"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Groundfish]

Larini ok turn five.
That one depends on whoever’s in front of you.
That move IS possible, IF your opponent overslows there or if, as can be typical, in front of you people are being idiots, but then generally you pass exiting up the hill.
In high rooms guys will dive if you are too slow due to traffic, so sometimes it’s best to defend, BUT, the move can be done if you know your opponent is braking too soon.
In general play people are idiotic in the turn 3-4-5 sequence below mid high A-even then they still behave like idiots pretty often.
Larini is probably the turn I see the most cars go off on the whole circuit.
Guys go wide turn 4 slip on outside curbing then shoot across, don’t brake early enough, punt, go for I’ll advised moves...
In gr4 I was taking guys in Astons with regularity in the Rarri though, contact free, just gotta have the timing right.
Of course that was a week where I probably ran fifty races there also...
In general the safest bet in traffic is stay in line, or even defend entry if you are ahead of drivers of questionable skill.

-my take on Larini

In general at Seaside there’s tons of overtakes but also you gotta know when to stay in line. Battling loses MASSIVE time.
It’s always prudent at Seaside to hit brake points.
@NevilleNobody knows how to race it.
I saw him holding off half of South America the other day just by being smart.
Hilarious to watch them try and fail repeatedly to overtake because of not prioritizing exit speed

 

[OJBrit]

I think people refer to them both as Larini. So Larini 1 and 2.

 

[Groundfish]

I mean the great thing about Seaside is overtaking oppurtunities, BUT if you don’t complete the move or start to try but don’t quite have it you gotta back out.
You can overtake on any corner there under the right conditions.
On NA below level A if you choose a power car, and prioritize exit speed, NEVER NEVER NEVER missing braking NEVER!
Always brake early enough to get exit then you’ll be A soon.
Even turn 1-brake too late to get tight around it and you can’t open up turn two for full throttle.

B players on NA are HORRIBLE at racing Seaside, they always miss brake points and compromise exit speed.

On those turns you MUST slow enough to hit apex perfectly then go full throttle at apex.
That’s where you get better times, trying to achieve maximum speed on the straights by getting those exits.
You only need worry about entry in Q if you want to get say within 2-2.5 of the best possible time.

In race it’s about staying in control staying calm never messing up exits.
Look above at me on video frustrated and battling.
Nev passed 4 cars just by not compromising exit COD and not battling.

I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo

 

[barak181]

B players on NA are HORRIBLE at racing Seaside, they always miss brake points and compromise exit speed.

On those turns you MUST slow enough to hit apex perfectly then go full throttle at apex.
That’s where you get better times, trying to achieve maximum speed on the straights by getting those exits.

Yes, yes and yes. I briefly gave thought to making a cut-up from this past week's alt get rammed, spun, t-boned and pit-maneuvered by B level racers not understanding that concept.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Some good racing here, thought i hung in there well given I simply was not fast enough to beat these guys. Groundfish is right, the last 2 laps Vs the GTR, that guy is plenty fast but he never lined me up properly and kept getting sucked into a half move, either commit or focus on exit so you can commit at the next big stop. You can see my defense tactics, they work for the most part but you gotta trust the beetle brakes vs the bigger cars.

On the Larini right, yeah a lot of folks bomb in through there so it's a guessing game, do i stay wide or defend? If i defend do i get punted? Likely. Cross fingers and hope.

I have huge issues scrubbing speed through the esses, beetle is slow anyways but i scrub way too much, costs me 3 to 5 tenths lap.

 

[NAXEHT]

Is “random” supposed to work as some form of insult in the vein of “you’re a noname noob”? That’s where my deciphering attempts lead me. Had a Portuguese dude say that after he was unhappy with getting raced the way he was racing.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo

The last corner is pure genius and T2/3 plays into this. You can attack or defend into the last turn, you can take a narrow or wider line and exit is VITAL so it opens opportunities up into T2/3 which is not too fast or to slow for racing.

There was a guy last night, faster than be a margin, took REALLY high and late line through the last corner. I can understand that for passing into T1/2 but he did it every lap. Stop watch says he may be right.

 

[Groundfish]

Is “random” supposed to work as some form of insult in the vein of “you’re a noname noob”? That’s where my deciphering attempts lead me. Had a Portuguese dude say that after he was unhappy with getting raced the way he was racing.

Hehe tbh certain guys, if they start getting mad-it means you’re doing right.
Tbh there’s problem players that don’t mess with me anymore just as I don’t mess with them anymore because we know we will take each other out.

There was a guy last night, faster than be a margin, took REALLY high and late line through the last corner. I can understand that for passing into T1/2 but he did it every lap. Stop watch says he may be right.

