"Daily" Race Discussion

[MidnightRun85]

I am in the same boat, not even qualifying for daily a and b. Daily a the cars should have been at least n200-300 to make it interesting. Daily b just another boring 4wd only race. Daily C I will do a few times.

Focusing on completing offline and doing other car games this week. Still 11 more endurance races to get gold trophy in gts (missions and track exp done). And like just under 600K more to get the drifting trophy for 1 mil. LaFerrari a maxed one on tarmac, gr b on offroad, for the drifting 😎

Top tip on the drifting trophy: grind the Suzuka short circuit - you can do a full lap and I was averaging around 25-30k each session. Didn't take too long to get the trophy for that.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I'll never understand taking a perfectly good race track and deciding to run it in reverse.

 

[samppa_944]

Top tip on the drifting trophy: grind the Suzuka short circuit - you can do a full lap and I was averaging around 25-30k each session. Didn't take too long to get the trophy for that.

Thanks for the tip. Well I have plenty of time and even a day off on Friday this week and no outdoors sports to do (only rain forecasted that day). So I guess I just try different drift zones for the sake of variety. Comfort tires seem to be the way to go, depending on track I will run mostly comfort softs, but where I struggle to get enough angle, I run the comfort mediums or even comfort hard tires (like I had to do at Saint Croix S to score over 10K).

 

[Sven Jurgens]

It's here in the yellow for me giving me the biggest headache

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It's relatively strraight forward looking at it there but there's much going on visually on entry I've really struggled to find the right braking point and gone careening off into the far side fence too many times.

I can't get consistent in the left right after the yellow circle. Often I have to lift for the right turn or steer in to much and touch the kerb unsettling the car. It's a tough circuit to make passes in GR.2. High speed corners that only have one line, while all the slow speed corners have a dive line and a fast out line intersecting. Lot of contact in these races and a lot of pinball in lap 1.

The draft also seems very powerful this race which often leads to getting side by side for the high speed left at the start with that nasty little wall sticking out on the outside. Evil.

 

[AlexWilmot]

It's here in the yellow for me giving me the biggest headache

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It's relatively strraight forward looking at it there but there's much going on visually on entry I've really struggled to find the right braking point and gone careening off into the far side fence too many times.

For the yellow you can use the marshalls on the left hand side for the braking reference, then a white sign should pop out in front of you on the outside of the track when you are near the apex to start accelerating or go full gas!

 

[FA_Hayes]

It's here in the yellow for me giving me the biggest headache

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It's relatively strraight forward looking at it there but there's much going on visually on entry I've really struggled to find the right braking point and gone careening off into the far side fence too many times.

Me too. It enters like a bend so I always go deep. Try to nail it and I'm still slow. That corner and the last corner are worth more than a second and it's quite frustrating. Lol

 

[MIE1992]

I was thinking that for Race A, I should set the BB towards the front since the S660 is an MR car; I was thinking at least -2, maybe -3. My best time so far was 1:58.115 - within the top 700 for my region at this point - and that's with BB set to 0. My main concern right now is beating my KudosPrime recommended time, which is 1:56.364. (I find trying to beat my KudosPrime time at least fun enough insofar that I might just spend my week tackling that instead of actually racing, haha!)

EDIT: Now my best time is 1:56.246, using a BB of -3. As of this edit, I am now in the top 200 for my region!!

 

[OJBrit]

For the yellow you can use the marshalls on the left hand side for the braking reference, then a white sign should pop out in front of you on the outside of the track when you are near the apex to start accelerating or go full gas!

I never knew about the marshalls until Tidgney's video yesterday. Personally I would still miss them. I'm braking roughly halfway between 100 and 50. If anyone is having issues start at 100 and slowly work your way towards 50 until you are always going too deep. Gr2 cars stop well so you can push the zones a little. Same for the following left.

 

[Mercia]

For the yellow you can use the marshalls on the left hand side for the braking reference, then a white sign should pop out in front of you on the outside of the track when you are near the apex to start accelerating or go full gas!

Good shouts mate, thank you! Little tricky from cockpit view at first but a few laps practice it's habit. Down to a 1:33.178 which for me I'm very happy with, reckons optimal time is 1:32.900 so more to get as well.

 

[Mercia]

Good shouts mate, thank you! Little tricky from cockpit view at first but a few laps practice it's habit. Down to a 1:33.178 which for me I'm very happy with, reckons optimal time is 1:32.900 so more to get as well.

and.. of course the leaders are now in 1:31's, sigh! I do love how the qualy's get faster over the week but it does feel like dogs chasing the mechanical hare sometimes.

 

[Stilva]

You can enter in fourth. Just before the curb ends on the left start your tun in and lift off the throttle to get rid of the understeer.

Personally I shift into fifth just before I turn. It requires less lift and feels smoother to me. I've seen people do it both ways.

