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Excited for a lil Italian vacation this week, will be a good week for races im sure and it'll be good to test the legs of some more cars.

Jag, Aston, AMG, Ford are all on my scouting list for the upcoming manufacturers at this one, it'll be interesting to see how the Supra holds up too.
 
Well finally sorted my FIA accounts so on my alt (has higher DR, but lowest SR) decide to put a quali in for C, finally under 1:40 (OK just). Thing is I can see places where I'm losing so much time, but it's hard hooking up the whole lap. Compared to my 1:39.830 I can cut nearly 0.5 on 1st corner and another 0.5 on the esses, add Degner, Spoon and the final corner I could do a low 1:38. This doesn't even come close to the top guys, but I'm not usually this far behind my optimal, just goes to show how good these guys are.
Given up doing Degner 1 at top speed or thrashing 5th, I get the best results easing off or even a slight tap of the brakes. I'm nearly as fast as when I hook it up right, maybe 0.1 slower, but I can do it nearly every time....well that's ensured I go off this game hasn't it.
 
Really fun times at Kyoto this week :D I set a decent TT lap on my alt account and got to have some good and clean races :cheers: Outside moves are possible on a lot of corners and you can go side by side very easily with the track being so wide. Just a shame the chicane exists, which forces single file after the second long left, unlike the Miyabi hairpin in the combined layout. Can't have everything though :P
 
I was able to hit Race C SF/Suzuka today and managed to commit a cardinal sin by punting a GTP brother, @ZiggyS80, at the T1 start. Sorry Ziggy!

The racing is intense. The aggression level varies and there are a few harsh drivers and those few can set/amplify the tone for a pack or race. I have taken a few penalties, all but one of them warranted, but managed to keep my SR north of 90 to stay in the main competitive split.

Edit: Earlier in the week I stated that I was enjoying a little R&R in bumper cars Race A. Errr... the novelty wore off... being shoved back to DFL will do that. Done/over/banished-from-memory.
 
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Little_Guppy
I was able to hit Race C SF/Suzuka today and managed to commit a cardinal sin by punting a GTP brother, @ZiggyS80, at the T1 start. Sorry Ziggy!

The racing is intense. The aggression level varies and there are a few harsh drivers and those few can set/amplify the tone for a pack or race. I have taken a few penalties, all but one of them warranted, but managed to keep my SR north of 90 to stay in the main competitive split.

Edit: Earlier in the week I stated that I was enjoying a little R&R in bumper cars Race A. Errr... the novelty wore off... being shoved back to DFL will do that. Done/over/banished-from-memory.
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All is good, brother. T1 at the start takes a bit luck. I didn’t save this replay, but in the moment I saw it differently.

I had a good start and almost gotten past the orange car in front. I think he must have gotten on the Overtake button to stay alongside. I was way too far outside for comfort. If you hit me from behind it must have been at the same time he sideswiped me. It all happens so fast I can’t be sure, but no hard feelings.

It was the other drivers and their aggression that I was frustrated by throughout that race. Several ambitious moves, but maybe I was overly cautious. There were a couple near misses for me where a car would spin or go off and not ghost. I was pretty happy I finished where I did. See you next time!
 
Have had some good luck with dailies in the last two weeks with Bathurst and Yamagiwa. I finally got the achievement for 15 clean races in a row (after 1300+ Sport Mode races)!

Time trialling at Yamagiwa is tricky, you'll either nail the chicane (by cutting as much of the track as possible) maybe 1/10 times, the rest you will either lose a tenth or two, or get a track limit penalty.

I think I will give Colorado, Fuji and Monza a miss this week... all of those seem like DR resets waiting to happen
 
Rangeraus
Have had some good luck with dailies in the last two weeks with Bathurst and Yamagiwa. I finally got the achievement for 15 clean races in a row (after 1300+ Sport Mode races)!

Time trialling at Yamagiwa is tricky, you'll either nail the chicane (by cutting as much of the track as possible) maybe 1/10 times, the rest you will either lose a tenth or two, or get a track limit penalty.

I think I will give Colorado, Fuji and Monza a miss this week... all of those seem like DR resets waiting to happen
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Last week was good.....

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I'm scared of this weeks races though...
 
