- 5,594
- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
"Daily" Race Discussion
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Good to see that's not the case anymore, not really a fan of FF cars...I guess I don't mind there being a go to car for each track, it does force me to drive cars I normally wouldn't, but I do like variety.
Your last line is why I at least want to try - the experience. I just think it would be more fun with a wheel. I do 100% agree I would be more consistent with a wheel. I find myself having to think a lot more about braking points & turn-in when using a controller becasue I'm essentially just playing a video game instead of "driving". I would like to give it a shot, think the G29 is even worth trying? Or just bite the bullet and go with something more high end? I was looking at the CSL Elite, but did not realize it was discontinued (have seen a few used for sale). What would eb the go-to high end budget wheel now that its gone?
- 2,430
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
The CSL elite DD is going to replace it. I would buy that. Probably the last base you’ll ever buy unless you get super hardcore into PC sims. Preferably get a load cell brake if you can afford it. If not, just get whatever brakes the base comes with. Upgrade your pedals as you see fit. Unless you’re on a tight budget, I wouldn’t waste your money on a Logitech. You’ll just want to upgrade later anyways. I’m jealous of the people that get to buy the CSL DD. For me, it’s not worth it. I might as well see if they come out with a CSW DD and a top tier pedal set. I’d rather spend my money on those things.
Thanks for the info. Money doesn't matter, it's more space and wondering if I'll even like it. Would hate to have an expensive setup just sitting around taking up valuable space. Looks like the DD wont be available until at least November, so have plenty of time to think about it. Is there anything out now (other than used) that would be a decent option?
Don't mean to turn this into a wheel thread, back to daily racing...
- 2,430
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Mounting is extremely important. My rig right now is a playseat challenge that the lovely lady bought me for my birthday almost a year ago.. I’ve made some mods, but it still flexes. My next setup is gonna cost some coin. I want to get an 80/20 rig, a DD, and whatever top tier pedal set Fanatec is selling a year from now…whenever GT7 comes out. It’ll be an expensive day, but I’m a buy once, cry once kinda guy
Back to the daily’s. Gonna do a few C’s today, then practice for FIA tomorrow. Hopefully the racing at RBR has cleaned up a tad. Regardless, I have at least a second I need to find in my q time. I’m doing myself zero favors starting at the very back
Back to the daily’s. Gonna do a few C’s today, then practice for FIA tomorrow. Hopefully the racing at RBR has cleaned up a tad. Regardless, I have at least a second I need to find in my q time. I’m doing myself zero favors starting at the very back
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- 3,362
- Canada
Yeah pace in C is red hot, need to be under 1.21 to run with low A drivers.
- 51,320
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
That's true. I may have to revert back to calling it the Trophy. I've been using it lately and it has a good top speed, if stayed in the slipstream. The 4C on the other hand...
jrbabbitt
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- 2,941
- Charleston, SC
- TCR_JimyBee
Well I don't remember where I read it, but it was suggested the the high quals on the A Race were done by wall riding. I'm not believing that because I tried it and no matter how soft you my glide against T1 Wall at BMB you WILL get a penalty of 1 second or more.
That being said I qualified normally and got high enough to get a P4 spot on grid or better then I made the BIG mistake....
I tried to jump ahead on the OUTER edges of that first turn....
Before I got to T2 I found myself back at P13
(Hanging my head in embarrassment)
For the remainder of the race I clawed back to a P6 finish.
Tried another go around and took the inside line on T1 and succeeded in staying close to the front, didn't win this time but not discouraged.
That being said I qualified normally and got high enough to get a P4 spot on grid or better then I made the BIG mistake....
I tried to jump ahead on the OUTER edges of that first turn....
Before I got to T2 I found myself back at P13
(Hanging my head in embarrassment)
For the remainder of the race I clawed back to a P6 finish.
Tried another go around and took the inside line on T1 and succeeded in staying close to the front, didn't win this time but not discouraged.
- 2,430
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Wish I would have known how to load a ghost before today. Loaded up a fast guy, found 1 second in 3 laps. Now in the high 1:20’s. The places these guys find speed…I would never think of in a million years! There’s a low 1:20 in there once I clean up the lap. Like Nevillenobody said, turns 1 and 3 are key. But so hard to hit consistently. I can see why the NSX is the qually car tho. That MR will really help on the exits
- 3,362
- Canada
It's my best track but I ALWAYS feel slow out of turn 3 compared to high B/Low A guys, I just CANNOT rotate and get on the power like my peers. I am fast through turn 4 and T1, that's where i get it back, especially T1.