On q final turn first lap I brake straight way down the left side to the end of the last curb then floor it.
On the last turn of a good q lap going for time just to the line I take it more like in race, much tighter.
I tend to get better times to the line taking the short route, but starting a lap I always go super deep then turn and floor it...
It’s a close call to the start finish, but faster overall to go super deep late apex maximum early throttle.
Really if you get the line right you can straight punch it AT apex at Seaside on many turns...
But, genius design, it’s SO hard to hit the lines perfectly

Edit to clarify the gibberish above on final turn of a lap I want best time on I take the final turn tightly.
Starting a q lap is opposite. Very deep maximum run over greater distance
Typically in gr3 and up I go for less distance covered-get rotation done and full throttle as early as possible versus
Maximum arc plus maximum speed carry. Imo that works best on touring cars that don’t accelerate fast, in racecars I’d rather practice tight inside then getting to guns (full throttle). Early.
Really my main focus is getting to full throttle on exit as soon as possible without running wide and having to lift...
This is why tcs is important, going a nanosecond early isn’t going to slide me or spin the tires only slow me.
Working with the tcs is how I find my own limit on maximum earliest full throttle, also the fastest rate at which to squeeze the pedal down.
Practicing tight lines and rotation serves well in race. In q maybe not but in race if you practice it
it pays big dividends in racecars.
Out in out in a huge arc applies less the more acceleration the car has imo

 

[RX8 Racer]

Gr.1 at Autopolis next week? This should be fun.

If pit strategy is involved, hopefully people will actually brake for pit entry and not punt the guy ahead into the pit wall.

 

[OJBrit]

Gr.1 at Autopolis next week? This should be fun.

If pit strategy is involved, hopefully people will actually brake for pit entry and not punt the guy ahead into the pit wall.

That'll never happen.

After going through cleanly the last few times I've been to Seaside I've finally been claimed by the COD again. Finished 14th instead of maybe 8th. Sorta cancelled out my 13th to 5th at the Ring.
The Atenza is a very good choice. Started on FM2 until the Nord. Then to FM3 until Bergwerk. Back to FM2 until Stielstrekken. Back to 3 until just before the Dottinger. Could keep it on 2 until the Dottinger again where you could go 1. Crossed the line with 0.1 laps to spare. If you're behind someone on lap 2 you could go 3 for a bit to save a little more. All with short shifting of course.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to a player no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

 

[sturk0167]

Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to a player no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

I had some problems with that dude about a month ago. I'd still be happy to hit him when I see him. 👍

 

[sturk0167]

Obviously, PD still has some work to do.
This was my first penalty of the week.
The white car caused a wreck, then moved into my path, in a 4 wheel skid.
At least one of two things should happen in that circumstance. Either his car should be ghosted, or he should get the penalty for the collision.

 

[Mc_Yavel]

Here's some help for race A (strategy guide).
I'm gonna show you a clip, then give some insight. You'll see me entering the final turn in last place, which was on purpose.


As you can see, I was not only last, but a good 20-30 meters behind the next car. If you are right on someone's back bumper, and pull out to pass them, it's not gonna work, unless the move positions you behind another car that's further ahead. You need more space to create a good enough speed advantage.
Also, don't allow your front bumper to touch any other cars in the last turn. I had a couple of side bumps there, which didn't hurt me.
However, if I had bumped the back of any cars, I would have lost enough speed that there would have been no chance for me.

I've done the race six times now, and only seen 1 or 2 other people who understood the strategy. Everybody else just mixes it up and battles for position the whole time.

Now watch GOTMAXPOWER replay and see the difference. One is a demolition derby at 245 mph and the other one is a parking lot moving at 245mph!
Well done

 

[ii_Biggles_ii]

Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to Loopin Jupiter no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

They just keep pulling out of the line thinking they will pull away when it a ticket to the back once you don't have a slipstream. Last corner is crazy and I have bump-drafted 2 guys to the win as I just couldn't move out as there was no room. Managed to get my win and 5 more pole starts so my time must be better than I thought.

Why can't people just drive fricking straight on SSRX.... had my race ruined two times in a row now, thanks in part to Loopin Jupiter no-showing on the grid and causing a problem in the first 100 meters and then people swerving and bump drafting off angles in turn one. WTH?!? It's not hard, people!

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

I'm guessing a lot of them don't race as much as we do and don't understand how bump-drafting works, you leave the line only one way your going. I helped 2 guys to wins when I had nowhere in the run to the line and got a 3rd & 4th. Some crazy driving and they just can't start a second line but rather try barge back into the line.

I think I'm up 8 pole positions for the week so my time must be OK and I did get my win last race this evening and got my a.t-acc upto Dr-B as I was doing the daily mileage to see what car I would get. Need to get main acc up now.

 

[praiano63]

Back to A+ finally. Thanks nurburgring , thanks porsche.

 

[Groundfish]

Obviously, PD still has some work to do.
This was my first penalty of the week.
The white car caused a wreck, then moved into my path, in a 4 wheel skid.
At least one of two things should happen in that circumstance. Either his car should be ghosted, or he should get the penalty for the collision.

