"Daily" Race Discussion

[Stilva]

Against my better judgement I did 2 more races today. Interesting times in the lower SR lobbies, but I survived.

Race 1 I start P6. Total chaos from everyone in the lobby with me dropping back to P8 at one point and fighting back into a P6 finish. Too much to type out here, but it was a typical Monza race. Off tracks by everybody, questionable moves, and lots of contact. SR drops to 67. I think about ending the night there and hope to recover SR next week.

Nope (as you could have guessed), I press on to race 2 where I start P5. P4 either spins the tires or doesn’t take off on purpose at the start and I steal a spot. The top 4 make it through turn 1 clean and we break away from the field. The pole-sitter runs wide coming out of Lesmo 1 and I’m up to P3. 2 laps later I let the pole-sitter go by me (A rated driver) and catch their draft. P1 and P2 start fighting and I briefly taker over P1 but fall back to P2. I manage to catch some gravel and spin out after the second chicane and back to P5 one lap later. I get into the back of P4 at one point and I was going to give the spot back after they served a penalty, but they pull over and let be by. I found that to be odd. I almost lose it on the last lap coming out of Ascari and manage to keep it straight and don’t lose P3 somehow. My SR goes back to 80, barely S rank. Hooray!

And with that I’m done taking my chances at Monza this week. I don’t want to lose that SR I just got back and be stuck in crazy driver lobbies. I honestly should not race at Monza ever again in daily races after my last 2 experiences there with SR drops. Even thought I like the track, others can't be trusted with the lack of a penalty system.

Race C - Gr.2 at Sardegna B

Let's go! My favorite type of cars to race in. Need to learn Sardegna B, but it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Over 1700 races, nearly 500 individual nights of racing, finally hit 40k DR tonight. I hit 38,800 some 175 days ago but got reset and finally did it tonight.

RACE B is a little nuts, I cannot seem to lose DR there no matter where I finish. I dont have the true pace to compete for podiums but I often finish top 6 or 7 and the DR just keep adding up, gained near 5k in 4 nights. Its a very tricky race, one needs to focus on exits not entry and line is super important.

Since the great penalty reset of 2021 I am not collecting wind, they are super rare for me now as there's no cleaning up against weaker drivers. It does get a bit dull battling for 5th but what can you do.

I am done until last week of the month, will be sorry to miss group 2 next week.

 

[meekrab]

99SR Lobby Race C just now, genius player decides to throw it up the inside of Chicane 2 from .5 back, rams me off the track, then says its my fault in the post race.

Some players should just be limited to Race A.

aaaaaand I get disconnected from the 00:00 race so I guess that's me done for the night.

 

[Redneckchef]

99SR Lobby Race C just now, genius player decides to throw it up the inside of Chicane 2 from .5 back, rams me off the track, then says its my fault in the post race.

Some players should just be limited to Race A.

aaaaaand I get disconnected from the 00:00 race so I guess that's me done for the night.

I dont want those leadfooted muppets in race A anymore than you want them in C. I think we all just dont want them around. Or at least they should admit they screwed up and not blame you for daring to brake for a corner, like normal people.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Two runs at Race B last night, sliding the WRX around the RBR. Both were actually really fun races.

First race my Q time of 1:02:2XX put me in 6th, although I was promoted to 5th early in the race. It was a largely uneventful race, with some tussling in the first couple of laps, but most people kept their noses clean (although I did see some battles ahead incurring penalties, but not enough for me to catch them). I was fairly stunned to see one driver in an NSX (who finished in 7th!) and a Ferrari 458!

Second race I went out for more practice laps and got my time down to 1:01:4XX (very nearly a top 500 time on the Asia-Pacific servers) which put me Q3. On the opening lap I misjudged the braking point and ran a bit deep, running the P2 Evo out wide. I tried to slow for him to pass but two WRX's were being overly aggressive so I decided to defend from them and the Evo dropped back to 5th. He was pretty quick though, so I was confident he would catch up. Lap 3 he tried a fairly questionable lunge at T1 which would have been a revenge punt. Regardless, I made sure I kept an eye on him, and lap 6 I let him through at T2. Held position to finish P3 , tucked in behind P2 and a few seconds ahead of P4.

It's a fun race really. I like the completely different braking/turning characteristics of the Gr.4s in the rain.

 

[Norrin Radd]

99SR Lobby Race C just now, genius player decides to throw it up the inside of Chicane 2 from .5 back, rams me off the track, then says its my fault in the post race.