If you have a mic we can talk about this stuff on track. I did it last night with another guy. I can also sit and spectate your laps and talk too.

I just need to get my entry angle/speed dialed in then I can play with the shifting to get a good line. I'm usually too shallow when I enter and I just graze the guardrail. So I lift to avoid that and that kills my momentum.

I have a mic somewhere and need to dig it out and set up. Haven't used it for a long time.

 

[NekoPufferPPP]

At long last!

 

[jrbabbitt]

It's not about finishing second because your door number is 2, but finishing second means you lose DR to one driver and take it off 14 drivers. Finishing in 16th means you lose DR to 15 drivers.

So, race / door number has nothing to do with DR?

 

[Famine]

So, race / door number has nothing to do with DR?

It's a visual representation of your DR rank, but reverse-alphabetically sorted. It has no impact on how much DR you gain or lose.

 

[jrbabbitt]

It's a visual representation of your DR rank, but reverse-alphabetically sorted. It has no impact on how much DR you gain or lose.

Reverse alphabetically?? Total confused there, no need to explain, I'll just continue on racing and let the DR trolls figure it out for me.

Dumb question time:
What does the flashing of headlights mean during a race?

 

[Mercia]

Dumb question time:
What does the flashing of headlights mean during a race?

It means please stop being so fast so I may ram you off the road

 

[Famine]

Reverse alphabetically??

It's how the numbers would be listed if they were in a dictionary, only backwards.

Numerical sorting is easy - bigger numbers come after smaller ones:
1, 15, 37, 852, 12809, 47526.

Reverse numerical sorting is the same thing, but backwards:
47526, 12809, 852, 37, 15, 1

Alphabetical sorting puts all the numbers starting with 1 first, then 2s, then 3s - like how a dictionary starts with As, then Bs, then Cs:
1, 12809, 15, 37, 47526, 852

Reverse alphabetical sorting is the same thing, but backwards:
852, 47526, 37, 15, 12809, 1

That means that if you have two drivers in the lobby with DR scores of 852 and 12809, the guy with 852 will be #1 and the guy with 12809 will be #2.

What does the flashing of headlights mean during a race?

That entirely depends. A lot of the time it means "this user is driving with the standard DS4 configuration and keeps mashing the stick in while steering". Other times it means "get out of my way" or "**** you".

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Reverse alphabetically?? Total confused there, no need to explain, I'll just continue on racing and let the DR trolls figure it out for me.

Dumb question time:
What does the flashing of headlights mean during a race?

It means they're pressing down on the left stick while steering. You can assign it to a different button, which I still need to do. Maybe after another 1,000 races I'll actually remember to do it before entering the race

Some do it intentionally to throw you off or as some sort of, let me pass or else, warning.

 

[O604]

Dumb question time:
What does the flashing of headlights mean during a race?

Some people have the headlights button close to some other button and occasionally it gets triggered by accident.

Others do it intentionally. I've seen in movies, cases where it's life threatening. Like when a woman is giving birth to a baby or a homie is bleeding out from a gun shot wound and they need to get to a doctor.

Why anyone would enter a race when they are in that much of a hurry is another question.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I wonder what race C would look like with the old penalty system. Sneakily turn it on tomorrow. Penalties everywhere and all to SR.B or lower! What a wreckfest event. There is some decent racing later in the race, not last race though. I'm going to try one more time before dinner, lowering expectations even further. I lost count how many times I got rammed and punted last race. And just one red rating in the room. It's pinball hour.

 

[jrbabbitt]

It means they're pressing down on the left stick while steering

Funny, I use the DS4 and I don't flash and that is my button for this, I use it as a "sorry I didn't see you" after an incident
I asked this question to find out if I was doing right...

 

[BigSarj]

I recently used the flashing headlights as an apology. Gave the spot back, flashed, and he flashed his hazards as an acknowledgement. But most times, I think it's someone mashing the analog sticks.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Funny, I use the DS4 and I don't flash and that is my button for this, I use it as a "sorry I didn't see you" after an incident
I asked this question to find out if I was doing right...

Turning the blinkers (hazard lights) on for a couple seconds is more the accepted "I'm sorry" signal. Flashing headlights is more considered to be an "Eff you" signal.

I'm glad I did another race, much better (only got punted to the moon once). I finished 2nd with fastest lap, good time for a break.

 

[Stilva]

Some practice has gotten my qualifying time down to 01:31.6XX. Which according to GTBlade has me faster than 89.4% (as of this post) of other B rated drivers which seems really odd. I thought I would be in the middle or slightly slower than the rest of my fellow B Ranks. Must not be a popular race this week, or no one has qualified yet. I'll take it either way. Let's hope I avoid the chaos of others in actual races.

 

[KosmoKazi]

As is my usual preference, the few dailies I’ve run this week so far have been Race A in the ****box underpowered cars that I thrive in.

put in a top 100 QT so chanced another run, knowing I’d get slotted in the top one with a few got shoes to race against.