- 7,109
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
I'm on a controller too, having the accelerator set to R2 really helps for me because you can bring in the power more smoothly out of the hairpins, if it is still too brutal up shifting to just before you go on the power is a bit slower but takes away that initial kick of oversteer (manual gears are quicker once you get the hang of them). Changing the controller sensitivity to +7 makes the car more responsive and quicker at changing direction too.
The track limits are fairly forgiving at Red Bull Ring, you can run wide on the exits as long as your inside wheels stay on any part of the curb (including the yellow sausages) which is worth a few tenths. Aside from that these 2016 Super GT cars have a tonne of downforce, you can drive into the corners a lot harder than you would in a Gr3/4 car without it punishing you. My qualifying time is 1:19.9 but I forgot to save the replay, this is a 1:20.9 on mediums from last time we had this race
- 5
- United States
I dont have a GTR..which is better on tires for race C: new Lexus or new NSX?
- 7,109
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
Lexus, it's actually a really nice car to drive, a little slower than the GT-R but a lot more forgiving. The Honda is mid-engined so loses all stability once the tyres wear.
- 895
- Due West of Europe
I'm on a controller too, having the accelerator set to R2 really helps for me because you can bring in the power more smoothly out of the hairpins, if it is still too brutal up shifting to just before you go on the power is a bit slower but takes away that initial kick of oversteer (manual gears are quicker once you get the hang of them). Changing the controller sensitivity to +7 makes the car more responsive and quicker at changing direction too.
The track limits are fairly forgiving at Red Bull Ring, you can run wide on the exits as long as your inside wheels stay on any part of the curb (including the yellow sausages) which is worth a few tenths. Aside from that these 2016 Super GT cars have a tonne of downforce, you can drive into the corners a lot harder than you would in a Gr3/4 car without it punishing you. My qualifying time is 1:19.9 but I forgot to save the replay, this is a 1:20.9 on mediums from last time we had this race
GT Sport Playlists: Overtaking Compilations / Daily Race Highlights
Thanks for the advice, appreciate it. I have tried to set the accelerator to R2 but I find myself braking out of corners and accelerating into walls 🤦🏼♂️
I shall examine your video closely for any pointers I can use. Thanks for posting it.
The track limits are fairly forgiving at Red Bull Ring, you can run wide on the exits as long as your inside wheels stay on any part of the curb (including the yellow sausages) which is worth a few tenths. Aside from that these 2016 Super GT cars have a tonne of downforce, you can drive into the corners a lot harder than you would in a Gr3/4 car without it punishing you. My qualifying time is 1:19.9 but I forgot to save the replay, this is a 1:20.9 on mediums from last time we had this race
GT Sport Playlists: Overtaking Compilations / Daily Race Highlights
Thanks for the advice, appreciate it. I have tried to set the accelerator to R2 but I find myself braking out of corners and accelerating into walls 🤦🏼♂️
I shall examine your video closely for any pointers I can use. Thanks for posting it.
- 2,035
- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
Sounds like you had a large deadzone set. That is changeable. The only difference between it and my car is the lack of bite in the brake. Of course you don't get feedback as you would steering a car normally, but that cannot be replicated in full by any controller.
- 284
- United States
I've had an epiphany.
I usually do thirty-minute races in ACC against the AI. For a while I had the AI skill level set to 90, but it felt too easy to overtake, and I thought it would be a better challenge to turn it up to 95. That felt like it matched my actual ability, but on circuits/in cars I wasn't as comfortable with, I was constantly pushing too hard to match the pace of the AI. I thought the challenge would make me a better driver, but it didn't feel that way. So the other day I turned it back down to 90. The AI was a lot easier to overtake, but I was driving at a pace that I could easily manage over the course of thirty minutes, and I rarely made mistakes. I might have only slid the rear minimally once or twice throughout the entire race. Even though my pace was faster than the AI, I didn't do anything risky to get an overtake. I was able to stay patient and calm the whole race.
So I jumped into to Daily Race C this morning, and I was instinctively driving the same way I was against the AI in ACC. I wasn't aggressive whatsoever, and it's amazing what difference that made. The first half of the race I was getting lunged left and right through the hairpins, sometimes three or four cars at a time. But I never out-braked myself. I was fully focused on driving at my comfortable pace, rather than overtaking and defending. And all of the drivers who were in such a hurry to dive up the inside on Lap 1 continued making mistakes every lap, getting track limit penalties and losing time due to ridiculously aggressive attacking and defending.