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Redneckchef
If they leave the penalty system on the way it is now I vote we give something to the first person who can prove a CRB in race A while actually pushing and racing in it. No drop back and cruise contenders. Any takers?
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I'll let my alt take a shot at it. I don't think it will happen,but you've got to be in it to win it.
 
Re: Monza car choice for next week.

According to data since July 2020 the Vantage is, by far, the fastest lapper according to the lap records here: https://gtsport.r1s3.net/laprecords/42/13. The Corvette was a distant second choice.

***HOWEVER***, the Vantage, and a few other popular choices, were BoP'ed negatively on Feb 1. It will not be as dominant but will probably still be competitive even with a 1% power/weight reduction.

The Nissan GT-R is the highest ranking vehicle that was not BoP'ed. The Merc AMG is next. I expect those to provide competition.

Next up is the Supra. It has had recent success at the last two Gr 3 events so I expect racers will try it at this power circuit even though, historically, it has not been a fast runner at Monza. It was not BoP'ed.

Two vehicles (RS01 and Mazda RX-VISION) received BoP improvements but neither ranked in the top 1000 before the BoP. Anyone care to take these two for a test and report back comparing it to the Vantage/GT-R/Supra/Vette? I am unable to as I cannot lay down consistent laps to save my life.

The formatting is a bit off. You can read the table below as follows: of the top 1000 hot laps, 502 were done in a Vantage and 116 were done in a Corvette.



Code: 
502    ***    Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 '12    
116    ***    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3    
99           Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13    
41           Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16    
35    ***    Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    
25           Jaguar F-type Gr.3    
24           McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95    
21    ***    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R '15    
20           Ford Mustang Gr.3    
18           Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 '10    
17    ***    Hyundai Genesis Gr.3    
12           Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17    
9    ***    Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17    
9           Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15    
8           Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept '18    
8           Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 '13    
6           Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car    
5    ***    McLaren 650S GT3 '15    
4           Peugeot RCZ Gr.3    
4           Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) '15    
3           BMW M6 GT3 M Power Livery '16    
2           Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    
2           Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 '11    
2           Honda NSX Gr.3    
1           Volkswagen Beetle Gr.3    
1           Subaru WRX Gr.3    
1           PEUGEOT Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    
1           Mazda Atenza Gr.3    
1           Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) '16    
1           GT by Citroën Race Car (Gr.3)    
1           BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11    
1           Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3    
        Grand Total    1000


The power to weight change due to the Feb 1 BoP.

Code: 
Gr3    MazdaMAZDA RX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT      1.12%
Gr3    Renault SportR.S.01 GT3 '16              0.93%
Gr3    Aston MartinV12 Vantage GT3 '12         -0.85%
Gr3    LexusRC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17 -0.88%
Gr3    McLaren650S GT3 '15                     -0.89%
Gr3    HyundaiGenesis Gr.3                     -1.00%
Gr3    DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '15             -1.24%
Gr3    VolkswagenVolkswagen GTI VGT (Gr.3)     -1.99%
 
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Little_Guppy
Re: Monza car choice for next week.

According to data since July 2020 the Vantage is, by far, the fastest lapper according to the lap records here: https://gtsport.r1s3.net/laprecords/42/13. The Corvette was a distant second choice.

***HOWEVER***, the Vantage, and a few other popular choices, were BoP'ed negatively on Feb 1. It will not be as dominant but will probably still be competitive even with a 1% power/weight reduction.

The Nissan GT-R is the highest ranking vehicle that was not BoP'ed. The Merc AMG is next. I expect those to provide competition.

Next up is the Supra. It has had recent success at the last two Gr 3 events so I expect racers will try it at this power circuit even though, historically, it has not been a fast runner at Monza. It was not BoP'ed.

Two vehicles (RS01 and Mazda RX-VISION) received BoP improvements but neither ranked in the top 1000 before the BoP. Anyone care to take these two for a test and report back comparing it to the Vantage/GT-R/Supra/Vette? I am unable to as I cannot lay down consistent laps to save my life.

The formatting is a bit off. You can read the table below as follows: of the top 1000 hot laps, 502 were done in a Vantage and 116 were done in a Corvette.



