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The 08 GTR is significantly faster in Race B, just bought it and in the first 10 laps I’ve already knock a full second off my qualifying times (was using the 16’ Lexus before) went from a 1:30.18 to a 1:29.19.

Edit: and with another 3 laps down to a 1:28.71
 
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GT5Power
I ran into someone who was very clearly named after a certain German far right party.
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Auto Union?

Dairyworker
I spent way to many laps chasing that time and getting increasingly more agitated....
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Yeh, that's when it becomes a game of diminishing returns. You start making mistakes which leads to more mistakes. Step away from the console and watch YouTube videos of puppies and kittens 👍.
 
sturk0167
Just tried my first race B of the week (voodoovaj started on the pole and won). It was remarkable to see how many people crash during that race. :lol:
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Yes, it's amazing how many go off - I've been starting in P14-16, and finishing in about P6, without overtaking a single car!

People are not getting too many red SRs either, penalties have definitely been relaxed.
 
Sven Jurgens
Why do I keep doing this to myself, racing during dirty hour. I can't remember the last time I saw a clean 7:30 pm race, I always lose SR in that timeslot. -6 SR this time to 93. I was up to 32K DR in the afternoon, now after 3 dirty hour races down to 28K. Punted off to last 3 races in a row.

One race had a red bar connection parked in the bus stop, not ghosted! He was reported as last during the race, yet at the end suddenly appeared in the grid as one of the only ones without a penalty and blue S.

7pm to 8pm EST, PD should just turn the server off :crazy:

Yep, 7:50 pm race again, all from one certain nation... 89 SR now. Dive bomb in the chicane from so far back he practically split the car in front of me in two. I ended up with a 3 sec penalty in the aftermath, then he punted me off in the right hander a bit further on. A shame as I was having an awesome close race with the Mexican in front of me who got split in two.

Let's see what SR.B is like, can't be worse than SR.S at this hour. That's where I am now. I had to deal out some street justice after getting rammed off and spun out by two different drivers and getting SR Down for it. I got them both but paid in SR. Worth it after this last hour. Wth.

One of them, the rammer, was in my next race. He was SR.A. I passed him cleanly first then he started ramming again, brake checking, punting. So I checked his profile on KP
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PD stop matching these people in SR.S lobbies. One or two of these will ruin the race for most of the lobby.

Of course I still got SR Downs for some of his punts, down to 59. I didn't feel the need to hit him back, as the penalty system at least did something this time and got him out of the way at the penalty zone. Anyway it's pointless to hit these people back, yet you can't pass them either with all the ramming and brake checking...
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Ban.
 
Hasnain282
I went 0.4s quicker in the '08 compared the '16 car and you were quicker than me in the '16 one so you should be able to find the time.


Yeah you have to be a little patient at the start of that S section. I'd say the hairpin at the end of sector 2 is much more important in these cars compared to others as well as you're flat out all the way to the last corner so it's all about getting a good exit there.
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I finally did it, nowhere near your new time but quicker than I ever managed with the other car. It's really tough to put a full lap together and be consistent over the curbs in the middle sector.
 
Sven Jurgens
Why do I keep doing this to myself, racing during dirty hour. I can't remember the last time I saw a clean 7:30 pm race, I always lose SR in that timeslot. -6 SR this time to 93. I was up to 32K DR in the afternoon, now after 3 dirty hour races down to 28K. Punted off to last 3 races in a row.

One race had a red bar connection parked in the bus stop, not ghosted! He was reported as last during the race, yet at the end suddenly appeared in the grid as one of the only ones without a penalty and blue S.

7pm to 8pm EST, PD should just turn the server off :crazy:

Yep, 7:50 pm race again, all from one certain nation... 89 SR now. Dive bomb in the chicane from so far back he practically split the car in front of me in two. I ended up with a 3 sec penalty in the aftermath, then he punted me off in the right hander a bit further on. A shame as I was having an awesome close race with the Mexican in front of me who got split in two.

Let's see what SR.B is like, can't be worse than SR.S at this hour. That's where I am now. I had to deal out some street justice after getting rammed off and spun out by two different drivers and getting SR Down for it. I got them both but paid in SR. Worth it after this last hour. Wth.

One of them, the rammer, was in my next race. He was SR.A. I passed him cleanly first then he started ramming again, brake checking, punting. So I checked his profile on KP
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PD stop matching these people in SR.S lobbies. One or two of these will ruin the race for most of the lobby.