Even when I caught up to someone, I rarely pulled out to make it seem like I would go for a dive, but they would preemptively defend the inside anyway. On a couple occasions going into the hairpins, the car in front would pull all the way over to the inside of the straight to defend from a move I had no intention of making, and one that I hadn't even telegraphed at that. That was very fun, because once I was alongside them on the outside, I would pull over all the way up the inside as well to box them in to the edge of the straight until the last moment.
Driving without aggression feels good.
I usually do thirty-minute races in ACC against the AI. For a while I had the AI skill level set to 90, but it felt too easy to overtake, and I thought it would be a better challenge to turn it up to 95. That felt like it matched my actual ability, but on circuits/in cars I wasn't as comfortable with, I was constantly pushing too hard to match the pace of the AI. I thought the challenge would make me a better driver, but it didn't feel that way. So the other day I turned it back down to 90. The AI was a lot easier to overtake, but I was driving at a pace that I could easily manage over the course of thirty minutes, and I rarely made mistakes. I might have only slid the rear minimally once or twice throughout the entire race. Even though my pace was faster than the AI, I didn't do anything risky to get an overtake. I was able to stay patient and calm the whole race.
So I jumped into to Daily Race C this morning, and I was instinctively driving the same way I was against the AI in ACC. I wasn't aggressive whatsoever, and it's amazing what difference that made. The first half of the race I was getting lunged left and right through the hairpins, sometimes three or four cars at a time. But I never out-braked myself. I was fully focused on driving at my comfortable pace, rather than overtaking and defending. And all of the drivers who were in such a hurry to dive up the inside on Lap 1 continued making mistakes every lap, getting track limit penalties and losing time due to ridiculously aggressive attacking and defending.
Even when I caught up to someone, I rarely pulled out to make it seem like I would go for a dive, but they would preemptively defend the inside anyway. On a couple occasions going into the hairpins, the car in front would pull all the way over to the inside of the straight to defend from a move I had no intention of making, and one that I hadn't even telegraphed at that. That was very fun, because once I was alongside them on the outside, I would pull over all the way up the inside as well to box them in to the edge of the straight until the last moment.
Driving without aggression feels good.
- 1,230
- Michigan
- KosmoKazi
This is a good post. When first made my Alt, it was my child son's PSN... I had the chat services turned off, by default, and I couldn't message anyone in the game. Just that and an absolute commitment to avoiding picking fights that he may get crossed up in if someone was an idiot, it was a weight off to simply race and focus on the outcomes, and not worry about what I couldn't control. There was a lot to learn in that.
- 82
- United States
Race A, Week 28,
Slipstream Boot Camp: Going Camaro.
Slipstream Boot Camp: Going Camaro.
- 587
- Buffalo, NY
- Stilva
3 races tonight, all 3 total disasters.
Race 1 I start P5, then I go off track due to cold medium tires twice in the first lap. Finish P12 in the end.
Race 2, I start P8. I manage to navigate the first few turns, then give an accidental punt to @BigSarj (who was crushing it in the 2 races we ran together) in turn 6 then I run off track and spin, again. Fall all the way back to P18. Climb back up the field to get a P11 finish.
Race 3, a much better start where I start P9. Then everybody starts divebombing everybody else and the elbows are out in full force. I don’t think I was passed legitimately once the entire race. On lap 6 I get frustrated and start fighting with somebody and I spin, and they don’t of course. I don’t reset so I fall to absolute dead last. I almost rage quit, but I can’t let my emotions get the better of me. I make my pit stop (I was using the 6M/8S strategy) after the spin and, again climb my way back through the field. I do manage to get behind the person who spun me earlier on lap 13 and I decide to be petty and do a fantastic divebomb of my own. Good sportsmanship? No. Should I have done it? No. Did it feel good to get some revenge? Yep. I never resort to that so it’s unheard of that I do that intentionally. I finish P11 somehow.
If I can just keep it on the track I can hang with the top of the field, but self-sabotage has killed me tonight. The abysmal other drivers I got stuck with in the back didn't help either. Back to the track tomorrow and hope for the best.
Race 1 I start P5, then I go off track due to cold medium tires twice in the first lap. Finish P12 in the end.
