"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Barney Da Dog]

Had a couple of absolutely brilliant A races last night (B&C/S) Won one with a guy on my rear bumper the entire race - managed to lap faster than my Q-time the last 4 laps.

Tables reversed for the next race, with me in 2nd, until the last corner of the last lap where he went defensive and I briefly led, but lost momentum and ended up 5th. 0.8 seconds from 1st to 6th.

I'm not having much luck with Race B - one of my favourite tracks, but the racing has been extremely dirty. Leave room - shoved wide. Hog inside - rammed off. Alongside - rammed off.

Will try Race C tonight - I'm pretty poor around there. 2:05 is my current best. I'm about 2 seconds off friends who I'm usually close to.

 

[D_Dragline]

That's good advice I think. Those two corners look to be incredibly important seeing as they're both followed by long straights. I'll work on those over the course of the week, maybe work on my lap consistency with the endurance series in career mode.

I seem to struggle between The Cutting and Skyline, often dropping half a second through that section alone - much work is needed I feel.

Why not jump into some races and learn in-race? Following faster guys up the mountain will show you where they’re gaining and the lines they’re taking.

In the same vein as my previous observations, you might need to work on your entry to the Cutting? If you can stay tight left through there, you can get on the throttle earlier and carry better speed into that sector. If you get your lines right it’s flat out almost all the way through that section.

 

[crusselz]

Some times a penalty can throw off the best laid strategies.

Did a two stop 4S/1M/4S. Came 2nd, 2.8 seconds behind the winner.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Why not jump into some races and learn in-race? Following faster guys up the mountain will show you where they’re gaining and the lines they’re taking.

In the same vein as my previous observations, you might need to work on your entry to the Cutting? If you can stay tight left through there, you can get on the throttle earlier and carry better speed into that sector. If you get your lines right it’s flat out almost all the way through that section.

Just thinking of the amount of damage to SR/DR when I start pushing too hard and causing havoc on track - would rather get my track experience levels up first to make my daily race efforts more effective in the long run. Once I've got the basics sorted, then yeah definitely learn from the faster guys on the track and work on race craft within the realms of daily races. But my consistency here is so poor at the moment, I definitely feel like I need to spend more time outside of daily races just to get a rhythm.

 

[das89ca]

That's good advice I think. Those two corners look to be incredibly important seeing as they're both followed by long straights. I'll work on those over the course of the week, maybe work on my lap consistency with the endurance series in career mode.

I seem to struggle between The Cutting and Skyline, often dropping half a second through that section alone - much work is needed I feel.

My suggestion would be to learn from races or training with faster players. My largest improvement came after I joined the community in my country and started racing with them in private leagues. In just 3-4 months racing and training with them(at least 7-8 drivers were faster than me, some by a lot) I have improved myself from a high B rated driver to an entry A+(now 51k DR), and I can compete with the best drivers in my country for podiums and even the odd win now and then.

Also to mention that I have made real friends and had a lot of fun. In the last 1-2 weeks took it to the next level, started a racing team and we will compete in some private team based leagues also.

 

[NSP525]

If your newer to a track don't be afraid to just get in a race, do some qualy laps but don't get hung up on setting a record just familiarize yourself with the track. Go in to the race with the mentality of just surviving and having clean laps, don't be afraid to yield on the mountain and live to fight another day. Penalties are race killers here so staying off the walls and other cars paint goes a long way but at the same time it's so easy to misjudge any part of this track. You really just want to get out there and start turning laps in a race, no substitute to running with other cars on track. You'll pick up on where others are going faster than you also, makes it more obvious than just watching a replay from a top player imo.

Ran a few more race C's myself last night and top lobbies are very tight, usually 10 or more of us within a second which makes for very close racing. No amazing results, got bumped down to SR B after a not so great race, cleaned up and easy win in a drop split and now back up to SR A. Should have another cruiser race before being thrown back in the top split gauntlet.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

There is always circuit experience. It was made for this very thing.

 

[barak181]

There is always circuit experience. It was made for this very thing.

It's almost like it was made to give you experience. On the circuit.

But seriously, the only way to get better after learning the basic turning and braking points it repetition. Lots and lots of repetition. I find it easier to do a ton of laps and learn how to deal with traffic on a particular track by doing that lapping in races - after I've spent time on the basics in the circuit experience and free practice, of course.

