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I'd love a qualy before the race. That feels more real for me, but I understand why they do it this way.
With the current penalty system there is more drivers at high S rank. As others have pointed out since then it seems to mean that you are matched closer to your DR level than beforehand. So essentially you are currently being matched to people close to whatever your DR is.
Assuming you are racing at a decent time. I did a race at a very much not-prime time the other day and the DRs ranged S-E and the SRs ranged S-C. One guy completed 9 laps at Monza with a fastest lap of 2:10, a mere 13 seconds slower than the race fastest.
 
I'm staying with the GT-R in Race B. Proved it was quick in two races versus A+/A players in FFs and restored my A/S status back(dropped to an/S in that last Monza race- thank you Mr F-Type knucklehead). The main is parked until GR CUP.

Anyway, jumped in the B/S alt(SuperTaikyu). Qualified with a 1:44.8(1:44.4 optimum). An F-TYPE in second got a run on me to at T1. It didn't divebomb. I was giving room just in case. So, a not the best run out of the corner. It gets side by side to the right-hand kink and hits the curb for a tank slapper. I pass it and check out. Set my qualy time for FL.

Watched the replay and the F-Type had a serious battle with an NSX and two TTs. Was getting ganged on by all three cars. Hard racing and a very fast car, kept that player alive and eventually crossing second, where they started. Another F-Type, by that Phteven numbers player, who bumps everyone off during warm ups, moved up from mid-pack to fifth.

GT-R can take a hit from a divebomb, has strong acceleration and fast enough, in a straight-line. Stable handling, good brakes and an alternative to what everyone else are using.
 
This matching was from Saturday on NA. Pretty decent and close imo. I like FIA races for the qual setup. I’d rather they don’t do it for dailies tho.
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What I would like is a time limit spent EACH day of the week for each given race.
So Monday you get 10 minutes after that it’s locked...etc for the rest of the week.
Just a nitpicky thing. Having to qualify every daily would get old quick. Here is another.
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Of course these aren’t at 3 am.
The greatest thing about GTS is the matching imo
16 racers seperated by .7 means you gotta be on your game!
 
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This matching was from Saturday on NA. Pretty decent and close imo. I like FIA races for the qual setup. I’d rather they don’t do it for dailies tho.
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What I would like is a time limit spent EACH day of the week for each given race.
So Monday you get 10 minutes after that it’s locked...etc for the rest of the week.
Just a nitpicky thing. Having to qualify every daily would get old quick. Here is another.
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Of course these aren’t at 3 am.
The greatest thing about GTS is the matching imo
16 racers seperated by .7 means you gotta be on your game!

That does sound good but for newer players like me, qualifying is like trying to gold an extremely hard license test.

For instance, I'm completely new to Lago Maggiore II. It took me a half hour today to hit 1:46.xxx today. Lots of mistakes so I expect it to get a bit faster but I know that if the 1:5x.xxx that I was putting up in the first ten minutes of my practise was official, I would likely not bother with the race
this week.

I think your idea would be very interesting to watch unfold in the higher lobbies, though.
 
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So race C is kind of fun now I have a bit of a handle on how to drive it. Spent the morning in the RC F and using it to learn the track. Going by the alien ghosts there seems to be a lot of corner cutting involved in hooking up a fast lap on this circuit layout.

I switched to the GT-R this evening and have been doing ok with it. Solid top tens again with my best a fifth so far having started at the back as per usual for me on my alt account. (Which is just as well as I got a bit drunk on Sunday and wrecked my DR doing Monza. The lack of a pit stop made it hard to drink beer and drive with a controller but I managed.)

My fastest race lap is 1.50.1 and seem to lap in the low 51's fairly consistently.

At the moment I am thinking I might switch over to the main account tomorrow, set a qualy lap and see if can do better than 5th when I don't fight through the full field.
 
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That does sound good but for newer players like me, qualifying is like trying to gold an extremely hard license test.

For instance, I'm completely new to Lago Maggiore II. It took me a half hour today to hit 1:46.xxx today. Lots of mistakes so I expect it to get a bit faster but I know that if the 1:5x.xxx that I was putting up in the first ten minutes of my practise was official, I would likely not bother with the race
this week.

I think your idea would be very interesting to watch unfold in the higher lobbies, though.

