CRZ Race closed, Well done PaulMac and w.g.e. Pics included
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I'm not so sure about that (not that it's a bad thing). But side by side driving in a slightly slower car can be just as taxing as driving a rocket that is on the edge of control, but not bumper to bumper or side by side with another car in your class.
Any thoughts on how qualification will work? Live pre-race or pre-quali in the days before the race? Honestly I really like a pre-quali system because you really find out who is going to show up versus people that just sign up and you never hear from them again. It does take additional coordination and time though.
As far as the draft strong/weak that decision should be combo specific. There are cases where we've opted for strong in the WRS because passing is too difficult at the low setting. The cars need to come up to speed before the draft really kicks in and every car has it's own draft profile -- these cars may have very little. If you haven't tested it you don't know. Who wants to play follow the leader for the entire race. The draft is highly dependent on the cars/track/speed in question and a blanket statement the "the draft is already strong enough" is a gross simplification.
In fast race cars that's surely the truth, but with slower cars (without wings) sometime the draft at weak never makes a difference as far as getting a clean pass in before the corner... You end up with dive bombing instead as it's the only way to complete the pass. It needs to be tested both ways and the race director decides what sort of race he wants. Given this is an enduro and you want to pick tires that will allow some pit strategy then passing via short pitting etc. give you another option to get past besides an on track pass.
Having said that I'm not a big fan of the draft "equalizing" the field and creating artificial "packs". And you definitely don't want to induce a strategy where drivers do not want to be in the lead though going into the final lap / final few turns. That's just trouble.
My recommendation: If in doubt, go with weak. Only choose strong if you have a definite reason to do so, but there are valid reasons.
If you haven't tested with multiple cars on track maybe you can schedule a multi car test. Only need 3-4 guys and about 30-45 minutes. Test tires and the draft and make decisions on those first.
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Unfortunatly I dont have time for the pre-quali system, its a great way of doing qualifying and definatly sorts out who is a definate.
The strong draft worked well on the race I had with the standard CRZ which gave me this idea a while ago, but will have to a bit more testing on the spoon with the higher pp, so I will get a multi car test done.
Tyres I've choosen sports hard for the race they last a while which is why i've added mandatory pit stops, sports soft are way to grippy for the Standard CRZ, very little braking.
I've edited first post with the date and laps and will move the thread into the spot race section in a few days
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Might be up for this, would be the spoon for me 
. Sports Hards are a perfect choice for these cars might I add 
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. Sports Hards are a perfect choice for these cars might I add .
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Might be up for this, would be the spoon for me
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Joshua1994 / joshua1994 / British / Spoon CR-Z / Grey / Red
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After driving it, I love it, so im in for sure 
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paulmac2k9 / GTP_PaulMac / Scottish / Spoon CR-Z / Sapphire Metallic (Dark Blue) / Yellow
Fyi my colours are similar to my avatar
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.paulmac2k9 / GTP_PaulMac / Scottish / Spoon CR-Z / Sapphire Metallic (Dark Blue) / Yellow
Fyi my colours are similar to my avatar
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Nice to see the sign ups coming in 👍
I put you into reserve for now just let me know if you can make it 👍
Yep sorry about that I went of mygranturismo site when I made the thread and it said 114bhp (my ps3 gets put in a cupboard when Im not using it) so I copied it of there
, I meant to change it when I edited the thread.Standard CRZ 124 bhp with oil change, 126 bhp once broken in.
I've also changed mandatory pit stops back to 1, which it was suppose to be lol
Will sort one out soon, will try to get if for a weekend for timezones.
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Also I notcied the strong draft setting as WRP said it may be ok but for the Spoons I rekon it will be too much as they have at minimum weight around 220bhp+. So id vote weak for the sake of the Spoons but we will see if we do any practise rooms .
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Also I notcied the strong draft setting as WRP said it may be ok but for the Spoons I rekon it will be too much as they have at minimum weight around 220bhp+. So id vote weak for the sake of the Spoons but we will see if we do any practise rooms
No problems, I will definatly get some practice races sorted out.
My lounge should always be open even if Im not online, just click on the coffee cup to see who is in there.
So closer to the time if people want some more practice just post in here to see if anyone wants to join you in there.
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Yep 126hp is the limit.
Ill be on now and again through the week, if you see me online just send me a message. apart from this sunday night from about 9pm
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I took the Spoon purely because the standard is ok but I like to be able to tune my Fwds to my overly sideways liking . (And it looks better in Pirtek 
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But im sure the standard Cr-z is fine stock.
. (And it looks better in Pirtek .)But im sure the standard Cr-z is fine stock
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Leaning toward the Standard, but any advice from anyone experienced that might help make my choice....taking into consideration my experience or lack thereof.
The Honda cr-z is easy to control and all you can change is the brake balance, so there is no need to find a tune.
The Spoon cr-z however has an abundance of choices. All performance parts installed will give you around 15-20pp over the limit so there is options as to what level you tune, eg: full weight reduction instead of max power.
Then you will still need to find a tune that works well for yourself. The car I have been testing with is still a little understeery and would need to be adjusted if I was planning on racing it.
For anyone just wanting to jump in and go the Honda is the easier option as the car is assured of being on par with everyone.
