"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[NoStopN]

I was called dirty in a race B a little while ago but I didn't think I was.
I made a video, on the two occasions I show Both perspective.
I think he first ran himself off then on the second occasion he gained overlap on the curb and I stayed on my line so he ran out of curb..
That was maybe not ok, but in the Lambo no TCS and he turns into me, I have to turn back or get TIP manouvered.
What do you think,?

I guess I focused on 2 points of contact in the video, one different from what others may be commenting on. The first possible incident I saw was the last corner of lap 3. Anything before that looked like no contact, no reason for anyone to be angry or call someone dirty. Back to the lap 3 contact, it looks like the rear of your car got a tad loose & he tried to stuff his car in the inside. It didn't work & it appears to me like he had just enough reach to try to PIT you at the last possible moment. The second incident looks clear to me. He closed in on the final lap at the long left hander. I call that the difference in how you have to drive the cars with different drivetrains. He might have gotten some momentum & tried the outside since he couldn't get the car to turn to your inside. He appeared to tap you in an effort to get all 4 tires on the pavement. You having to countersteer to prevent spinning was necessary & he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He only called you dirty because you had as much talent as him (maybe more).

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I guess I focused on 2 points of contact in the video, one different from what others may be commenting on. The first possible incident I saw was the last corner of lap 3. Anything before that looked like no contact, no reason for anyone to be angry or call someone dirty. Back to the lap 3 contact, it looks like the rear of your car got a tad loose & he tried to stuff his car in the inside. It didn't work & it appears to me like he had just enough reach to try to PIT you at the last possible moment. The second incident looks clear to me. He closed in on the final lap at the long left hander. I call that the difference in how you have to drive the cars with different drivetrains. He might have gotten some momentum & tried the outside since he couldn't get the car to turn to your inside. He appeared to tap you in an effort to get all 4 tires on the pavement. You having to countersteer to prevent spinning was necessary & he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He only called you dirty because you had as much talent as him (maybe more).

Yep, felt like a proper pit manouver! I had no choice but to lay back in. So I did.
Well, it's been an adventure running the Lambo this week, all because I was dared to run it. There's been some unexpected spins and some some loose tail wagging but I learned a lot and enjoyed it while it lasted.

 

[D_Dragline]

Race C, not too bad, made a few mistakes but got 6th in the bag....well unless some 🤬 boosts all the way into the chicane and manages to punt me from over 1 sec behind (I'd have ghosted) then I get 9th. He got 1 sec for it I'm getting 3 or 4 because I hit a guy so light I'm not sure contacts been made.

You pulled a few seriously good laps in that race. You’re mostly nailing 5th through Degner 1.

That chump at the end is a serial offender. I think he’s a combination of bad driving with a strong competitive streak. He’ll do almost anything in the last few turns to try and gain places because he doesn’t have the race craft to pass cleanly.

 

[NAXEHT]

Currently sitting with a 1:31.242 on Yamagiwa and that’s without nailing the track limit cutting chicane. I find the first left of said chicane really difficult to turn in and hit perfectly, usually just ending up taking that one “correctly” while cutting the middle one. Would so love to squeeze in under 31. Will keep trying a while but the question is for how long...

 

[NevilleNobody]

nerd

 

[DigDugJones]

You know what really grinds my gears? Getting a 4 second penalty driving through a ghosted car driving the wrong way through a corner.

Ruined my clean race streak and bounced me to B/A from B/S. Not that I'm bitter or anything. lol

 

[D_Dragline]

Done some testing at Monza. It’ll be the usual suspects. Vantage is still fast. Corvette will be good too.

The MR I thought would be a sleeper was the McLaren F1. It’s going to hang with the other big boys, but it’s brakes and turn in will hamper it.

I know the aliens made the RS01 work at Bathurst, I can’t get it to work for me at all. It’s about 1.5 seconds per lap off the pace in my hands.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Did my regular two races in Race C today. They went well, with me finishing 5th in both. Good running into @GOTMAXPOWER tonight, who started last in the second race, but was 7th by lap 2. I didn't stand a chance.

And I’m getting close to having more DR than on my main account. Might need to migrate over by the time the next FIA season starts if this keeps up.

 

[DigDugJones]

100% True Fact:

The guy tagging everyone in the warm-up lobby with "let's have a clean race" is going to be the guy that punts you through a chicane on the first lap.

Avoid this guy like the plague.

 

[Groundfish]

100% True Fact:

The guy tagging everyone in the warm-up lobby with "let's have a clean race" is going to be the guy that punts you through a chicane on the first lap.

Avoid this guy like the plague.

If it’s me I always say pray for clean racing.

I just got home. I’m not motivated to race though in dailies right now.
Had a real vehicle issue irl preventing me from GTS lol. Ironic.