Qualifying is a pain, because many players are very very good at it. It will just take time (no pun intended)
I think Maggiore GP is great but reverse is abysmal. Goodwood and Seaside are both great though for my taste.
To me learning track right means turning on line cones markers brake indicator and learning to drive it like that before anything else.
Using circuit experience is helpful too.
For my money @mistahmca has great technique and guides too.
In order to have the most fun in race imo you gotta qualify to match your racepace. They are two very different things imo.
For example last week on main I was half a second faster on q then on the account I was entering races on. This is because at Interlagos it’s not good to start up front but not have equal pace to those around you.
I generally on dailies look to set a time that’s fairly easy to match in race then adjust it accordingly depending on pace.
In most lobbies if you are getting harassed a lot in race, having troubles staying clean it could be your q lap was too much faster than pace.
You can tell after entering several dailies if this is the case.
I started at nothing in this game, I know what it’s like to be a C with no idea how people are six seconds a lap faster than my best.
My way was never hitting the crash redo crash redo. I just keep lapping in practice along the games given line. If you keep lapping while mistakes and difficulties occur and stay consistent over time able to stay on track and not hit others you will become dangerous (in good ways) in online racing.
It’s difficult. I used Ross Bentley’s book ultimate speed secrets to learn about car control and etiquette etc.
Basically I advise everyone the same. Break the corner into pre apex apex and post apex.
You wanna brake and turn, smoothly blending the two before apex then only at and after apex blend opening steering and throttle.
So learning a new track starts all aids on brake before apex throttle after. Almost always braking should be full then 75 65 55 45 35 25 15 5 percent then zero
Then apex
Then throttle 5 15 25 40 50 60 70 80 90 full (wheel straight)
You don’t ever want to be after apex 50 throttle...LIFT....15 throttle 100 throttle.
Brake smooth from 100 to zero
then apex
Then throttle smooth 0-100.
(Most corners lol)
It’s not gonna come easy and if you’ve never driven a track you haven’t learned it in 30 minutes...
Jmo

I think by weeks end most weeks a lot of players have out qualified their racepace then complain things get dirty.
Later in the week is always a pain you need better q to match the pace.
People have spent all week improving.
Q time is only important to get close to ones racepace imo if looking for fun competition.
 
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Qualifying is a pain, because many players are very very good at it. It will just take time (no pun intended)
I think Maggiore GP is great but reverse is abysmal. Goodwood and Seaside are both great though for my taste.
To me learning track right means turning on line cones markers brake indicator and learning to drive it like that before anything else.
Using circuit experience is helpful too.
For my money @mistahmca has great technique and guides too.
In order to have the most fun in race imo you gotta qualify to match your racepace. They are two very different things imo.
For example last week on main I was half a second faster on q then on the account I was entering races on. This is because at Interlagos it’s not good to start up front but not have equal pace to those around you.
I generally on dailies look to set a time that’s fairly easy to match in race then adjust it accordingly depending on pace.
In most lobbies if you are getting harassed a lot in race, having troubles staying clean it could be your q lap was too much faster than pace.
You can tell after entering several dailies if this is the case.
I started at nothing in this game, I know what it’s like to be a C with no idea how people are six seconds a lap faster than my best.
My way was never hitting the crash redo crash redo. I just keep lapping in practice along the games given line. If you keep lapping while mistakes and difficulties occur and stay consistent over time able to stay on track and not hit others you will become dangerous (in good ways) in online racing.
It’s difficult. I used Ross Bentley’s book ultimate speed secrets to learn about car control and etiquette etc.
Basically I advise everyone the same. Break the corner into pre apex apex and post apex.
You wanna brake and turn, smoothly blending the two before apex then only at and after apex blend brake and throttle.
So learning a new track starts all aids on brake before apex throttle after. Almost always braking should be full then 75 65 55 45 35 25 15 5 percent then zero
Then apex
Then throttle 5 15 25 40 50 60 70 80 90 full (wheel straight)
You don’t ever want to be after apex 50 throttle...LIFT....15 throttle 100 throttle.
Brake smooth from 100 to zero
then apex
Then throttle smooth 0-100.
(Most corners lol)
It’s not gonna come easy and if you’ve never driven a track you haven’t learned it in 30 minutes...
Jmo

I think by weeks end most weeks a lot of players have out qualified their racepace then complain things get dirty.
Later in the week is always a pain you need better q to match the pace.
People have spent all week improving.


All very helpful advice. And I needed to hear that a fast driver wasn't always fast. And I suppose you're right that I can just practice hotlapping elsewhere but I find it to be super convenient to do it in sport mode so that's what I do.

