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Is that enough for top split in America?!
Over 35K DR is usually enough to get in the top split rooms in America, there aren't that many A+ drivers racing here. Lap times at the front are 2:44 sometimes 2:43.

During the day the top split is a mix of one or two A+, half a dozen A and the rest B drivers. During prime time you generally have half a dozen A+, the rest A. Americas is also split over 6 time zones, so prime time lasts a lot longer with a much wider lower peak.
 
Over 35K DR is usually enough to get in the top split rooms in America, there aren't that many A+ drivers racing here. Lap times at the front are 2:44 sometimes 2:43.

During the day the top split is a mix of one or two A+, half a dozen A and the rest B drivers. During prime time you generally have half a dozen A+, the rest A. Americas is also split over 6 time zones, so prime time lasts a lot longer with a much wider lower peak.
Even at my level I'm seeing A+, A, B, C, and D in the same room at Spa.
 
Whatever next week's Gr.X car is should have similar pace to Gr.3 as Gr.3 with these settings would be a 19:45-19:50 total race time. The 20 million cars (except the 250 GTO obviously) should be around that area. Ford vs Ferrari would be cool but from memory they aren't balanced and I really don't think PD would BoP them for one daily race. I also doubt that they'd make people pay 20 million to enter a daily :lol:

We'll see I guess, it could even be the X2014 Junior :lol:
 
Sadly the honeymoon period is over in the top split rooms, dirty passes all the way. Last race I got pushed over the kerb in S3 and dive bombed in S2 twice. 3 different drivers. Next to a lot of pushing and not leaving room. The race before I already pushed off in T1, car had no reason too, plenty room on the other side.

Try one more time, then maybe reset to D/E and start from there again to find some clean races.

A week is too long for these races. Too much time for people to find the dirty moves that work.
New driver here, what is the easiest way to reset you D/R ?
 
New driver here, what is the easiest way to reset you D/R ?
The second easiest (non ahole way) is to drive back and forth out of the way.

Drive the wrong way until the DQ time is under 15 seconds, turn around, drive the same distance the other way and repeat. That triggers a (now invisible) SR Down every time you do that. Quitting the race before the end costs another 5 SR.

It's a bit of work as you need to do that for 2 short races or one C race to go all the way down. Hitting the pit wall can also still reduce SR. I race into the pit exit, wrong way in, when the field comes around, so my car ping pongs in the pit out of the way until everyone has passed again.

Actually the easiest way is to make a new account.
 
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Still trying to get enough credits to buy the car for next week on the alt account. Except, of course, I don't know which car that is yet or how much it will cost. I'm aiming for at least 450K before Monday
It will likely require a 1,000,000 car.

If you get in a financial bind, go to Campaign->GT League->Professional League->Premium Sports Lounge->Blue Moon Bay.
You can use any sports car. Up to N1000 is allowed, but if you use lower ranked cars, you get a bonus.
It's pretty easy to win the race with the Ferrari F40.
Lower the power until it's in the N400 category. Do whatever you want with the weight. There's no tire wear, so equip the Racing Super Soft tires. Lower ride height to the minimum. Set you transmission top speed to 180.

The race payout is 100,000. If you win it with an N400 car, you get 130% car handicap bonus. Now you're at 230,000.
If you don't hit any walls, you'll get an additional 50% clean race bonus (be careful around the A.I. cars). Total payout would be 345,000.
And the race should only take about 12 minutes. :)

*Some folks do it with the N300 XBow, but that car sucks. It goes sideways whenever you lift off the throttle.
 
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Whatever next week's Gr.X car is should have similar pace to Gr.3 as Gr.3 with these settings would be a 19:45-19:50 total race time. The 20 million cars (except the 250 GTO obviously) should be around that area. Ford vs Ferrari would be cool but from memory they aren't balanced and I really don't think PD would BoP them for one daily race. I also doubt that they'd make people pay 20 million to enter a daily :lol:

We'll see I guess, it could even be the X2014 Junior :lol:
If it's going to be the same.speed.as Gr 3 I would really love for it to be the RS01 gr X.
That car is sublime.
 