 

[Rotary_Pilot]

So I'm late (very) to the party, but I've picked up GTS and been doing some of the dailies the last couple of weeks and mostly having a good time. Really been enjoying the B race this week.

Tried a bunch of cars, but the RX and the FT-1 were my best. Knocking on the door for B/S.

Besides learning the tracks, my biggest hurdle for now is backing off, even when I should have the spot. Twice I have gone from 1st to last to mid pack getting pushed off the outside of turn 1. I wish B was a 6 lap affair. C is out of my league in the SF this week.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Its weird, when leading, as soon as I back off I make mistakes. I am less likely to make an error at 9/10ths than at 7/10s. Not through bordeom but because I lose my markers, mid corner speed changes, easier to get lost in your own attempt to be careful.

 

[Rotary_Pilot]

That's a fair point. However in these cases both times I missed my braking point, so I ended up wider than I wanted to be. Fair play to take the inside when I open the door, but stay inside if I am still outside. I'd like to think I could have gotten back around later, but held my line and on track out the other drivers just ran the normal line, and I got to run the grass, wall, find a way to reenter the track just before the esses.

Penalties for them, but I got to the back and I'm not getting 13 positions back in 2 or 3 laps. But I could have just lost one or two.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yeah welcome to online racing, strap yourself in and elbows out.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Its weird, when leading, as soon as I back off I make mistakes. I am less likely to make an error at 9/10ths than at 7/10s. Not through bordeom but because I lose my markers, mid corner speed changes, easier to get lost in your own attempt to be careful.

Didn't Schumacher say something similar?? I really don't find driving slow a problem, it's driving fast that gets me every time.

 

[D_Dragline]

Its weird, when leading, as soon as I back off I make mistakes. I am less likely to make an error at 9/10ths than at 7/10s. Not through bordeom but because I lose my markers, mid corner speed changes, easier to get lost in your own attempt to be careful.

On tracks where I am competitive this is a problem for me too. Once I’m in a groove I find trying to run slower throws me off.

I have noticed at Suzuka this week that if I’m conservative through the esses, I lose downforce and can’t get the car turned. When I’m flat out I’m much safer.

The worst thing I can do is say to myself “just take it easy and you’ve got this”. Virtually guarantees I’ll bin it within a few turns.

Definitely not the raptor, i bet on Yaris

It could be old school WRX vs Evo...

 

[OJBrit]

So this weekend has been bad for me sportingwise.
Football team got murdered 6-0!
England decided to do their usual collapse in the Cricket.
And was shoved back down to C DR.

However this did lead me to perhaps get a couple of good results in Race C to build my SR back up.

Yesterday I started on pole. But just too many understeery moments made me make mistakes and a BS penalty sent me back. So I turned pole into 7th place. But I still gained SR.

Today I started 4th. By lap 2 I am in 1st due to mistakes and penalties of others. A French guy is gaining and is obviously faster. O.k. you can go through. He passes me on the Start/ Finish straight. I brake early to make sure I can get round but he just nudges me wide. Thankfully I do not spin on the outside. Then I make my most embarrassing moment in GTS. Come into the pits lap 5. I absolutely murder the entrance, hitting the barrier and spinning facing the wrong way. Thankfully am reset far back enough that I can still go in.

I am still in 3rd and a couple of seconds ahead of 4th. O.k. try and pull away. I sort of do in certain areas and not in others. The gap keeps changing between 4 seconds and 1.7 seconds. 2nd bins it at Casio Triangle and I am up to 2nd. Last lap the guy behind just closes the gap like no tomorrow. I defend into Casio Triangle but he stays behind me. He Plato's me. I get a nudge and have to scramble across the green death. No penalty for him btw.
I cross the line 4th. The French guy who pulled away gets a 1 min penalty (what an idiot) and falls to last. So I get a welcome podium but it was a win that got away. Both my own fault on the pit exit and someone else's due to the push to pass.

Annoyed but it was my best result of the week. And the small gain in SR is welcome.

Oh and the Group B Mission Challenge at Colorado is the only Mission Challenge I have that is not Gold. Had a few tries and got a couple of agonising 2nds. This is going to be fun next week.

 

[jnm23]

Monza should be great this week

Expecting some chicane carnage / Narnia and possible two stoppers - the pit lane is very short

And some use of the cheeky "cut through last chicane to get 2s penalty but gain track position" strategy

 

[sturk0167]

100% True Fact:

The guy tagging everyone in the warm-up lobby with "let's have a clean race" is going to be the guy that punts you through a chicane on the first lap.

Avoid this guy like the plague.

Oh, yeah. I had that experience last week.
The guy didn't just click the pre-written message. He typed out "Guys, let's please do this race cleanly".
Guess who knocked me off the track on lap 1?

It could have been accidental. I don't know, but it made me laugh.