Some players should just be limited to Race A.

aaaaaand I get disconnected from the 00:00 race so I guess that's me done for the night.

It's a tough one. The lower your DR the bigger the difference between driving styles and so more crashes happen, but restricting bad players to race A would mean they would be learning how to race faster cars at a higher level mucking up those players. Being a lowly B I just try my best not to muck peoples games up, most try too hard and so make many mistakes mucking up everyone's game. Maybe something like a solution would be having a race that didn't count towards DR, SR would obviously still need to count but could be more lenient. I know you have the lobby, but even when I have a connection good enough to use it I find it a pain, get into a race only for the owner to quit or you have an idiot wanting to play bumper cars.

 

[05XR8]

On an Alfa kick. Used the 4C. Was good. Couple of divebombed, but also avoiding people sliding and losing it in AWDs(go figure).
One player in an Evo, went all the way out to Gundungaland, at the final corner and rejoins at full speed, right into the driver's side of the GT-R ahead of me. The GT-R backed way off. Nearly stopping to get away from that player. I just stayed behind the Evo. Watching it get out of shape and spearing off on his own at T1-2.

Looking forward to the next lot of races.

 

[Stephan]

I couldn't resist doing at least one more Daily Race B after calling it a week so I did one attempt only.

I went to my main account and did quali on the WRX this time around compared to my alt where I relied on the GTR. Managed to get a 1:00.9 out of it so going to the race regardless of where I start, I'm fine with it but surprisingly I managed to start pole. My gap to the driver starting in second was just around .050 secs so I was surprised.

Going to the race and throughout all the race I was making sure I don't make a single mistake and while I managed to do that for 4 laps, in lap 5 I made a mistake of going fast and risky on the first turn and the game slapped me with a .5 sec penalty and there I slightly panicked because there goes my chance of winning the race but then luck stroke when as soon as the dude who overtook me overshot the Rindt corner.



I regained my lead and from there after 2 more laps of defending first place, I managed to survive and win the race. Now I'm really done for the week.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Man, leading with 1.02s? Your qualy was faster than mine but I need to turn 1.01.7s to even stay top 5. Its brutally fast.

 

[Little_Guppy]

Grrr!

Did two C races. First one - unexpectedly had pole but had not practiced stopping points from pole. D'oh! I experienced normal rustiness in the race and got hit twice by the same guy even after I cleanly passed him. He did not stick around for post chat.

The second race was infuriating. I recognized the bad dude (A+). Yep, he hit me off at the second Lesmo on lap 2 or 3. Someonr then knocked him off. Not for me. I am sure he has built up many enemies.

 

[NoStopN]

Going to the race and throughout all the race I was making sure I don't make a single mistake and while I managed to do that for 4 laps, in lap 5 I made a mistake of going fast and risky on the first turn and the game slapped me with a .5 sec penalty and there I slightly panicked because there goes my chance of winning the race but then luck stroke when as soon as the dude who overtook me overshot the Rindt corner.

I don't think he just overshot Rindt, he overshot the Earth.

 

[05XR8]

Saw a player in Race B with a 1:01.3xx at D/E. How is that possible? Thought B was the bottom.
Edit: Someone else is at D/C.

 

[Charmantha]

Saw a player in Race B with a 1:01.3xx at D/E. How is that possible? Thought B was the bottom.
Edit: Someone else is at D/C.

I don't know if E is equivalent to being the meanest unfair driver. I encountered them regularly and can't say, that any of them was particularly aggressive. They are mostly much faster than the average in my group. If I remember correctly, they start from the back of the field. (no qualify) so, maybe they use their alt accounts, and want to get their alt accounts to move up fast from group D or C to B/A. And in that process their SR drops as fast as DR goes up because overtaking e.g. 14 cars in a race can't always be done by clean racing.

 

[05XR8]

When I dropped my ranking from S/S to D/S, I never saw an E/E or D/E. True, I wasn't taking people out, as I kept quitting my races. Never saw those rankings(D/E and D/C) in all the time I've played.

 

[Keef]

When I dropped my ranking from S/S to D/S, I never saw an E/E or D/E. True, I wasn't taking people out, as I kept quitting my races. Never saw those rankings(D/E and D/C) in all the time I've played.