Saw @Mc_Yavel in there a few times, gentleman that he is. Gave me a shove (totally accidental) at Les Fagnes but let me finish my impression of Bambi on ice for half a lap before getting back down to business.
Bambi on ice, that's the perfect picture!
Yeah, most of the time, if I hit someone during a fight I will wait for them, even more if it's someone I know.

Since I don't have many races left before sunday, I set a QT to try my best for podium, win is totally out of reach.
QT of 2.46.5 got me starting close to front on morning room. Which got me two podium.

People are suprisingly well behave, couple of desperate divebomb occurs but many drivers are patient, cautious and leave room for the other car and you end up with two cars wide action for 1-2 turns.

The only stupid move was a guy finishing is 1.5 sec penality and jump right in front of me on Les Combes straight. Needless to say, I send him off to Narnya. :confused:

Next week Race C looks good. Three week in a row, let's go PD!

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I'm glad I didn't reset my DR, this morning was much better behaved than yesterday morning. Nothing really dirty spotted, just a clumsy mistake here and there. Which still cost me 15 sec when a car behind me braked a bit late and didn't avoid me.

The worst I did to myself:

Why doesn't the reset work anymore :banghead: Nearly 20 seconds lost on that split second late brake. Better to err on the side of too soon, might costs a few tenths, instead of actual 10s. Got excited by the car in front wobbling a bit opening the door, then flew right through it lol.

After getting the kinks out I had three great races in a row
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And managed to dip under the 2:47 again (just once though)

A victory would be nice, but still need to be 17 sec faster. Top split room is rather weak atm, but there's always a fast A+ drive doing pole to flag victories. He's been at it since I started today.

Time for a break, it's getting easier but still very taxing. Not a race for a full day marathon!
 
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Over 35K DR is usually enough to get in the top split rooms in America, there aren't that many A+ drivers racing here. Lap times at the front are 2:44 sometimes 2:43.

During the day the top split is a mix of one or two A+, half a dozen A and the rest B drivers. During prime time you generally have half a dozen A+, the rest A. Americas is also split over 6 time zones, so prime time lasts a lot longer with a much wider lower peak.
Smells funny in here...
 
Smells funny in here...
I'm aware the Europe server hosts Africa and the Middle East as well. However percentage wise, Europe dominates. Unlike the Americas where South America and North America are more of an even split, nvm USA being split in 4(+) time zones itself.

This is quite and old breakdown (thanks @jasguer) but I doubt the percentages have shifted all that much since
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UEA was at 0.52%, less than Norway for example.

Add it all up by timezone and CET will no doubt tower over the rest.


If GT Sport was more popular in China, that would definitely be the dominant timezone
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How does one know if they’re in a top split lobby or not?
In the Americas that's simple. If your SR >= 90 and you see any A+/S in the room, you are in the top split room.
The chance that there are more A+/S (90+) entering a race than available race slots in the Americas is practically zero.

(It can happen that there are no A+/S (90+) racing atm, in the empty hours top split can start as low as B/S or have A+/A or A/B on pole. Generally it's A/S or A+/S though)
 
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I'm getting extremely close to the point where I don't want to do daily races, anymore. I did 1 race, today (just now). I was DR "C". I started 16, finished 12th; and had a clean race. My DR dropped over 2000 points. And that dropped me down to the level below.

WTF?!

The whole finishing ahead of drivers who have a higher DR rating than you, the door numbers, all that BS needs to either go away, or they need to ALSO take into account what kind of race you had. No penalties? Your DR goes up a bit. Clean race? Your DR goes up a bit. Make clean passes and finish higher than where you started? Your DR goes up a bit.

Now I'll be in a lobbies full of rammers, punters, and overall idiot drivers.