Got a good run off the line to pull even with P1 (hold it at 4500 rpm and then let go of the brake, slam the throttle the rest of the way open, and I’m pulling ahead of everyone at the start in these races so far this week), P1 is a good guy named Masoneer, who I race against often. He’s fast. dogged him for all of the first lap, benefiting from a tidy line and the slipstream, while we pulled away from the rest of the field.

then on lap two, the guy proceeds to simply walk away from me… putting in a 1:54-dead without a draft, even a smidge better than his already-fast QT. I was powerless.

sometimes you just gotta tip your hat to the other guys and gals out there. Impressive.

Race A is A fun race IMO. I like how Pd are mixing it up a bit at the moment.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Hate to say it but everyone is right about race c, so many clueless drivers. Even the slow guys are witless, meandering on the apex, like buddy, your qualy time was 8 seconds off pole, you need to be aware of your surroundings. Big issue is braking, guys are not allowing for the tow and I was run off the road in alln3 races ibid at one of the first 3 corners.

Bedlam.

My pace seems ok, got my qualy down to a 31.7 but optimal a 31.2, just not tying thr sectors together. Turn 3 is COD like im its make or break nature. Fun track, I always do well at any sardegna variant but damn the driving standards need penalties.

 

[Tandem21]

How are you guys getting qualy in C down to the low 30s? I've watched the replays so I get the lines to take but I've so far yet to crack 1:35. Dunno where I'm losing the 2-3s or so to get to the 1:32-33s.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I'll try and help.

Flat through t1

T2 Brake at 125m, keep your mid corner speed up and on the gas asap

T3 is awkward, nearly flat but lift a SMIDGE

Next but is tricky, I prefer to brake a touch early into the uphill left hander, lift for a mili second then brake again to keep the car plastered, on the gas early early early.

Flat through downhill left

Dive hard in the right hander, trail brake, get on gas later than you think you can

Now the fiddly bit, left then right etc, key is getting on gas early through right hander, sacrifice speed through the left hander to achieve this.

Final sequence I treat like that brutal uphill braking I mentioned above. I tap the brake, swing left, brake hard but early and focus very very hard on carrying as much mid corner speed as possible but clipping the apex and getting on the gas before you can even see the kerb on the left.

This is all great advice that should yield a 31 flat. My best id a 31.7 so easier said than done.

 

[Mercia]

I wonder what race C would look like with the old penalty system. Sneakily turn it on tomorrow. Penalties everywhere and all to SR.B or lower! What a wreckfest event. There is some decent racing later in the race, not last race though. I'm going to try one more time before dinner, lowering expectations even further. I lost count how many times I got rammed and punted last race. And just one red rating in the room. It's pinball hour.

Agreed once it opens up there's actually good racing to be had. I managed to skip through the carnage from 7th and got myself into 2nd and ended up running there the rest of the race, very close and chasing down 1st until I made a small mistake and with 3rd nipping at me the whole race it was very tense and enjoyable. It's a good track once you're in the flow, very on the edge the whole time with a great sense of speed in the GR2's.

 

[D_Dragline]

How are you guys getting qualy in C down to the low 30s? I've watched the replays so I get the lines to take but I've so far yet to crack 1:35. Dunno where I'm losing the 2-3s or so to get to the 1:32-33s.

I'll try and help.

Flat through t1

T2 Brake at 125m, keep your mid corner speed up and on the gas asap

T3 is awkward, nearly flat but lift a SMIDGE

Next but is tricky, I prefer to brake a touch early into the uphill left hander, lift for a mili second then brake again to keep the car plastered, on the gas early early early.

Flat through downhill left

Dive hard in the right hander, trail brake, get on gas later than you think you can

Now the fiddly bit, left then right etc, key is getting on gas early through right hander, sacrifice speed through the left hander to achieve this.

Final sequence I treat like that brutal uphill braking I mentioned above. I tap the brake, swing left, brake hard but early and focus very very hard on carrying as much mid corner speed as possible but clipping the apex and getting on the gas before you can even see the kerb on the left.

This is all great advice that should yield a 31 flat. My best id a 31.7 so easier said than done.

I am currently 31.4 with an optimal of 30.8. I agree with Neville’s guide.

For turn 2, use the give way sign as your apex marker. For the second hairpin (after the esses) you want to get left as you brake so you can get on the throttle as early as possible. Use the power pole as an apex marker.

The right hander after the downhill back straight, brake at the marshalls on the left, enter in 3rd and change down to 2nd to rotate the car. Full throttle once you’re pointing at the first white sign on the outside.

For the last section, I am full throttle from the middle of the chicane until the final turn. I lift as I take the last left and brake at the bottom of the small dip before the last turn.

In general in group 2 cars, you want to spend as little time on the brakes as possible. Trust the downforce. You also want to down shift as quickly as you can into the hairpins. It helps reduce the braking distance dramatically.