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That is a silly strategy. 7 stops would leave enough time for a cheeky donut at the end.
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@GOTMAXPOWER is Generally one of the quickest drivers out there. Even more impressive, is he uses a controller.
You'll often see him in top split races, if you watch most youtube streamers.
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More I think about it the 2 stopper should work. I only lost 3 seconds pitting so with 2 stops, say 3-3-3 vs a 4S and 5M you get 2 laps extra on softs (+2) and 3 laps less on worn rubber (+5) ..... so you should end up in front.
Was in this race and was wondering how many times I saw you pit, did not realize it was every lap lol
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Well red Vettes aren't faster, but they are more consistent and did 2 good races making 3-4 places each time. Now in the Stang and 1st Q lap was close to best, 2nd took 1 sec off and felt there was at least another second in there. Keep forgetting to swap tyres though and starting with softs. Car seemed fine, hard to tell when every lap is bumper cars. But 4 laps on softs is about the limit. Maybe a 2 stopper for it will try that next.
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Groundfish
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The Stang is super stable. Great car for the Mountain.
Ran 2:00.7 and shared under TPC search term.
Enjoyed a macchiato during the lap that cars just so stable and easy to use. Hits 173-174 down Conrod...
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Stang is my second most used Group 3 car but on softs and mediums, again I ask what it does that the AMG doesn't?
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Well I really struggled with the Dipper in the AMG, better in the Stang and Vette. In the DBR9 you don't even notice a problem. YMMV and if the AMG suits your driving you should use it.
Groundfish
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I think AMG vs Vette is a good comparison. But Stang too...
AMG is slightly stiffer compared to Vette. So, I think it is a little less forgiving than Vette in my experience. IMO the stiffness kinda gives you less time to keep the car loaded while turning in...
For me it’s springs and dampers are a little unforgiving vs Vette, and on worn tires the rear gets loose to the point you gotta turn TCS down or you get full stopped mid corner if you make a mistake.
Mustang is far more stable and brakes better with its wider stance, plus the Stang has balls on top.
The stability really makes a difference here on drivability imo. Stang is forgiving on the springs and dampers and eats curbing like it’s not there.
I will say AMG is quite formidable in good hands, however so is Vette, and for me Vette is a much smoother drive because it’s a little less stiff a little more damped.
The Mustang (thanks grandpa for the reccomendations)
Is unbelievably stable great on the brakes, turns in nice even with the bumps, however it will understeer some in fast turns, and in draft.
The AMG is fantastic, but it’s hard to use well, for me.
I won!2 races late yesterday in DBR9, in 2-3 more I should be back amongst the living after my D E experience Sunday.
I like Mustang for ease of use, great brakes, great straight line speed.
In any event to me it’s pick your poison power car week on C, to see if you can own the Mountain like a king...
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To me the AMG is traction and stability king, the trade off is it's dull front end and pushing understeer turn in feel. I just can't use a car like that at Bathurst without hitting the walls. The vette feels the most balanced in all aspects, a bit of a cumbersome car but easy and predictable to drive.
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Say what now? 8 stops?! With that pit entrance that's just a recipe for insanity. Amazed you can make that work, but unsure why you'd want to torment yourself like that.
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4/4/1?
Groundfish
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I went 6S 3M twice yesterday. Seemed nice in the DBR9. Could go 7-2 also but I stayed conservative.
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Nah I find by lap 4 on the softs I am better off on Fresh mediums.
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Yeah I don't find much difference at all between fresh meds and old soft and most cars are doing 4 good laps max before they drop off so 3/3/3 seems a better choice than 4/4/1 if your going to 2 stop. I'd say the times are about the same unless you get a pen in the pits and 2 stops is double the chances of mucking up.
Groundfish
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Alright, I’ll tell you how I really feel...
In sport mode we all want clean non contact racing. Well sure, but the specter of dirty dives shoves swipes and punts is never far away.
You need to be ready for this. That’s why imo the most stable FR power cars are the better choice.
If a battle breaks out you can brake early park it on the inside and everything just bounces off.
You must be ready to defend yourself. I don’t reccomend revenge, but if you decide to take it imo it’s best to go full nuclear, ONCE, only ONCE, and punt the guy off in a hard brake zone. It’s not reccomended to take revenge however if a guy asks for it too many times it’s gotta be that way.
Ultimately why bother with handling cars when they are su unstable and easy to bully? Unless you’re in top split imo best to avoid those...TCS comes into its own in powerful stable cars...Bumped in a corner? So what.
With trail braking these big cars can turn well, but it takes practice.
You can practice in a 911 or R8 and try to start pole and runaway, but in real sport mode, in the pack, you gotta be an inside hugging door slamming junkyard dog. Peace through superior fire power. People want games, fine, make it a drag race by parking on apex.