I saw low safety ratings when I first got the same in early 2020 but after a big penalty system update in late 2020 (I think) it basically eliminated all the minor penalties. The good thing was that all the minor bumps and scrapes people complained about where gone, the bad thing was that suddenly everybody had an S safety rating and it's basically impossible to lose it. Frankly, I preferred the earlier way of doing things. There is far too much belligerent contact these days and far too many people who don't deserve an A safety rating, especially in the B category I race in. In fact, I probably wouldn't have an S safety rating in the old system.

I think perhaps track excursions should be included in safety rating as well. I'm not sure how they weight the ratings but having overlap in both directions could be helpful. Currently, besides people who are literally playing the game for the first time or running their first 10 races or whatever, the safety rating is meaningless.

Edit:

Saw a player in Race B with a 1:01.3xx at D/E. How is that possible? Thought B was the bottom.
Edit: Someone else is at D/C.

That probably means they either reset their ratings (I don't even know how to do that) or they just loaded up the game for the first time and are running their first races. I remember in 2020 it only took me several races to raise my safety rating above a B but I definitely started with Es. Likewise, climbing through D and C driver ratings only took about 20 races and several wins.

 

[Little_Guppy]

Saw a player in Race B with a 1:01.3xx at D/E. How is that possible? Thought B was the bottom.
Edit: Someone else is at D/C.

I don't know if E is equivalent to being the meanest unfair driver. I encountered them regularly and can't say, that any of them was particularly aggressive. They are mostly much faster than the average in my group. If I remember correctly, they start from the back of the field. (no qualify) so, maybe they use their alt accounts, and want to get their alt accounts to move up fast from group D or C to B/A. And in that process their SR drops as fast as DR goes up because overtaking e.g. 14 cars in a race can't always be done by clean racing.

I see an E get set after a race when a driver quits. It has no meaning. The game is just ignoring them.

The next case is a new account. For the first five races you get no DR points and effectively have zero assigned to you. I do not remember if that is a DR.D or DR.E.

So, for the most part, I just treat E as an uninitialized value like "--" with no meaning attached.

 

[O604]

Tried about 10 races this week. Disconnected from most of them. PS and router says everything is fine. I've reset everything already, many times, it's become my morning ritual. Goes from green to red every race now, super frustrating. Oh well, guess I'll try again tomorrow.

 

[jrbabbitt]

This post might be off to the side on topic but I think it has relevance here...
I tried my time on the Daily C at Monza and with the 787B which held up good but my driving did not, but each and every time I drive on this track I'm thinking that I am James Garner in the 1966 film Gran Prix.

Bottom pic is the film.
Which also brings up a wish of having these older F1 cars in Gran Turismo and if possible the older, longer Monza track WITH the magnificent banked turn.

I guess I'm old school racer...

 

[barak181]

Saw a player in Race B with a 1:01.3xx at D/E. How is that possible? Thought B was the bottom.
Edit: Someone else is at D/C.

New alt account? D/E is your rating when your account first start Sports mode, right? You don't even earn DR for your first 5 races.

And if I remember right, SR C is between 20-30, SR D is between 10-20 and SR E is below 10. Or something close to that, at least.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

This post might be off to the side on topic but I think it has relevance here...
I tried my time on the Daily C at Monza and with the 787B which held up good but my driving did not, but each and every time I drive on this track I'm thinking that I am James Garner in the 1966 film Gran Prix.View attachment 1074304
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Bottom pic is the film.
Which also brings up a wish of having these older F1 cars in Gran Turismo and if possible the older, longer Monza track WITH the magnificent banked turn.
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I guess I'm old school racer...

Lots of us think of that movie when racing Monza. The horrible crash always flashes before me when I pass the bridge.
I used to race old school F1 in Gran Prix Legends. I wish we had those tracks and cars.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Lots of us think of that movie when racing Monza. The horrible crash always flashes before me when I pass the bridge.
I used to race old school F1 in Gran Prix Legends. I wish we had those tracks and cars.

Thank you

 

[05XR8]

New alt account? D/E is your rating when your account first start Sports mode, right? You don't even earn DR for your first 5 races.

And if I remember right, SR C is between 20-30, SR D is between 10-20 and SR E is below 10. Or something close to that, at least.

New accounts start at E/B. I’ve seen C/C. To see a D/E, even someone tagged that players name and typed ,”D/E?”. I‘m not doubting that player tanking their ranking for wins with that 1 minute qualy, but to be at SR E? Truly odd. Didn’t seem like that player was smashing people off. That player did quit a couple times after losing the lead.