At any rate, the 46 I got so far, which I'm sure will get faster, is already faster than 70% of those in DR B (so far). Thanks, GTBlade. Once I get an even faster time, believe me, I won't enter a race until I can do it consistently.
 
All very helpful advice. And I needed to hear that a fast driver wasn't always fast. And I suppose you're right that I can just practice hotlapping elsewhere but I find it to be super convenient to do it in sport mode so that's what I do.

At any rate, the 46 I got so far, which I'm sure will get faster, is already faster than 70% of those in DR B (so far). Thanks, GTBlade. Once I get an even faster time, believe me, I won't enter a race until I can do it consistently.


It really doesn’t matter what times anyone has or does, all that matters is getting matched into lobbies in a way that you get the right level of challenge for your own ability.
B from C and low to high B is a very very large challenge!
My main went c to b back to c several times before finally taking permanent hold in b.
There’s just soooo much going on in racing combining driving fast then racing.
There’s a lot going on at once and it takes a long time for ones brain to filter out and ignore the unimportant. After time it becomes relatively simpler.
Ultimately nobody cares what anyone else runs, most just want fun races.
It’s not fun if you’re getting destroyed, or winning by 30 seconds.
 
It really doesn’t matter what times anyone has or does, all that matters is getting matched into lobbies in a way that you get the right level of challenge for your own ability.
B from C and low to high B is a very very large challenge!
My main went c to b back to c several times before finally taking permanent hold in b.
There’s just soooo much going on in racing combining driving fast then racing.
There’s a lot going on at once and it takes a long time for ones brain to filter out and ignore the unimportant. After time it becomes relatively simpler.
Ultimately nobody cares what anyone else runs, most just want fun races.
It’s not fun if you’re getting destroyed, or winning by 30 seconds.
I get you. I'll be the first to admit that defending and overtaking are things I need a lot more practice on but I will say that I have already pulled off a few crazy, Days of Thunder type moves here and there in my short time with this game.

A lot of my insistence to not race without a good quali time is due to the current penalty system. Race C at Sardegna a couple weeks back was super fun because I always qualified up front and the drivers there tend to be cleaner for whatever reason. Back of pack has been awful. I don't care what place I come in; I don't care if I lose several positions; I just want clean racing.
 
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Will be running the RC F too just because I like the Lexus stability and brakes. Sure the GT-R is faster but this track in this layout has a lot of weird difficult corners that will spit you off track in heartbeat so for me stability before speed in this case. Keep it on the track first priority and the speed will come later.

I'll be GT-R, while testing the limits of the NSX. :mischievous:

Players still holding onto the Veyrons. They're good in the right hands.

Here is a live look at Veyrons racing other cars in Gr. 4

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Race C will be good fun this week, as long as you don't get dive bombed at the first corner and Big Banky Boy. I'll have a go in each of the different cars, but probably Q in the GT-R.

I plan to Q in the GT-R. I have had some amazing luck in the NSX before, but oh damn, it is sketchier than a police sketch artist. :embarrassed:

I saw several -08 cars in my races. One, a Lexus 08 came second in the last race, starting from the rear, about p17 I think.
He was in top 5 each time. There where other older cars too but they didn't dare so well.

I was able to use the '08 GT-R as a teaching tool the last time Gr. 2 came up. But when I went to the '16, those lessons paid off. I'll likely try the '08 a few times.

All very helpful advice. And I needed to hear that a fast driver wasn't always fast. And I suppose you're right that I can just practice hotlapping elsewhere but I find it to be super convenient to do it in sport mode so that's what I do.

I'll admit to not reading Groundfish's advice, so this may be repetitive. First off, fast drivers aren't always fast. The popular phrase "not a good combo for me" comes up a lot. The Nurburgring for me. Or Monza. Back to this week, I'll give you a solid piece of advice for race C. Use corner & braking markers & brake slightly before you reach them. I tested last night in offline races with RH tires (forgot what we were required to run) & was hitting those marks & sailing right past the apex. I'd also advise what you are planning, practice qualifying laps without the race timer ticking away. Skip a few races & learn a car or any car that you are curious about. As you've read, some people want car stability, while others want speed. Those fools think they have skill & can control the fast cars. :lol: Hey wait, I want a fast car.....:boggled:
 
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I'll be GT-R, while testing the limits of the NSX. :mischievous:



Here is a live look at Veyrons racing other cars in Gr. 4

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I plan to Q in the GT-R. I have had some amazing luck in the NSX before, but oh damn, it is sketchier than a police sketch artist. :embarrassed:



I was able to use the '08 GT-R as a teaching tool the last time Gr. 2 came up. But when I went to the '16, those lessons paid off. I'll likely try the '08 a few times.