Of course I still got SR Downs for some of his punts, down to 59. I didn't feel the need to hit him back, as the penalty system at least did something this time and got him out of the way at the penalty zone. Anyway it's pointless to hit these people back, yet you can't pass them either with all the ramming and brake checking...
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A second SR rating, which was an overall or rolling average would sort that.
 
Odiesback
Trying to squeeze all I can from theMOTUL GT-R in Race B... after many hot laps I am down to 1:30.109. That includes flat out in to Chicane of Death... goal is to have in below the 30s. Let’s see!

I tried to Xanavi but I have been slower in it. In all fairness I have only driven few laps in it. Sticking to the GTR since I have already created a cool livery for it :D

Edit: just realized they're both GT-Rs :)
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KMGMC
The 08 GTR is significantly faster in Race B, just bought it and in the first 10 laps I’ve already knock a full second off my qualifying times (was using the 16’ Lexus before) went from a 1:30.18 to a 1:29.19.

Edit: and with another 3 laps down to a 1:28.71
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I qualified well for Tokyo but dropped so much SR in races I switched to some Dragon qualification last night. Only a hand full of laps, and thankfully both the 08 and 16 GT-R liveried so whichever was fastest was race ready. Since everyone said the 08 was the car to go for I jumped straight in. Absolutely horrible time. Could not get it to turn in right even playing with brake balance from + 5 to -5. Most of all I could not get it to gear down fast enough. I use a G29 and could only describe the gear change as "spongy". I watched top region replays and they seemed to be able to plip down through the gears no problem. Best was a 1.31.9 and miles off where I'd expect to be. So, I tried the 16. Gears were sharper and turn in was more direct. First lap in the 16 was already better than my 08 best time. I finished, still only with about 10 laps per car, with a 1.30.8 on the 16. Still way off where I'd expect to find myself (should be a 1.29.5 or thereabouts) but it does show that, as usual, the META car also has to suit your own driving style.

For the record, I'm also faster at Tokyo in the Megan Gr4.
 
6BK
I qualified well for Tokyo but dropped so much SR in races I switched to some Dragon qualification last night. Only a hand full of laps, and thankfully both the 08 and 16 GT-R liveried so whichever was fastest was race ready. Since everyone said the 08 was the car to go for I jumped straight in. Absolutely horrible time. Could not get it to turn in right even playing with brake balance from + 5 to -5. Most of all I could not get it to gear down fast enough. I use a G29 and could only describe the gear change as "spongy". I watched top region replays and they seemed to be able to plip down through the gears no problem. Best was a 1.31.9 and miles off where I'd expect to be. So, I tried the 16. Gears were sharper and turn in was more direct. First lap in the 16 was already better than my 08 best time. I finished, still only with about 10 laps per car, with a 1.30.8 on the 16. Still way off where I'd expect to find myself (should be a 1.29.5 or thereabouts) but it does show that, as usual, the META car also has to suit your own driving style.

For the record, I'm also faster at Tokyo in the Megan Gr4.
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I am faster in the Mégane too. But I can't complain about the-08 GT-R. But... I drive with AT and TCS 2....
And are at 1:31:06 and not getting faster. On DS4 though.
 
Had a proper run at Race B in the Xanavi Nismo today, firstly dropped my qualy to 28.3, there's still some in there. Then off to the races, four in all. All started in the top three (never pole), and had three meetings with the death chicane. In a race I ease off a little, in qualifying I go flat out, the race causes the problems...

Anyway, four races, two write offs at the chicane on the first lap (almost recovered the second one to 7th but had another brush with the chicane on the final lap!), and two second place finishes. The final race really was a good one. Settled down and got through the first lap but dropped down to 3rd, then set about basically trying to put 2nd off so he'd make a mistake. Had a run down S/F, he went defensive to the left and although I'd got ahead slightly by the braking zone for T1 he had the better line and held the position. As we were fighting, P1 was pulling away until about 60s into L3 when yellow flags appeared! The fight for 2nd became a fight for the lead. Staying close enough to him to be a bother, 0.6s behind into death chicane on last lap I took it as close to flat out as you can without going flat out (if you know what I mean!) and almost got it perfect. Even with the slight clip of the barrier on the exit I was gaining going into the final corner. I move right then to the left, he defends the inside and a little slide I get as we turn into the corner stops me getting the power down earlier for an attempt at a cut back. Resigned to second, but a solid run. Over the line the first four were covered by 1.8s, really enjoyed that race

DR down about 600, which isn't bad considering I lost 1500 for one of my races! But I'm blaming it on my eyes not working properly after a night shift! Time for bed

After a few practice laps somewhere else!!
 