Code: 
502    ***    Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 '12    502
116    ***    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3    116
99           Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13    99
41           Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16    41
35    ***    Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    35
25           Jaguar F-type Gr.3    25
24           McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95    24
21    ***    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R '15    21
20           Ford Mustang Gr.3    20
18           Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 '10    18
17    ***    Hyundai Genesis Gr.3    17
12           Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17    12
9    ***    Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17    9
9           Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15    9
8           Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept '18    8
8           Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 '13    8
6           Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car    6
5    ***    McLaren 650S GT3 '15    5
4           Peugeot RCZ Gr.3    4
4           Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) '15    4
3           BMW M6 GT3 M Power Livery '16    3
2           Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    2
2           Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 '11    2
2           Honda NSX Gr.3    2
1           Volkswagen Beetle Gr.3    1
1           Subaru WRX Gr.3    1
1           PEUGEOT Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)    1
1           Mazda Atenza Gr.3    1
1           Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) '16    1
1           GT by Citroën Race Car (Gr.3)    1
1           BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11    1
1           Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3    1
        Grand Total    1000


The power to weight change due to the Feb 1 BoP.

Code: 
Gr3    MazdaMAZDA RX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT      1.12%
Gr3    Renault SportR.S.01 GT3 '16              0.93%
Gr3    Aston MartinV12 Vantage GT3 '12         -0.85%
Gr3    LexusRC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17 -0.88%
Gr3    McLaren650S GT3 '15                     -0.89%
Gr3    HyundaiGenesis Gr.3                     -1.00%
Gr3    DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '15             -1.24%
Gr3    VolkswagenVolkswagen GTI VGT (Gr.3)     -1.99%
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These were my optimal times after 5 laps in each;

Vantage: 1:47.635
Corvette: 1:47.929
Ford GT: 1:48.112
McLaren F1: 1:48.210
DBR9: 1:48.227
Mustang: 1:48.303
RS.01: 1:49.054

I didn't try the GTR or AMG. The RS.01 felt very slow and VERY unstable. The second chicane is a lottery with it. I'm sure better drivers will find a way to make it super fast.
 
@D_Dragline

Nice and thanks!

I continue to be amazed how some car/track combos work (RS.0.1/Laguna Seca) but the car fails everywhere else.

I am privately hoping that the GT-R does well as it is a car that I have grown to like.
 
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mohitraina91
The way you brake later and corner faster than everyone else, it's like you have more grip than others. Almost like a.... grip hack?

Jks great video man.
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No, he has the special DS4 edition of the Wheel Hack giving him an extra 2-5% speed. You have to download it from steam I heard.

In reality, this is just proof that a DS4 driver can definitely mix it up with anyone. Just depends on who is driving.
 
Did 20+ laps of quali at Suzuka today, endless 1:36.7-36.9s, but never beat my 1:36.695 from Monday. Sigh. Optimal 1:36.111. Had two laps where I was several tenths up going into the Degners ruined by the inconsistent track limits there. :confused:
 
Little_Guppy
Re: Monza car choice for next week.

According to data since July 2020 the Vantage is, by far, the fastest lapper according to the lap records here: https://gtsport.r1s3.net/laprecords/42/13. The Corvette was a distant second choice.

***HOWEVER***, the Vantage, and a few other popular choices, were BoP'ed negatively on Feb 1. It will not be as dominant but will probably still be competitive even with a 1% power/weight reduction.

The Nissan GT-R is the highest ranking vehicle that was not BoP'ed. The Merc AMG is next. I expect those to provide competition.

Next up is the Supra. It has had recent success at the last two Gr 3 events so I expect racers will try it at this power circuit even though, historically, it has not been a fast runner at Monza. It was not BoP'ed.

Two vehicles (RS01 and Mazda RX-VISION) received BoP improvements but neither ranked in the top 1000 before the BoP. Anyone care to take these two for a test and report back comparing it to the Vantage/GT-R/Supra/Vette? I am unable to as I cannot lay down consistent laps to save my life.

The formatting is a bit off. You can read the table below as follows: of the top 1000 hot laps, 502 were done in a Vantage and 116 were done in a Corvette.