I'll admit to not reading Groundfish's advice, so this may be repetitive. First off, fast drivers aren't always fast. The popular phrase "not a good combo for me" comes up a lot. The Nurburgring for me. Or Monza. Back to this week, I'll give you a solid piece of advice for race C. Use corner & braking markers & brake slightly before you reach them. I tested last night in offline races with RH tires (forgot what we were required to run) & was hitting those marks & sailing right past the apex. I'd also advise what you are planning, practice qualifying laps without the race timer ticking away. Skip a few races & learn a car or any car that you are curious about. As you've read, some people want car stability, while others want speed. Those fools think they have skill & can control the fast cars. :lol: Hey wait, I want a fast car.....:boggled:
I feel like I'm making decent progress; I just need the hours.

One thing I've figured out is that lap guides are fine and dandy but after I've done several (many) laps doing what the guides tell me to, I purposely zone out and unlearn everything so I can drive my way. Getting the perfect slip angle on curves is very satisfying and I think a lot of it is driving by "feel".

If I want to truly be symbiotic with the car I'm driving, I have to rely on feel. It's probably the same reason someone who needs to read a book on how to pick up women will probably never actually pick up a woman.
 
Tried to get into race C last night but it was just a struggle. Running my first race with only 1 lap practice and having only done race A for a month was probably a really bad idea.:dunce:

Even once I started to find a rhythm and do ok there seems to be 1 or 2 corners a race where I get it wrong and simply sail way off course. But I haven't hit the wall after the final turn yet so that's still waiting to claim me.

Also got caught behind an NSX and watched that thing swerve, wiggle and squirm all the way around the track. Even had AE_McEwen win a race in that thing and his comment afterwards was no way, that thing spent more time sliding than going straight.

Lexus for race C and I think I'll play some golf bowling in race A tonight.
 
Race B, always say same thing, shame about the stupid chicane ruining the lap. Others will disagree.

Tried the vantage and it feels great at first but as I pushed, I found it reluctant to exit well. Seems to initially turn in but I need to wait that tooooouch longer than I'd like to get on the power or she washes wide. Not once have I got the final corner right and inhave to lift at the COD. ran a 1.45.5 nut have a 45 flatten me somewhere. I think.
 
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This week non qual on B race or A race with qual are the best options for me.
I think B will be most fun from the back to watch the show as you pass by the wreckage.
A is mellow. This week you just gotta run alt and seek good races don’t expect them.
I think C races track is worse than anything even H Tilke coulda invented. I tried it a long time ago and it seems senseless to me. Adding gr2 is like adding fuel to the fire.
Goodwood is fun but don’t expect very clean every time. B same thing. Good fun races to use the I don’t care alt account.
B would be the best bet for dr grinding, but you will really have to grind that q time if you’re worried about such things.
I think both a and b are better combos under a very strict penalty system which is why I say enjoy, on alt rofl
 
I am running an even mix of Lexus and GT-R in race C so far. I find the Lexus is much easier to drive for me and I am now pretty consistent with it, BUT when I get it right in the GT-R, oh boy! My optimal qualy time in the Nissan would be ranked top 70 in Asia, but my best is currently ranked 200. I feel like I'm about 10 laps of practice away from really nailing it.

More generally, does anyone else find the Group 2 cars to be the most unstable class in the game? I find these (even more than group 1 or SF) are vulnerable to slight taps from other cars and this makes for some of the most frustrating racing because even inadvertent contact causes disproportionate carnage, let alone the malicious barging that is now standard.
 
More generally, does anyone else find the Group 2 cars to be the most unstable class in the game?