MR SUCKS LOL
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/8b30d294-42d0-4329-aefe-94dba6d8b35c
In sport mode we all want clean non contact racing. Well sure, but the specter of dirty dives shoves swipes and punts is never far away.
You need to be ready for this. That’s why imo the most stable FR power cars are the better choice.
If a battle breaks out you can brake early park it on the inside and everything just bounces off.
You must be ready to defend yourself. I don’t reccomend revenge, but if you decide to take it imo it’s best to go full nuclear, ONCE, only ONCE, and punt the guy off in a hard brake zone. It’s not reccomended to take revenge however if a guy asks for it too many times it’s gotta be that way.
Ultimately why bother with handling cars when they are su unstable and easy to bully? Unless you’re in top split imo best to avoid those...TCS comes into its own in powerful stable cars...Bumped in a corner? So what.
With trail braking these big cars can turn well, but it takes practice.
You can practice in a 911 or R8 and try to start pole and runaway, but in real sport mode, in the pack, you gotta be an inside hugging door slamming junkyard dog. Peace through superior fire power. People want games, fine, make it a drag race by parking on apex.
MR SUCKS LOL
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/8b30d294-42d0-4329-aefe-94dba6d8b35c
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I know it is driver dependent, but is anyone using any Brake Bias on the Mazda Roadster in Race A. The one turn (only turn.lol).... I can't seem to find a line I like that will get me some rotation without too much of a speed loss. I have been breaking earlier than most, cutting across, breaking again and the trying to hug the inside curb and not exit along the left curb at all. That seems the fastest if you get it right. The outer line feels too "understeery" to make the turn at enough speed to make up for the extra distance. I am set at TSC 0. I That is time trial fine but I don't seem fare well when the bumping starts.....lol
While I am posting, I had a ton of fun last week in the R8 LMS in Brands Hatch at TSC 2. I was using the 911 because it is so stable (but slow), and I know the R8 is tough to handle, but I drove it like the 911 and was just cautious about 2 particular turns that want to oversteer you in the wall..lol. (graham hill bend and stirlings, I think). I found that if accelerated just before straightening up and was smooth on the accel, that it worked out ok. But damn, if you just touch a blade or grass in the R8 on the last sweeping turn (after the sheene curve ...) it is game over... Having fun and learning lots from reading posts and viewing youtubes... I'd be very content to end up a steady C racer.
While I am posting, I had a ton of fun last week in the R8 LMS in Brands Hatch at TSC 2. I was using the 911 because it is so stable (but slow), and I know the R8 is tough to handle, but I drove it like the 911 and was just cautious about 2 particular turns that want to oversteer you in the wall..lol. (graham hill bend and stirlings, I think). I found that if accelerated just before straightening up and was smooth on the accel, that it worked out ok. But damn, if you just touch a blade or grass in the R8 on the last sweeping turn (after the sheene curve ...) it is game over... Having fun and learning lots from reading posts and viewing youtubes... I'd be very content to end up a steady C racer.
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seen a lot of different cars on the mountain so far. It seems there is not one favorite that everyone is using. I have been having good runs with the JAG. I will have to try the mustang but i have seen a ton of different rides. BMW, MERC, VETTE, VANTAGE, SUPRA, FT-1, LEXUS, JAG BMW MCLAREN, having fun have not won yet been in some tough rooms lot of top 5 and a few 2nd places have got me back to A+ but the competition is fierce
also can I say the worst/ most difficult pit entry bar none made a mistake this morning that cost me a win. I recvd a 1 sec penalty for cutting one of the corners entering the pits ARGGGG
also can I say the worst/ most difficult pit entry bar none made a mistake this morning that cost me a win. I recvd a 1 sec penalty for cutting one of the corners entering the pits ARGGGG
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Ouch.
This is a hugely challenging track. Moreover, the Group 3 cars transform it into a beast compared to the prior Bathurst/Group-4 combo.
The traffic is tough. I received several 1.0 second penalties for taps. No impact but it 80+% my responsibility to manage the car in front.
I had an off at the chase and, subsequently, it took me almost 30 more seconds to reach the pits... self inflicted pain.
This is my first time pitting at Bathurst. Warning for newbies. Practice the pit entry as it is not a "gimme" compared to other tracks.
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So I tried out the other Aston Martin and it's so stable it's unbelievable, think it might be a little slower in really good hands but I managed to stick to race pace nearly every lap in both meds and softs. Still a few to test out, like the Jag, but so far think this is the best for me.
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Yeah i do think the supra could run a heck of a qualy time and the Jag a really solid race car, will try them tonight.
I did practice but my tyres were fresh, so in race with worn rubber I binned it and lost 7 seconds plus another lap of pain.
The track is hugely challenging, i have spent man an october on reid park and sulman park (the first two fast left handers across the top) and have to say the V8 supercars are a blast to watch. Modern GT3 cars just have too much grip, the supercar, when hustling, looks a handful and sounds absolutely wicked.