Race 2, I start P8. I manage to navigate the first few turns, then give an accidental punt to @BigSarj (who was crushing it in the 2 races we ran together) in turn 6 then I run off track and spin, again. Fall all the way back to P18. Climb back up the field to get a P11 finish.
Race 3, a much better start where I start P9. Then everybody starts divebombing everybody else and the elbows are out in full force. I don’t think I was passed legitimately once the entire race. On lap 6 I get frustrated and start fighting with somebody and I spin, and they don’t of course. I don’t reset so I fall to absolute dead last. I almost rage quit, but I can’t let my emotions get the better of me. I make my pit stop (I was using the 6M/8S strategy) after the spin and, again climb my way back through the field. I do manage to get behind the person who spun me earlier on lap 13 and I decide to be petty and do a fantastic divebomb of my own. Good sportsmanship? No. Should I have done it? No. Did it feel good to get some revenge? Yep. I never resort to that so it’s unheard of that I do that intentionally. I finish P11 somehow.
If I can just keep it on the track I can hang with the top of the field, but self-sabotage has killed me tonight. The abysmal other drivers I got stuck with in the back didn't help either. Back to the track tomorrow and hope for the best.
- 1,306
- Canada
I had my fair share of run-ins in those races. It wasn't much better in my next race which had me starting more towards the back. I just tried to get in that red bull rhythm and keep my nose clean tonight and it worked.
I saw how you spun out behind me in that one race. I hope I didn't help cause that. I was a bit slow going through those esses but I appreciate you giving the spot back. Good results overall, considering you were essentially racing from the back in both those races.
- 5
- United States
Thanks! Took your suggestion, started 10th, finished 10th with a clean race. Very comfy to drive, definitely a lot more pace to come. I think I played it a little safe and I am definitely losing time in t9/10. Overall though I felt like I could keep up ok with the GTRs. Maybe it's just DR C drivers but I felt like I had much better traction out of t1 and 3.
Edit: btw are both tyres required? I felt like I could easily do soft/soft but I ended up switching to meds because I wasn't sure..
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- 1,492
- United States
- equus_ferrum
My week so far in Race A:
-7 Starts
-4 Poles
-7 wins
-7 CRBs
-40 of 49 laps led
Even though the entire Top 10 is now composed of wall-riders, I have yet to see one in an actual race. Ugh why doesn't this track come up more often?? I wish PD would've added the Motegi oval. We'd definitely be seeing that come up in the rotation a lot...
-7 Starts
-4 Poles
-7 wins
-7 CRBs
-40 of 49 laps led
Even though the entire Top 10 is now composed of wall-riders, I have yet to see one in an actual race. Ugh why doesn't this track come up more often?? I wish PD would've added the Motegi oval. We'd definitely be seeing that come up in the rotation a lot...
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I ran a race in C last night in the '16 Nsx and went from 16th to 3rd with a CRB 5m/9s brakes to the front a couple of ticks to even the tyre wear out and TCS 1 to keep the rear alive. Had a real change to the driving style no trailing the brake. Get it slowed and back on throttle as I turned in. Was great fun
- 3,362
- Canada
Yes both tyres or you get a 1hr penalty or something.
So I echo others on that race C is quite dirty. Some of it bedlam dirty, some subtle but a lot of guys poking their nose in with zero right to the corner, it is very frustrating.
Mamaged to get qualy down to a 21.003 (dammit) and that really helped, there are a LOT of A drivers between 21.0 and 21.4. This few tenths meant I started top 10 on an all A field and finished 4th.
Clear air is vital, the nature of the corners means that if in a fight you lose a ton of time as they are so exit dependent. Some clear air to circulate neatly is really helpful.
So I echo others on that race C is quite dirty. Some of it bedlam dirty, some subtle but a lot of guys poking their nose in with zero right to the corner, it is very frustrating.
Mamaged to get qualy down to a 21.003 (dammit) and that really helped, there are a LOT of A drivers between 21.0 and 21.4. This few tenths meant I started top 10 on an all A field and finished 4th.
Clear air is vital, the nature of the corners means that if in a fight you lose a ton of time as they are so exit dependent. Some clear air to circulate neatly is really helpful.
- 2,430
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
It’s way dirty right now. Not sure if it’ll clean up either. Sure doesn’t feel like it. My main problem is turn 3. Of course the first lap is the worse cause we’re all bunched up. But people have been wall riding me all day there. I think my only option is to defend there no matter what the first couple laps until we spread out. It’s a shame because you lose so much time there if you don’t go for a proper apex
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