 

[Winnie847]

I should have known he was going to do this. Dude let’s me get along side of him just so he can try to push me off. He’s on my list.

 

[Little_Guppy]

This post might be off to the side on topic but I think it has relevance here...
I tried my time on the Daily C at Monza and with the 787B which held up good but my driving did not, but each and every time I drive on this track I'm thinking that I am James Garner in the 1966 film Gran Prix.View attachment 1074304
View attachment 1074305
Bottom pic is the film.
Which also brings up a wish of having these older F1 cars in Gran Turismo and if possible the older, longer Monza track WITH the magnificent banked turn.
View attachment 1074306
I guess I'm old school racer...

Back in the day I played, or tried to play, Grand Prix Legends. It was based on F1 cars in 1967. That year is important as they moved the formula from 2 litre to 4 litre engines. During the course of the season the engineers figured they could add wings to make the corner faster.

The game tried to model all of that on mid 1990s computers. It was ridiculously difficult to play.

It was the first racing game where I experienced the effect of throttle for turning. It blew me away as I didn't even know that was a "thing".

Fun times.

 

[87lc2]

I should have known he was going to do this. Dude let’s me get along side of him just so he can try to push me off. He’s on my list.

Doesn't get any more malicious than that. Have seen that move quite a few times myself I'm sorry to say. Not sure what they get out of doing that...

 

[87lc2]

Jumped in for one Race C tonight and landed in the top split, pretty much all A+ drivers and a few lowly As, including myself. Started 15th and made my way up to 9th having a really solid run. On lap 10 I get disconnected, that's never happened to me in race before. I figured no big deal, then realized that I lost nearly 1000 DR from that. So rather than gaining some from beating out a few A+ drivers I lose a bunch, feel like disconnects should not result in losses like that.

 

[afc5150]

Race B has been my jam this week. Love it. My time of 1:01:6xx isn't great and lands me in around 10th for most races, but I am patient and patience pays off in this race combo! Combined with 2 podiums in FIA this week, 2 daily B wins, and a BUNCH of top 5's, I'm up over 5K DR and back into low DR A. Low DR A being probably the dirtiest of them all.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Tried to build up some DR point last night after a couple of dreary FIA races recently. Jumped ontk Race B as I'd done okay there on my alt account, in the Subie. First race went pretty well, Q9 and finished P5 after a fairly clean and tidy race. Next race Q7 and found myself in P3 on the 6th lap when GT Sport decides to crash! Lose 1,500 DR just like that. 👎 So I try again, Q1, P1, fastest lap and clean race - even lapped the Bugatti in last place! Stoked with that, so try another race. Q8, taken out three times in the first 2 laps and P14 at T2 on lap 3, then fought my way back to P10. After all that, ended up 200 DR down from where I started. ☹

 

[Winnie847]

Well, I guess the SR system is active again because I got a DR reset after getting murdered about 57 times and revenge-punting only a couple of them. It wasn’t even that bad. I got completely obliterated several times in the same race and when I caught back up all I did was take the inside line and push the punters wide a bit. Race C was pretty brutal but I did have some great races and even got a couple no-qualy wins in top split. After several good races I told myself I’d run “one more.” Should have just called it a night. Now I’m down to 40k DR. I haven’t been racing much at all since the end of the last FIA season, maybe one or two days a month. but it looks like I’ll need to do a little grinding to get back to A+.

 

[NoStopN]

Doesn't get any more malicious than that. Have seen that move quite a few times myself I'm sorry to say. Not sure what they get out of doing that...

A cheap win. But for some people, the win is all that matters.

Well, I guess the SR system is active again because I got a DR reset after getting murdered about 57 times and revenge-punting only a couple of them. It wasn’t even that bad. I got completely obliterated several times in the same race and when I caught back up all I did was take the inside line and push the punters wide a bit. Race C was pretty brutal but I did have some great races and even got a couple no-qualy wins in top split. After several good races I told myself I’d run “one more.” Should have just called it a night. Now I’m down to 40k DR. I haven’t been racing much at all since the end of the last FIA season, maybe one or two days a month. but it looks like I’ll need to do a little grinding to get back to A+.

Sounds like you hadn't seen the chatter lately. Since the last update, the penalties have seemingly gone MIA, but the SR hits are still there. That explains why dirty drivers are "getting away" with their driving. I haven't driven in a month, so I haven't seen if some of the dirties have been SR punished & dropped to DR/SR levels below ours.