you can do 1 stop with only using IMs? Because you could use more HP if you don't need RHs which cost more pp.
You could try the praiano mustang boss tune too, quite a fast and nice ride, but a bit slidey too. i use 2 Stops on IMs or 1 Stop with 5 Laps SM and 7 on SH.
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Worked and worked well. I did a 25:24 RT. Very slippery drive the first 2-3 laps, might change the suspension, because it shouldn't affect the pp.
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