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Not the best pace but the guys behind got some small incidents, some wall slides on chicane of death and so in the end I could make the Epson NSX win!
Pace with this car is a little more difficult as it's twitchy, seems also a larger car so chicane of death really wants you.
I usually do not use the OP car which sometimes is not so smart (like last week with the atenza), but this Xanavi Nismo is amazing and I use it, but eventually may try my luck again with this NSX.

(it was almost a clean race, in replay I could see that P2 got dive bombed in the first corner but escaped)
 
Been a long while since i have had so much fun with GT-Sport, i just wanna thank everyone in Race B, the racing has been ridiculously good, the clean racers have exceeded the dirty ones by a huge margin and as i have said numerous times before, for me it is about racing and not winning (impossible with the way the races are set up). And the GR.2 combo with the Chicane Dragon is such a rush.. i may even edit another GT-Sport video!
 
Had a few practice laps and was feeling steady and confident at Seaside so went for another race B. Ugh. Just crap luck. Thought I was clean but ended up slamming the door hard on the guy behind me into the first chicane and had him wobbly and dropping. Feel bad because we have raced clean several times but didn't think he was close enough for a move. Anyhow, while rolling on from this get a savage divebomb and barge from next driver at the hairpin, who proceeds to push others out of his way and loses it trying to push someone off ag the esses. Here my race unravels as he unghosts while pretty much merged with me and I get punted to oblivion. As much as he was a numbnuts I can't really put that blame on him. As we settle down to finish the lap I pass him last turn. He decides to damn the torpedoes and has a legendary dive at the first turn. Um, he missed. Full speed into the wall and a rage quit. Cost me heaps of DR but nursed my SR back up and got solid laps in so not a total waste.

Gave it another go and should have had a clean race bonus but bounced it in the middle of the CoD to line up my exit a few times. Totally clean race. Lots of crashes, couple of clean passes and go from 10th to 3rd. Get all my DR back and then some. SR back to 99. Calling it a night and a win overall.

Now to see what is up for next week. Almost hoping they hold it to last minute to limit the practice. I sometimes think that helps me.
 
I've decided it's time to drop from TCS2 to TCS1. Already did the first run at DTS. DR is going to suffer a lot, but I'm going to have fun doing it :D

It takes sooo looonnnggg to develop new muscle memory at my age :banghead: :crazy: :lol:

Edit: Well that dropped about 0.3 off my Q time but the following race was untidy. Binned the CoD twice after running it clean the previous three races. P9 > P6 and I've been jumped up from mostly DR-B competition to about half DR-A, but the other driver's SR has gone from all S to mostly A.
 
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Voodoovaj
Does anyone else find the "hit and run" tactic to be far too common? I don't know if I am using the right term. It's when the other driver hits you, or you tap them slightly, in retaliation for a pass and they drive off track to give you a penalty. I'm seeing it in every race. I stopped putting a lot of effort into the Q time, which means I start lower down the order, and this hit and run tactic has no punted me all the way down to DR B and SR C.

I'll have some fun coming back, but it's still a baloney exploit. I hated this penalty when it was introduced and I hate it more now. The penalty should be based on contact force and contact duration, not whether or not someone went off track.
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It's a bit like footballers practicing their diving technique in training, just so they can get an advantage in a match.....Totally wrong and disgusting.......But like the penalty system in GTS, totally acceptable it seems.......... :confused:
 
serlemke
It would be nice to extract from races some misses/crashes on the chicane of death and put all together on a video. There are probably a lot of 'curious ones'.
I still cannot forget the guy trying to pass on the chicane of death... I just kept my line.
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I had to pass in the chicane a couple times out of necessity. Car in front screwing up, angry horde behind, screw up car not giving in, thus only way to go is 2 wide through the bus stop... It can be done, actually the whole way and we both survived and the horde behind us crashed trying to do the same :lol:

But more often it goes horribly wrong. Same situation, car messing up the sharp right still keeps a nose in into the bus stop and death soon follows.