Last time we were at Bathurst, I made it my goal to improve from terrible at this track to merely bad at this track. I think I succeeded. I finally pried myself away from Tsukuba (which I'm pretty good at) and finally dove back into Bathurst last night with the intention of improving this week from merely bad to mediocre. I've done 3 races so far without binning it at all, so I guess I'm on my way.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I don't know how you guys find such quick qually times at Mount Panorama! I ran 11 laps last night, in the Merc, and the best I managed was a 2:02:9XX. Average laps - when I managed to string together back to back laps without some form of ghastly mistake - were mid 2:03's and some fairly poor 2:05/06's. But for the life of me I can't figure out how to find another second, let alone 3 or 4 seconds! I think I'm going to have to study fastest lap replays to get my head around it, but has anyone got any tips in the meantime? I've not entered a race yet because I'm not comfortable with my lap times or the pit entry yet!

I ran a 2.01.3 in the Merc, optimal 2.00.7. Not blinding fast but around that 2%ish slower than fastest lap that means I have the pace to run with high B and low A drivers.

I am willing to bet the bulk of the 1.5 seconds between us is the downhill braking into the dipper. YOu need to go much, much harder through there than you think. Do not brake until you get to the audi sign.

For reference points, sector 1 I do in 18.9, 18.7 on a blinder, and I apex mcphillamy at 214kmh.

In saying all that, the first comment was correct, consistency will pay off in the races as guys make errors. If you can reliably circulate in the high 3's you will do fine, easier if you do a 2 stopper, I did 4S 3S 2M last night and it is a fast option IF you can gap the car behind by 4 seconds before pitting.

 

[NSP525]

A top time at Bathurst is literally you flying down the mountain yelling "the brakes are gone!" and somehow not hitting the walls on the way down haha. Even if you get the mountain right you still stand to lose a good chunk of time on the straights if you get a bad exit before them. One of the toughest laps to put together in the game.

 

[AfraidRacer]

A top time at Bathurst is literally you flying down the mountain yelling "the brakes are gone!" and somehow not hitting the walls on the way down haha. Even if you get the mountain right you still stand to lose a good chunk of time on the straights if you get a bad exit before them. One of the toughest laps to put together in the game.

Highly agree. Down to a 2:01.4 now. OPT .1

 

[BombayPhantom]

The DBR 9 has been my go to car for several GR 3 races, and I love how it handles the Mountain. I am now down to 2.03.xx and need to find a few more to get down to 2.02. Also curious to see how the Mustang, AMG, and Mclaren F1 handle here.

I have run 3 races here, and have had a minimum of 4 secs penalty in 2 races. Despite that, I have gained ~3 places by the end of the race. And one podium too. I LOVE BATHURST!!

Running the 5M/4S strategy. Always start on Mediums. The guys at front are surely going to cock it up!

 

[OJBrit]

But seriously, the only way to get better after learning the basic turning and braking points it repetition. Lots and lots of repetition. I find it easier to do a ton of laps and learn how to deal with traffic on a particular track by doing that lapping in races - after I've spent time on the basics in the circuit experience and free practice, of course.

Agreed. During a race you will take lines through corners you will only do because of other drivers. It can put you off for several corners if you have only learnt to go through them by yourself.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Problem starting on mediums is the guys behind get annoyed across the top and hit me and i somehow cop the penalties.

 

[NSP525]

As far as strategy goes I'm thinking of trying some 2 stops today more to just get away from others on track. Tried 4s/4s/1m in my drop split race and it was no slower than my 1 one stop, guess it will be situational as far as finding a gap to run in.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Because of my reset I was in rooms I had no business being in (20 second lead after 3 laps) so pushed hard to see where the tipping pint was on tyres. Basically found my lap 4 soft pace was very similar to lap 2 on mediums, hence I ran the 4S 3S 2M

 

[MidnightRun85]

Because of my reset...

Seen this mentioned a few times - how does a reset happen? Uninstall and reinstall game? Is it an option somewhere in the game? Unsure how this works... ??

 

[NSP525]

Seen this mentioned a few times - how does a reset happen? Uninstall and reinstall game? Is it an option somewhere in the game? Unsure how this works... ??

Too many SR downs in a race and penalties will reset your DR and SR. I dropped from S to B SR last night after a bumpy race, if I had had one or two more incidents it could of been a reset.

 

[barak181]

Seen this mentioned a few times - how does a reset happen? Uninstall and reinstall game? Is it an option somewhere in the game? Unsure how this works... ??