They are ridiculously stable when they have downforce.
They’ve got good straight up grip mechanically too bugger is they are stiff sprung, so I’d guess at least 80 to 90 percent of players don’t have em loaded up in any corner below 109 mph
Add to that you got people running tcs off.
Those factors there are what they are.
If you are at slower speeds tcs off car suspension not loaded they are like ice skates.
It’s harder to drive stiffer sprung racecars because the sequence of brake cone off brake turn wheel needs to happen quicker than say an 83 GTI.
Plus downforce cars you need to be going fast or you’re losing downforce. I don’t reccomend race c rofl. Gr2 is an awesome class but needs a different track imo
Saying gr2 is unstable is like saying f1500t is unstable. That car at Brands Hatch is a very stable car, but only if you’ve got the suspension loaded some.
I dunno if that matches real downforce racecars, I’ve never driven one, but it’s how gts is.
You can brake sooooo late, you kinda have to because if you just gently go in there’s no chassis load...
If you’re not following, let the game go to screensaver then watch when it shows racing like in n600 or something. You’ll see the ai showing both mistakes and good driving.
They often show an amateur driver lifting and stabbing brakes trying to keep that nose down.
Imo aero downforce racecars are the same concept but limited travel very stiff suspensions.
There’s an input sequence needed to keep em stuck
I like that about gts it takes into account the weight balance and suspension
That aspect and ADDS that tires have more grip when they are loaded progressively. You end up with technique like @mistahmca to maximize results within this game.
 
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They are ridiculously stable when they have downforce.
They’ve got good straight up grip mechanically too bugger is they are stiff sprung, so I’d guess at least 80 to 90 percent of players don’t have em loaded up in any corner below 109 mph
Add to that you got people running tcs off.
Those factors there are what they are.
If you are at slower speeds tcs off car suspension not loaded they are like ice skates.
It’s harder to drive stiffer sprung racecars because the sequence of brake cone off brake turn wheel needs to happen quicker than say an 83 GTI.
Plus downforce cars you need to be going fast or you’re losing downforce. I don’t reccomend race c rofl. Gr2 is an awesome class but needs a different track imo
Saying gr2 is unstable is like saying f1500t is unstable. That car at Brands Hatch is a very stable car, but only if you’ve got the suspension loaded some.
I dunno if that matches real downforce racecars, I’ve never driven one, but it’s how gts is.
You can brake sooooo late, you kinda have to because if you just gently go in there’s no chassis load...
No doubt they're on rails when the downforce is being utilized. The problem is that's not typically when contact occurs. For me, the perfect example is the final hairpin at LMGP2. That is a very slow corner where the back end can get wiggly, even with TCS on. It's also prime dive territory. a small tap there in Group 2 cars leads to disaster. The Bus Stop and La Source at Spa are the same, mid-Spoon and the hairpin at Suzuka etc.. etc.. I enjoy the challenge of keeping these cars balanced but it all makes for a stressful driving experience.
 
No doubt they're on rails when the downforce is being utilized. The problem is that's not typically when contact occurs. For me, the perfect example is the final hairpin at LMGP2. That is a very slow corner where the back end can get wiggly, even with TCS on. It's also prime dive territory. a small tap there in Group 2 cars leads to disaster. The Bus Stop and La Source at Spa are the same, mid-Spoon and the hairpin at Suzuka etc.. etc.. I enjoy the challenge of keeping these cars balanced but it all makes for a stressful driving experience.

Tcs3. Hairpins in gr2 imo are best done by diving straight towards the tracks inner edge braking dead straight, pivoting tight as possible prioritizing minimum distance over covering a geometric arc trying to carve the whole thing at limit.
Go in deep turn tight exit on power asap.
It discourages dives too there’s never a hint of the door being open.
But yeah I personally wouldn’t dream of racing GP reverse I think it’s not good.
 
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Tcs3. Hairpins in gr2 imo are best done by diving straight towards the tracks inner edge braking dead straight, pivoting tight as possible prioritizing minimum distance over covering a geometric arc trying to carve the whole thing at limit.
Go in deep turn tight exit on power asap.
It discourages dives too there’s never a hint of the door being open.
But yeah I personally wouldn’t dream of racing GP reverse I think it’s not good.

This is funny because I did exactly what you suggest in a race yesterday and got rearended off the track. When I politely asked in post race chat what went wrong I got "you changed lanes under braking and I had nowhere to go". :boggled:

Maybe try and go round the corner like a sane person instead of spearing your car at the outside of the turn? :lol:
 
This is funny because I did exactly what you suggest in a race yesterday and got rearended off the track. When I politely asked in post race chat what went wrong I got "you changed lanes under braking and I had nowhere to go". :boggled:

Maybe try and go round the corner like a sane person instead of spearing your car at the outside of the turn? :lol:

If some morons on you’re ass then you brake a bit earlier. Then if they are truly a moron and hit you you’ll still be on track.
For me hairpins mean BE INSIDE
Hairpins are favorites of the punter so if the guy behind on your ass is unknown to you, he’s going to punt you.
Always assume this and act accordingly.
Sometimes when you’re ahead of the guy behinds driving like an idiot you must brake early. Self preservation.
 