Code: 
502    ***    Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 '12  
116    ***    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3  
99           Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13  
41           Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16  
35    ***    Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)  
25           Jaguar F-type Gr.3  
24           McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) '95  
21    ***    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R '15  
20           Ford Mustang Gr.3  
18           Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 '10  
17    ***    Hyundai Genesis Gr.3  
12           Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17  
9    ***    Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17  
9           Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15  
8           Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept '18  
8           Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 '13  
6           Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car  
5    ***    McLaren 650S GT3 '15  
4           Peugeot RCZ Gr.3  
4           Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) '15  
3           BMW M6 GT3 M Power Livery '16  
2           Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)  
2           Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 '11  
2           Honda NSX Gr.3  
1           Volkswagen Beetle Gr.3  
1           Subaru WRX Gr.3  
1           PEUGEOT Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)  
1           Mazda Atenza Gr.3  
1           Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) '16  
1           GT by Citroën Race Car (Gr.3)  
1           BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11  
1           Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3  
        Grand Total    1000


The power to weight change due to the Feb 1 BoP.

Code: 
Gr3    MazdaMAZDA RX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT      1.12%
Gr3    Renault SportR.S.01 GT3 '16              0.93%
Gr3    Aston MartinV12 Vantage GT3 '12         -0.85%
Gr3    LexusRC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17 -0.88%
Gr3    McLaren650S GT3 '15                     -0.89%
Gr3    HyundaiGenesis Gr.3                     -1.00%
Gr3    DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '15             -1.24%
Gr3    VolkswagenVolkswagen GTI VGT (Gr.3)     -1.99%
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Got no recorded lap times, but...The RX-V has one of the highest top speeds(as per Route X). It just falls short of the F1, DBR9 and Ford GT. At Tokyo, it was the only car that could compete with the F1 and Ford GT on the straight. I used it there and at Monza tyre wear Daily. It still has a good top speed at Monza, but it doesn't have the torque. Needs room to stretch. In a tow, it does quite well.
Barcelona was another track it did well at. Again, the torque is a factor. Best way to make speed is with the RX-V's rear rotation. It has a high cornering speed when done smoothly. Chucking the car does not work.

I have a new main account and don't have an RX-V to run. So far, my Gr.3 Campaign gift cars are: DBR9, R8, Genesis, C7, M3, 650S, AMG GT3, Viper and Z4. Plus, any I get as DWGs. I'll see how those go this week.
 
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Welp, C7s, Vipers and Mustangs are at the top in Oceania.

Edit: I'm 2.2 seconds slower, in the DBR9, than the P1 C7.
Edit2: I was using the RM. :lol:
Edit3: There is a glitch in tyre choice. Careful.
 
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MidnightRun85
Have they ****ed up the tyre settings for the race?
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Yep. I started P2 in the DBR9. The P1 Mustang slows early into T1. I gave room and I get smashed by cars behind. I drop to 4th. P2 &P3 get 4 seconds.

They serve their penalties and Me & P1 checked out. I got the lead on Lap 4. We both pit end of Lap 5, for RH. I pull away for the win.

At the start, someone types, "Why can't I seect RS?". Four players DNF'd. It was a 19/19 grid.

On to Race B. Started with the NSX. Finished P2 from P4. An eager RCZ just couldn't resist pestering an 86 into T1 all threw the lap. I got a run on the RCZ and top the inside. RCZ out brakes itself. A scirocco won, but I snatched FL on the 3rd & 4th lap. The Scirocco got FL when it crossed the line, but I got it back .2 seconds quicker. Trying the Cayman next.
 
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Done two race C from the back. 1st is an A to A+ lobby where everyone is really clean and enjoyable racing. Got a white S due to a minor tap in T1.

2nd race was a penalty fest. 4 second in L1 T2 due to brilliant GT sport unghost logic, then another 2 second for a minor tap for someone hitting the corner, down to 87 SR now.

Good luck to all with the penalties this week
 
MidnightRun85
I've not been online today yet (joys of starting work at 7am...) did we get the Yaris as Race A like people predicted?
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05XR8
Evo IV and WRX Type R? Maybe? Would be cool to see many more AWD choices: TT, A45, Skylines.

I'm going to enjoy Monza. Going to be interesting with the hard tyre. Wouldn't be surprised to see something like the Puegeot VGT rise up from the dead.

SOmeone in the FIA thread, pointed out we always get Fuji. Well, there we go. Doesn't mattter where we are, there it is. :lol: No tyre wear. So, still might not be able to gauge the FF overall performance. Should still be fun trying many cars over the week. Might jump in the 458, but it'll probably be the F-Type Show.
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