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Honestly felt like i needed to brake 50m earlier in the db9 but it still turned a good time.
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I highly recommend that you do this at every track you race. I don't believe there are any "gimme" pit road entrances.
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No brake bias, but I've been using my downshift to 3rd, and the curbing, to get rotation going in. Only had one race, but that's what I did when working on a lap. I haven't really had a problem getting rotation, though I can be a bit overly aggressive on turn in. I have more issues NOT over rotating.
A bit off topic here, but we just had 18+" of snow here. Got home and took my daughter for a drive last night in the snow. All dirt roads that never see a plow. I LIKE driving in the snow. The more the better. I find it relaxing. People at work think I'm nuts. So...as fellow driving enthusiasts, is it just me?
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Not so much nowadays with 🤬 FF cars, but if I had a rear wheel drive car then yes love it. Snow on the roads has nearly gone here, still got 6 inches or so in the garden though.
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Seaside for one is an absolute gimmie.
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- OJBrit
Having some good races.
Race C in a mixed B/C grid. Was 11th on the grid so I started just before Murrays. Thanks game. Someone span right out in front of me so position gained. Then the car ahead went wide at Griffins so up 2. Settled in and overtook those having issues or penalties. Was 5th by the pitstops. Came in lap 5. Moved the cursor over to mediums and it went too far and I pressed 'do not change'
Came out in 3rd as I essentially had a drive for fun through the pits. I let someone go on the mountain due to my tyres. Came in again and got it switched. Came out in 5th as the group behind were fighting. I caught up with a Fin in a 911. He was wobbling about a bit so of course I had a run on him down the Conrod. I go to his right as that is where the gap is and he tries to take the kink normally. He didn't like me being there and I'm on the outside of the first part of the Chase and he shoves me off. I recover fine. He goes deep into Murrays and I line up a move into Hell Corner. Passed. He can't quite get me along the straight and neither does he punt me. (Which I was expecting.) However I cannot go cleanly up the hill and nudge a barrier causing him to get past. Again I get a run along Conrod. He tries to do what the Spaniard did yesterday and grass me. Again I end up on the outside of the Chase and he shoves me off again, but I have more ground this time and hip him off on the right hander. Of course this gives me a 4 second penalty and he decides to pit. I loose 4 positions on the Mountain straight and the Fin gets past me again. A Frenchman mucks up the exit of the Dipper granting me a place. The Fin and an Italian are battling down the Conrod. I hope it gets messy. It does. The Fin does the same manoeuvre to the Italian but he goes well off. The Fin gets slapped with a 3 second penalty and I coast home to 6th. Justice in the end. There's good racing here but too many people hate to be overtaken along the Conrod.
Went back to race A as my brake issue yesterday effected the race.
Started 5th and finished 4th. Had a decent race with a Spaniard (It can happen) and told some divebombers you're not having that place robustly.
This week is quite good.
Race C in a mixed B/C grid. Was 11th on the grid so I started just before Murrays. Thanks game. Someone span right out in front of me so position gained. Then the car ahead went wide at Griffins so up 2. Settled in and overtook those having issues or penalties. Was 5th by the pitstops. Came in lap 5. Moved the cursor over to mediums and it went too far and I pressed 'do not change'
Came out in 3rd as I essentially had a drive for fun through the pits. I let someone go on the mountain due to my tyres. Came in again and got it switched. Came out in 5th as the group behind were fighting. I caught up with a Fin in a 911. He was wobbling about a bit so of course I had a run on him down the Conrod. I go to his right as that is where the gap is and he tries to take the kink normally. He didn't like me being there and I'm on the outside of the first part of the Chase and he shoves me off. I recover fine. He goes deep into Murrays and I line up a move into Hell Corner. Passed. He can't quite get me along the straight and neither does he punt me. (Which I was expecting.) However I cannot go cleanly up the hill and nudge a barrier causing him to get past. Again I get a run along Conrod. He tries to do what the Spaniard did yesterday and grass me. Again I end up on the outside of the Chase and he shoves me off again, but I have more ground this time and hip him off on the right hander. Of course this gives me a 4 second penalty and he decides to pit. I loose 4 positions on the Mountain straight and the Fin gets past me again. A Frenchman mucks up the exit of the Dipper granting me a place. The Fin and an Italian are battling down the Conrod. I hope it gets messy. It does. The Fin does the same manoeuvre to the Italian but he goes well off. The Fin gets slapped with a 3 second penalty and I coast home to 6th. Justice in the end. There's good racing here but too many people hate to be overtaken along the Conrod.
Went back to race A as my brake issue yesterday effected the race.
Started 5th and finished 4th. Had a decent race with a Spaniard (It can happen) and told some divebombers you're not having that place robustly.
This week is quite good.
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