🤬🤬🤬


ETA: Yep, I think I'm done. Just ran another race. Started 15th, finished 10th; and another clean race. DR dropped another 162 points.
 
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I sound like a broken record saying I hope to race again this week but i keep working on stuff since my first FIA series and not hitting 34's for a Q on Dragon Trail. Between brake pedal, new seating position and working towards consistency I haven't had the focus to race.

Partly due to my damn ocd but I'm making progress and my work is proving fruitful regardless of telling myself I'm crazy.

Managed a few high 34's in training but the biggest change has been going to a fixed back seat. My previous thought was a reclining sparco which was nice but the bolsters interfered with my elbows and being a road car seat really played hell with geometry.

I also felt a fixed back wasn't as comfy on my back and bottom but I was wrong. After adding a bit of foam to the bottom it's actually quite nice and pushing on the load cell is so much better and modulating is way easier.

But. The biggest gain is consistency. No matter how hard I focused I couldn't do this with a soft seat. Not alien fast but the best flowing 9 laps I've ever laid down! Now to keep training and work on racecraft to make the streets flow with the blood of the non believers when GT7 drops. Ha!

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I'm getting extremely close to the point where I don't want to do daily races, anymore. I did 1 race, today (just now). I was DR "C". I started 16, finished 12th; and had a clean race. My DR dropped over 2000 points. And that dropped me down to the level below.

WTF?!

The whole finishing ahead of drivers who have a higher DR rating than you, the door numbers, all that BS needs to either go away, or they need to ALSO take into account what kind of race you had. No penalties? Your DR goes up a bit. Clean race? Your DR goes up a bit. Make clean passes and finish higher than where you started? Your DR goes up a bit.

Now I'll be in a lobbies full of rammers, punters, and overall idiot drivers.

🤬🤬🤬


ETA: Yep, I think I'm done. Just ran another race. Started 15th, finished 10th; and another clean race. DR dropped another 162 points.
I see you’re mostly under 10,000 when checking your statistics on kudosprime just now. Do please take this the right way but honestly you shouldn’t put such energy and thoughts into that whole business at that level. You’re stopping yourself from having fun which is a great shame to see. If caring about DR could be justified I personally think one should be at least A+ (50,000) for that kind of thing. That’s when things get a little bit more serious (but rest assured the difference between 50,000 and 90,000+ is as it sounds, quite a lot).

I would recommend you to just keep racing and racing and eventually your pace will improve. Perhaps give qualifying a little bit more time if you can? Given that you seem to drive cleanly and make up positions during the race.

Driver rating going up for a clean race or going from 20th to 13th doesn’t really make that much sense to be frank, the DR system as it works now is actually a really good one.
 
Me too, small world :)
I'm getting extremely close to the point where I don't want to do daily races, anymore. I did 1 race, today (just now). I was DR "C". I started 16, finished 12th; and had a clean race. My DR dropped over 2000 points. And that dropped me down to the level below.

WTF?!

The whole finishing ahead of drivers who have a higher DR rating than you, the door numbers, all that BS needs to either go away, or they need to ALSO take into account what kind of race you had. No penalties? Your DR goes up a bit. Clean race? Your DR goes up a bit. Make clean passes and finish higher than where you started? Your DR goes up a bit.

Now I'll be in a lobbies full of rammers, punters, and overall idiot drivers.

🤬🤬🤬


ETA: Yep, I think I'm done. Just ran another race. Started 15th, finished 10th; and another clean race. DR dropped another 162 points.
I completely understand this. I had the same problem last week at dragon gardens. My qualy time was about 4 tenths off what I needed for top 6 starts and I was regularly starting between 10 and 14, despite all the ramming and dirty drivers back there I regularly was making up 4 to 6 places and assumed that wouldn’t be hurting my DR. I lost thousands and was pretty gutted. I’ve tried to stop caring about it now and just take the position that GTsport is a two month practice for GT7 as our DR will mean nothing when that comes along by the looks of things.
 