Lobbies are so random. First one this morning almost all red, lots of penalties, I got punted and rammed off 3 times, barely survived with a neutral rating form all the taps and rams. Second one, almost all blue, only 2 red dots. Too bad I crashed in the high speed right again, no coffee yet, and then got screwed by a wall bouncer at the bus stop exit. Try try try again.
 
Voodoovaj
Does anyone else find the "hit and run" tactic to be far too common? I don't know if I am using the right term. It's when the other driver hits you, or you tap them slightly, in retaliation for a pass and they drive off track to give you a penalty. I'm seeing it in every race. I stopped putting a lot of effort into the Q time, which means I start lower down the order, and this hit and run tactic has no punted me all the way down to DR B and SR C.

I'll have some fun coming back, but it's still a baloney exploit. I hated this penalty when it was introduced and I hate it more now. The penalty should be based on contact force and contact duration, not whether or not someone went off track.
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It’s happening far too often now. People bumping you then grazing the wall on the straights, these things...
 
Hi to all :)

Yesterday I started race at Tokyo with SR A , one Clean race and in the following two races my SR dropped to B (red B), so i started to let the people go at the beginning of the race in order to avoid the kamikaze behaviour at the first curve and to save my SR ..
after many sabbatic races after 22 pm i returned to SR A but in the last (for me) race of the day ...



The guy of the crashed Audi, in the after race wrote me that i was idiot and dirty .... (My SR was BLUE A .. his RED B ..no comment)

IR
 
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Just dropped on for a quick race B. Wish I hadn't. Guy at the back of the pack pretty much stopped in the middle of T2. I'd thought the car infront was trying to outbrake them, when actually he was trying to avoid them, I arrived max braking on what is pretty much a single line, meaning I span him around for a pen. Then had three death chicane issues and trailed around at the back with a highly erratic French driver who represented more danger than the chicane. Dropped 800 DR and 3 SR, which will take three races to recover. Not good.

Still got massive grip difference between qually and race - circa 1.5 seconds on average lap time. Completely mystified, it's like a different car.
 
I don’t know who would unironically enjoy racing at Tsukuba or the Tokyo Expressway courses. They’re fun to drive on and could be very fun for time attack, but they’re some of the worst courses for racing I’ve experienced. I’d argue the Nordschleife being in a similar category. (Edit: I’d also remove the solid walls from the Dragon Trail seaside chicane, and replace then with gravel traps.)

In all cases, they’re still very fun to drive and potentially do time attack, but there’s no run-off area and they’re too narrow for passing. And you just know that most gamers can’t race, so they’ll divebomb and try to pass at literally any corner, while giving no space at all, which is further exacerbated by the short length of the races, which gives drivers less chances overall per race to improve their position. These courses are among some that I’d bar from ranked races, though not ranked time trials. It’s not like you’d be unable to race on these courses in lobbies either, so I don’t think anything would be lost.

Honestly, I’d really rather have any hypothetical future iterations of the Roadster Endurance race (both in the campaign and online) back at Apricot Hill, rather than Tsukuba, which isn’t even really raced with cars in real life. It has time attacks with cars, and motorcycle racing, but not car racing, AFAIK.
 
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Sven Jurgens
Wow, just wow. Down to 49 SR now, 4K DR down. SR.S is definitely still better than SR.B at DT: Seaside. I might have to do some Tsukaba races tomorrow to get out of SR.B as it's a game of roller derby tag in GR.2. This describes it pretty well
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What stands out most is the insane places people try to go two wide.
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Hopefully I didn't add to this too much- I was accidentally slow through T3 and then wanted to let you pass on the esses- but that didn't work out.
 
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S A Debre
Oh I just realized, I've seen you several times before! Now I feel like I gotta compile a list of everyone's usernames and run through it before races so I can know who I'm not supposed to ram off. :D

EDIT: Wait how is this even possible if you're in A+/S? Now I'm just really confused.
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I was on my alt account, R4M_Konsta, who's in C/C. I don't link its KudosPrime in my sig because the SR graph is not for the faint of heart. :lol:
 
I don't know what next week's races are, but I can only imagine they'll be an improvement of this week, which has a mostly terrible and un-fun course selection for as far as I've experienced. Unless it's just Tokyo Central, Suzuka East, and/or the Nordschleife.
 
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