If your SR falls two letters lower than your DR, you receive a DR penalty. There's a few point totals that your DR can be reset to but generally expect your DR to knocked down to match your SR.

 

[The_Tullster]

Seen this mentioned a few times - how does a reset happen? Uninstall and reinstall game? Is it an option somewhere in the game? Unsure how this works... ??

If your SR gets low enough your DR will be reset. People get reset when they're driving dirty and getting lots of penatlies, or when they're victims of poor/dirty driving on the part of other drivers and getting lots of penalties.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Too many SR downs in a race and penalties will reset your DR and SR. I dropped from S to B SR last night after a bumpy race, if I had had one or two more incidents it could of been a reset.

Isn't that just the normal way the SR works? If you have some bad races your grading drops due to rating going down? I would have thought a reset means going back to zero. ??

If your DR falls two letters lower than your SR, you receive a DR penalty. There's a few point totals that your DR can be reset to but generally expect your DR to knocked down to match your SR.

Does your DR not just drop according to race results? Or can it drop massively??

If your SR gets low enough your DR will be reset. People get reset when they're driving dirty and getting lots of penatlies, or when they're victims of poor/dirty driving on the part of other drivers and getting lots of penalties.

So it's an automatic thing, set back to zero and start at E again?

 

[barak181]

Does your DR not just drop according to race results? Or can it drop massively??

It drops massively. There's predetermined levels it will drop to. There's been some highly rated players that have had their SR nuked in just a few bad races and have lost something like 30K DR because of the reset.

 

[MidnightRun85]

It drops massively. There's predetermined levels it will drop to. There's been some highly rated players that have had their SR nuked in just a few bad races and have lost something like 30K DR because of the reset.

Understood. I've not got 30k to drop, I'm sure if I ever get to that stage a reset will be inevitable!

 

[NevilleNobody]

My issue is I creep into the A DR so now if I drop to C SR I get burnt.

 

[NSP525]

Had a reset from 54k down to 15k for DR a while back. Your DR changes based on results on track and who's in the lobby, SR is a live rating of how clean your driving is. Problem is your SR can also be influenced by the driving of others if they are making contact with you also.

 

[Pigems]

I lost 37 SR last night in one race, due to other people hitting me lol. First 3s pen was for a GTR in front spinning out and I had no where to go, even after hitting the brakes. Second 1s pen was after serving my pen, a guy behind caught up and bumped me instead of lifting. 3rd 1s pen was for being side by side in the second last corner and the guy on the inside slightly touching my car. How are you supposed to be able to actually race like this?

It’s the last race on the stream, starts on lap 1 T2 lol.

 

[NSP525]

Crazy I never see more of you guys in lobbies tbh, I see a lot of those names in my lobbies @Pigems but never you lol

 

[Pigems]

Crazy I never see more of you guys in lobbies tbh, I see a lot of those names in my lobbies @Pigems but never you lol

I tend to do dailies at random times, being in the Atlantic time zone doesn’t help me either, I hardly ever see people I know in dailies anymore.

 

[Groundfish]

There is always circuit experience. It was made for this very thing.

And line cones and turn markers!!!

Good morning friends, after another 3 victories last night I am now a BS driver again. After a few more races later I ought to start getting better matching again.
I really enjoyed using the Mustang again in the final race I did yesterday. So far I’ve bounced between Mustang and DBR9.
Re times my main focus on this track is ensuring I’m braking early-early enough to get on power and make strong exits...
Missing apex here from late braking DESTROYS time.

 

[jad866]

I lost 37 SR last night in one race, due to other people hitting me lol. First 3s pen was for a GTR in front spinning out and I had no where to go, even after hitting the brakes. Second 1s pen was after serving my pen, a guy behind caught up and bumped me instead of lifting. 3rd 1s pen was for being side by side in the second last corner and the guy on the inside slightly touching my car. How are you supposed to be able to actually race like this?

It’s the last race on the stream, starts on lap 1 T2 lol.

I was reset yesterday afternoon under similar circumstances (from A+/S to A /B) not that terrible I guess but like you said how are you supposed to race when the slightest of contact which results in no loss of time or position for either driver nets a 3 second PTLY. I got 3sec after going thru a ghosted player on the last turn before start finish...... really what else am I supposed to do there he ghosted went thru cleared him aaaaand 3 sec ( slowing down and waiting is not an option when someone is breathing down your neck just itching to pass as well )