It will likely require a 1,000,000 car.

If you get in a financial bind, go to Campaign->GT League->Professional League->Premium Sports Lounge->Blue Moon Bay.
You can use any sports car. Up to N1000 is allowed, but if you use lower ranked cars, you get a bonus.
It's pretty easy to win the race with the Ferrari F40.
Lower the power until it's in the N400 category. Do whatever you want with the weight. There's no tire wear, so equip the Racing Super Soft tires. Lower ride height to the minimum. Set you transmission top speed to 180.

The race payout is 100,000. If you win it with an N400 car, you get 130% car handicap bonus. Now you're at 230,000.
If you don't hit any walls, you'll get an additional 50% clean race bonus (be careful around the A.I. cars). Total payout would be 345,000.
And the race should only take about 12 minutes. :)

*Some folks do it with the N300 XBow, but that car sucks. It goes sideways whenever you lift off the throttle.
Porsche 911 GT3 RS works well too, as do any of the Gr.3/Gr.B street cars, tuned to N400.
 
I’ve tried to stop caring about it now and just take the position that GTsport is a two month practice for GT7 as our DR will mean nothing when that comes along by the looks of things.
I would think that everything will be different in GT7. Better, or worse? Who knows.
Whatever it is, some will like it, and some won't. Can't please everybody.
I'm actually looking forward to having a bunch of new single player activities to do.
 
Me too, small world :)

I completely understand this. I had the same problem last week at dragon gardens. My qualy time was about 4 tenths off what I needed for top 6 starts and I was regularly starting between 10 and 14, despite all the ramming and dirty drivers back there I regularly was making up 4 to 6 places and assumed that wouldn’t be hurting my DR. I lost thousands and was pretty gutted. I’ve tried to stop caring about it now and just take the position that GTsport is a two month practice for GT7 as our DR will mean nothing when that comes along by the looks of things.
It seems to me that if I finish in the top half of the field, my DR goes up. Bottom half, it goes down, other things being equal. Positions gained are irrelevant. I think someone told me that, or something like that, many posts back, when I asked a similar question.

And anyway, if you lose enough points you get put in rooms where you tend to be more competitive until you gain again. I've said it's both sides of the Peter Principle: first you rise to your level of incompetence, then you sink to your level of competence. Hopefully, both the highs and the lows keep getting higher over time. The point is to have fun in the process!
 
It seems to me that if I finish in the top half of the field, my DR goes up. Bottom half, it goes down, other things being equal. Positions gained are irrelevant. I think someone told me that, or something like that, many posts back, when I asked a similar question.

And anyway, if you lose enough points you get put in rooms where you tend to be more competitive until you gain again. I've said it's both sides of the Peter Principle: first you rise to your level of incompetence, then you sink to your level of competence. Hopefully, both the highs and the lows keep getting higher over time. The point is to have fun in the process!
I get the system and I suppose it makes sense but it just means if you can’t nail a good qualy time that will see you top 8 then may as well not bother if you want to keep your DR up.
 
*Some folks do it with the N300 XBow, but that car sucks. It goes sideways whenever you lift off the throttle.
Massively softer rear tyres than fronts helps with that, but it just needs a gentle tune to be completely rock solid. Unless hit by the AI 911 GT3 RS that likes to hit you.

It saves you enough time and earns enough extra money that six runs in the KTM is better than seven runs in anything else.
 
I get the system and I suppose it makes sense but it just means if you can’t nail a good qualy time that will see you top 8 then may as well not bother if you want to keep your DR up.
I have one account that I use for qualifying and one for non-qual starts. Front of the pack is good, back can be good, middle can be murder. I've done fairly well (for me) at Spa starting at the back, finishing mostly in the upper half. No wins but a couple of P3s. To be fair that was probably more due to those ahead crashing than to my driving. I've mostly been trying to drive without making too many suicidal mistakes (not always successfully).
 
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