 

[NoStopN]

Its weird, when leading, as soon as I back off I make mistakes. I am less likely to make an error at 9/10ths than at 7/10s. Not through bordeom but because I lose my markers, mid corner speed changes, easier to get lost in your own attempt to be careful.

Yeah, getting into your head & trying to talk yourself into not making a mistake tends to help you make a mistake. When I was trying to score my first win, that would tend to happen. I'm not saying that it still doesn't happen, but it tends to be smaller mistakes that I can likely recover from.

On tracks where I am competitive this is a problem for me too. Once I’m in a groove I find trying to run slower throws me off. The worst thing I can do is say to myself “just take it easy and you’ve got this”. Virtually guarantees I’ll bin it within a few turns.

Reminds me of my first Gr. 2 win at Suzuka. Other cars were fighting & I had checked out. After a pit stop, I told myself not to do anything stupid. I overdrove the car into turn one & went wide onto the runoff area. Ruined a perfectly good CRB too. My bigger issue is when I have the lead & some other driver comes from behind to run me down. I try to hit my marks, look at the differential, make a slip, differential gets smaller. Rinse & repeat.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Oh, yeah. I had that experience last week.
The guy didn't just click the pre-written message. He typed out "Guys, let's please do this race cleanly".
Guess who knocked me off the track on lap 1?

Sounds like the kind of guy who will type "Why did you turn in when I was there????!?!?!?!?!" when he has a 1mm overlap with your car.

 

[NoStopN]

Sounds like the kind of guy who will type "Why did you turn in when I was there????!?!?!?!?!" when he has a 1mm overlap with your car.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Sounds like the kind of guy who will type "Why did you turn in when I was there????!?!?!?!?!" when he has a 1mm overlap with your car.

I always put "Good evening/morning" and "Let's have a clean race." But then I'm actually intending on doing exactly that, so...

 

[BalsBrother]

I think the key to race C is to be patient and don’t make any silly moves. I’ve just started a new profile last week (Dr_Orpheus74, currently B/S 28,000ish) I've done a few race C’s this week and at this level there’s very few drivers I can actually trust to go side by side with. I’ve just let people past rather than defending, I got back past quite a few as they kept making mistakes of ham fisted passing manoeuvres that gave them penalties.

Pretty much what I've been doing too. Actually trying to race is just asking for pens and no one seems to be consistent at this. Drive fastish and keep it on the track is nearly guaranteed a good result.

Yup that has been my race strat too for most of the week just stay out of trouble and not fight early on.

I have found running 1M/5S/5S for my pit strategy works fairly well too or at least it does at my level of racing. The first couple of laps are usually a penalty fest so pitting in after first lap isn't such a big loss. Having the softs and saving the nitrous um overtake for the last stint always nets a few more places too.

Probably wouldn't work in higher lobbies as the margins will be much finer and I would hope less penalties too but for where I am it's doing ok.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I have found running 1M/5S/5S for my pit strategy works fairly well too or at least it does at my level of racing.

Now that I'm a little faster I'm doing this too, before 4M/7S was working but increase in speed means tyres wear more. I sometimes do the 5M/6S if it's really tight.

 

[Rotary_Pilot]

Got up this morning for coffee and a couple races. Really have gravitated to the FT-1, suits me. Thanks for that suggestion earlier in the thread Neville.

At any rate race one, start P3 finish P3, 1,2 and 3 all stayed together 1.5 seconds from 1-3 at the finish with P4 10+ behind me. Traded back and forth cleanly with P2, me through the uphill after first chicane, him back past on the final turn. Good fun.

Race 2 start P2, P3 gets a better exit out of 35R, but still half a cat back at 2nd chicane entry, dive bombs but no penatly since I just barely kept the left wheels on the curb. Dropped to 4, 3second gap to 3 now. Ran him down, he gets a .5 sec for cutting the 2nd chicane juuuust too much. Finish .561 behind but his pen get rounded up and I grab podium and a promotion to B/S.

Now off to go finish building my wife's desk.

 

[djidane57]

guy blindly turns into me while i'm there , so he wrecks himself , claims its my fault then proceed to game the penalty system (he's good at it) brake checking me all the time giving me penalties EVERY TIME , good thing is i wont see him for a while

 

[NoStopN]

I talked all week about wanting some SF action & wait until the last day to do it. Guess race B was a bigger lure for me. Going into Suzuka now.

 

[Dave_H_87]

I talked all week about wanting some SF action & wait until the last day to do it. Guess race B was a bigger lure for me. Going into Suzuka now.

Enjoy it. I did two races yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed them, just try to stay out of trouble and you’ll enjoy it*

*disclaimer: might be easier said than done

 

[Mudda Chod]

Cant wait to figure out how I’m going to drive like this with 11 cars around me,




Everyone : But Rally is a time attack motorsport,
PD : Hold my penalties

I really hope it is the N300 Yaris on this track. I've just done a few practice laps and it's awesome!!