Pshaw.
You shoulda seen it comin, man. Plenty of time to back out of that.
I know it can be hard to hear coming from me, but I have to tell you the truth here.
That was a dirty move you pulled. Deserved a black flag.

 

[sturk0167]

Pshaw.
You shoulda seen it comin, man. Plenty of time to back out of that.
I know it can be hard to hear coming from me, but I have to tell you the truth here.
That was a dirty move you pulled. Deserved a black flag.

 

[sturk0167]

Now watch GOTMAXPOWER replay and see the difference. One is a demolition derby at 245 mph and the other one is a parking lot moving at 245mph!
Well done

Europeans aren't very good at racing.

 

[Groundfish]

The penalty system shoulda been called Venkman. With more interactive feedback, to catch and punish those who drive like you did in that video


Not being able to use telepathy and see the future is a serious flaw and deserves penalties, definitely.

 

[Mc_Yavel]

Spent my time on Race C this week. First race I obviously pitted since there is not enough fuel for one lap! It really came to my surprise that people race without stopping. Now how to make the no-stop work, I went with the WRX my go to gr4, perfectly suited for the ring and had the chance to follow a A+ driver starting from the back for 2 race in a row. On the thrid, he wasn't there and I was on my own.

The "race" teaches a lot about the flow, go off throttle sooner and try to minimize your braking zone, keep a higher gear in turn, short shift A LOT and keeping a car in front of you.

Also tried the Scirroco which is way faster than the WRX, drop my QT by a good margin with it. Now at 8.44.8 Also pretty good in race. Seems to be one of the best car.
Seen a couple of Ferrari finishing well, it is the next car on my list. With its seven gear, I guess it will help on managing fuel.

 

[sturk0167]

The penalty system shoulda been called Venkman. With more interactive feedback, to catch and punish those who drive like you did in that video


Not being able to use telepathy and see the future is a serious flaw and deserves penalties, definitely.

This guy knows what's up.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

A friend and I decided to meme around in a fuel race with the cars that are the worst on fuel. Highly don't suggest doing it.

 

[Def-Infinity]

Well, Race A is not a replacement for a proper oval...

BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile are good alternatives.

 

[Barra333]

A friend and I decided to meme around in a fuel race with the cars that are the worst on fuel. Highly don't suggest doing it.

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Were you able to get two laps in?

 

[Little_Guppy]

Spent my time on Race C this week. First race I obviously pitted since there is not enough fuel for one lap! It really came to my surprise that people race without stopping. Now how to make the no-stop work, I went with the WRX my go to gr4, perfectly suited for the ring and had the chance to follow a A+ driver starting from the back for 2 race in a row. On the thrid, he wasn't there and I was on my own.

The "race" teaches a lot about the flow, go off throttle sooner and try to minimize your braking zone, keep a higher gear in turn, short shift A LOT and keeping a car in front of you.

Also tried the Scirroco which is way faster than the WRX, drop my QT by a good margin with it. Now at 8.44.8 Also pretty good in race. Seems to be one of the best car.
Seen a couple of Ferrari finishing well, it is the next car on my list. With its seven gear, I guess it will help on managing fuel.

Nice and good advice.

I have not figured it out. I have been using my alt and trying some practice runs.

This is a very well written article.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ings-and-other-fuel-saving-techniques.369387/

It gives some good insights along with the hard data, such as, "lifting for 3 seconds provides the same value as going from F1->FM3".

I think I have been shortshifting too much and not doing enough lift&coast.

 

[NAXEHT]

Even if I’m not religious I almost pray that no Spanish turn up in a daily when I race. Video upcoming soon. Got gang raped. Done with this ****.

Edit: TERRIBLE RACE.

 

[NoStopN]

We really need a thread with the PD tracks with corner names on them, like normal circuit maps... 💡

We did that months ago.

I really really love racing Seaside it’s one of if not THE most fun in this game imo

If we're going on a straight win count, Seaside is only my 2nd best track. But when you get it right, oh man, is it a fun ride.

@BenRod if you have the replay from 3:20 EDT race, I forgot to save. I got about 100 ft of vertical air when I was knocked off the track, and I'd love to meme it if I had the replay.

PLEASE have saved that replay. I get the feeling that a donkey laugh will be had when we see the air you caught.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Were you able to get two laps in?

Surprisingly, yes.

@NoStopN I thought the third one was called Essar Down?

 

[KosmoKazi]

We did that months ago.


PLEASE have saved that replay. I get the feeling that a donkey laugh will be had when we see the air you caught.

I'm afraid it's lost and thus far my biggest regret in playing the game. I was WAY up there... unfortunately I was so PO'd after the race that I forgot to save it... I wish it wasn't so.