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Looks like someone did a oopsie on the start (the guy who started in second).



Also some dude thinks there's a exploit going on around Goodwood. Don't know if there is but I'll just pretend it's one of those "git gud" type of moments.

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I'm liking Daily Race A so far. Made me learn about the Golf I GTI's capabilities more about one make racing. Had a close race in this one.
 
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Completely agree with the discussion above about the Gr 2 race. It's a sketchy track to race these high downforce cars on. Decent for hotlapping and I thought I was running an OK qualy time. But 2 races last night were poor as my race craft and ability to handle these cars on cold tyres and when they get loose in dirty air is basically non-existent.

First race Q11, ran wide on cold tyres immediately, spun and ran quietly in p16 for the rest of the race.
Second go was a bit better, q12 and finished p12 but had to apologise to a German lad who I ran wide because I didn't properly adjust for running in his dirty air.

Quite enjoyed my first race A of the week, saw @GOTMAXPOWER up the front, which was a sign that it was a mixed ability grid:lol:
I started last and finished second last but kind of kept up with the midfield and it didn't seem too dirty. Not sure if it was clean up front.

Loads of DR lost last night but a fair reflection of my abilities in these races. Didn't get a chance to run race B which might actually be my best bet this week.
 
Looks like someone did a oopsie on the start (the guy who started in second).



Also some dude thinks there's a exploit going on around Goodwood. Don't know if there is but I'll just pretend it's one of those "git gud" type of moments.

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I'm liking Daily Race A so far. Made me learn about the Golf I GTI's capabilities more about one make racing. Had a close race in this one.

Ignore that guy talking about cheats. He spent the week of the 86 race at Suzuka short punting everyone and spouting garbage like that the whole time. He called me a cheat for not turning in when he tried a dive on me and so he missed and ran off track.

He just thinks anyone he can't punt or beat is cheating.

@D_Dragline saw you playing with Leon the other night. Not again, surely? I am really struggling with that race. Might see you out there more as I warm to it. But enjoying (mostly) the golf carnage for tonight.
 
Don't know what changed but yesterday I felt so dialled with race C track / car combo but today it feels like I have never raced here at all. This morning has been a disaster, making so many mistakes and my lap times are nowhere. Really glad I am still on the alt account and didn't switch over to the main as I planned.

Maybe I am pushing too much or stressing lap times too much. This evening's session I should just concentrate on the basics, break points, apex and good corner exit. Eliminate the mistakes, be consistent and lap times will be a natural step forward, I hope.
 
One thing I've figured out is that lap guides are fine and dandy but after I've done several (many) laps doing what the guides tell me to, I purposely zone out and unlearn everything so I can drive my way. Getting the perfect slip angle on curves is very satisfying and I think a lot of it is driving by "feel".

I agree, it is important to figure out how the car works best for you. Though I do it the other way round. If I have time, I'll run some hot laps, working on my own break markers and turn in points.
After I'm settled with that, I watch replays of the top times in the region and track guides, usually @Tidgney videos come out on a Monday evening.

May not have the chance to race this week. But I do enjoy the Gr. 2 cars (car, since I'm usually in the GT-R).
If only I could hit close to my optimal time, about .5 off it. Currently sitting at 43.07. But I'm sure I can get in to the 42's with lots of practice.
 
Ignore that guy talking about cheats. He spent the week of the 86 race at Suzuka short punting everyone and spouting garbage like that the whole time. He called me a cheat for not turning in when he tried a dive on me and so he missed and ran off track.

He just thinks anyone he can't punt or beat is cheating.

@D_Dragline saw you playing with Leon the other night. Not again, surely? I am really struggling with that race. Might see you out there more as I warm to it. But enjoying (mostly) the golf carnage for tonight.
Oh my.

I'm glad someone even know what's up with Leon because that dude I don't know what's up with him and rolling starts.

As for the dude who claims about cheating, thanks for the heads up. Seems I may be safe for the time being as I'm able to qualify within the top five while he's on the bottom grid. I'll just indeed go through with the "git gud" thing for that dude.
 
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