Curiosity - The Next Mars Lander

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Not sure if this is the best place for this or the Space thread, maybe we can rename this thread to cover all Mars exploration?

Anyway, Mars Opportunity Rover which continues to defy expectations (8+ years and 22 miles later) is investigating possible clay-like minerals which were discovered by an orbiting satellite. More info to come, but for now some photos:

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The photo below looks like ones we've seen before, but NASA is saying that the materials that make this up is completely different from the last "blueberries" they've looked at before.

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http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/dec/HQ_12-420_Mars_2020.html

NASA Announces Robust Multi-Year Mars Program; New Rover to Close Out Decade of New Missions


WASHINGTON -- Building on the success of Curiosity's Red Planet landing, NASA has announced plans for a robust multi-year Mars program, including a new robotic science rover set to launch in 2020. This announcement affirms the agency's commitment to a bold exploration program that meets our nation's scientific and human exploration objectives.

"The Obama administration is committed to a robust Mars exploration program," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said. "With this next mission, we're ensuring America remains the world leader in the exploration of the Red Planet, while taking another significant step toward sending humans there in the 2030s."

The planned portfolio includes the Curiosity and Opportunity rovers; two NASA spacecraft and contributions to one European spacecraft currently orbiting Mars; the 2013 launch of the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN (MAVEN) orbiter to study the Martian upper atmosphere; the Interior Exploration using Seismic Investigations, Geodesy and Heat Transport (InSight) mission, which will take the first look into the deep interior of Mars; and participation in ESA's 2016 and 2018 ExoMars missions, including providing "Electra" telecommunication radios to ESA's 2016 mission and a critical element of the premier astrobiology instrument on the 2018 ExoMars rover.

The plan to design and build a new Mars robotic science rover with a launch in 2020 comes only months after the agency announced InSight, which will launch in 2016, bringing a total of seven NASA missions operating or being planned to study and explore our Earth-like neighbor.

The 2020 mission will constitute another step toward being responsive to high-priority science goals and the president's challenge of sending humans to Mars orbit in the 2030s.

The future rover development and design will be based on the Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) architecture that successfully carried the Curiosity rover to the Martian surface this summer. This will ensure mission costs and risks are as low as possible, while still delivering a highly capable rover with a proven landing system. The mission will constitute a vital component of a broad portfolio of Mars exploration missions in development for the coming decade.

The mission will advance the science priorities of the National Research Council's 2011 Planetary Science Decadal Survey and responds to the findings of the Mars Program Planning Group established earlier this year to assist NASA in restructuring its Mars Exploration Program.

"The challenge to restructure the Mars Exploration Program has turned from the seven minutes of terror for the Curiosity landing to the start of seven years of innovation," NASA's associate administrator for science, and astronaut John Grunsfeld said. "This mission concept fits within the current and projected Mars exploration budget, builds on the exciting discoveries of Curiosity, and takes advantage of a favorable launch opportunity."

The specific payload and science instruments for the 2020 mission will be openly competed, following the Science Mission Directorate's established processes for instrument selection. This process will begin with the establishment of a science definition team that will be tasked to outline the scientific objectives for the mission.

This mission fits within the five-year budget plan in the president's Fiscal Year 2013 budget request, and is contingent on future appropriations.

Plans also will include opportunities for infusing new capabilities developed through investments by NASA's Space Technology Program, Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate, and contributions from international partners.
 
That's nice, but it takes assumptions into play such as a period of water existence that was present for millions of years, rather than as for ten's of thousands of years. Depends on who's opinion you read as to which is true. Good render though.
 
It is a good what if experiment, thinking about the time taken for the planet to lose enough of its atmosphere to the solar wind, and if that time was enough to allow at least some biology on the planet. The multi-cellular variety anyway, if Earth is any indication, there can be bacteria living anywhere in any condition.
 
The volcanoes on Mars would be a mountaineer's dream. Holy crap those things are giant.
 
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Survivor: Mars. Literally.

Hopefully the voting off stops once they launch.

Also hopefully it doesn't degrade into Snooki vs. Honey Boo Boo.
 
We could always just shift every reality TV star to Mars now, for the sake of posterity.
 
Heck, why stop there? We could ship all our undesirables to Mars. We'll call it Australia II.



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Mars One's proposal it's absolute fantasy, they rely on hardware that's not even designed and none of their proposed mission hardware has ever flew (Falcon Heavy and the Big 5m Dragon) and if you read through some of their studies on how to support the colonists with crops and energy you'd be amazed on how simple maths can put their numbers under suspicion.

Honestly, if a manned Mars mission happens it will be by the hands of NASA, unless the Chinese speed up in the next three to five decades.
 
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Heck, why stop there? We could ship all our undesirables to Mars. We'll call it Australia II.

That would be New Australia. The second one is always New!

New York. New Jersey. New Orleans.

Oh, yeah.... Birmingham. It's not New Birmingham. Maybe nobody here knew about the old one....
 
That would be New Australia. The second one is always New!

New York. New Jersey. New Orleans.

Oh, yeah.... Birmingham. It's not New Birmingham. Maybe nobody here knew about the old one....

:D

New Australia works.
 
NASA just had a telecon update for Curiosity. One thing pointed out I thought was interesting was this:

This image maps the traverse of NASA's Mars rover Curiosity from "Bradbury Landing" to "Yellowknife Bay," with an inset documenting a change in the ground's thermal properties with arrival at a different type of terrain.

Between Sol (Martian day) 120 and Sol 121 of the mission on Mars (Dec. 7 and Dec. 8, 2012), Curiosity crossed over a terrain boundary into lighter-toned rocks that correspond to high thermal inertia values observed by NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter. The green dashed line marks the boundary between the terrain types. The inset graphs the range in ground temperature recorded each day by the Rover Environmental Monitoring Station (REMS) on Curiosity. Note that the arrival onto the lighter-toned terrain corresponds with an abrupt shift in the range of daily ground temperatures to a consistently smaller spread in values. This independently signals the same transition seen from orbit, and marks the arrival at well-exposed, stratified bedrock
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I'm surprised I actually beat you to this R1600Turbo :sly:

Anyway, the MSL tracks have been imaged from orbit, including the rover itself:

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Shows progress that's visible from orbit, which is good news 👍 and kind of cool, making a proper footprint on another world
 
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