Datamined car list

[CinnamonOD]

I see you failed to read the part where we know more, but haven't shared it because we know the impact (from the initial leak) 👍

And before you call "we know more" a tease, it wasn't brought up until necessary to explain said point.

Nenkai’s threads on Twitter are the teasing I’m mentioning, which in hindsight it might not be the best idea to do those and then play internet police because other people might get in trouble for having information that they should not have access to through normal means

 

[Nenkai]

for something that was eventually gonna be found anyways.

In which case if more people than them were interested, there would've been more information to come out of all this.
The questionable part there is how fast it's being done by the recurring source actively doing this. Would we be at this point without them? Not doubting so. It takes initial knowledge to know what to do.

We wouldn't be at this point in time where PDI is taking active action due to up-to-date knowledge.

 

[sparkytooth]

I get that this will affect the game or whatever. But my point is who are you to decide what people do with what they've learned? This whole song and dance and made up drama seems unecessary for what is a standard datamine. Happens to all kinds of games all the time and the way you've been acting about it seems unecessarily aggressive.

 

[George Jakob]

So do you actually care about the impact this is demonstrably having on the game, or are you just in it for clout?

Excuse me for inserting myself into your little fight like that , but what is the "damage" you are talking about. ?

 

[TheAdmiester]

Excuse me for inserting myself into your little fight like that , but what is the "damage" you are talking about. ?

PD having to effectively rewrite parts of the game's file system - since the entire game is contained within this custom file system, everything that changes with it will have a domino effect on other parts of the game (e.g. regression testing, making sure things still work with the new systems). This is spending (or wasting, depending on how you see it) valuable dev time on something that wasn't an issue before, and naturally that has a big impact on a game where people are complaining about slow updates and PD being very opaque. This is the one that effectively impacts everyone

The other impact, from a slightly more selfish perspective since some of us here are modders, is that 10-15 years down the line, when the game is no longer supported and people start looking into modding it (see GT2 and the PS3 GTs), there will be so many more barriers in place because of these tightened restrictions, meaning we might not be able to mod the game at all in future. In theory, this could also mean that any potential "restoration" projects, once PD has closed the servers, might also be made impossible.

 

[Yuto55]

How do you know that the updates are slow because they are rewriting the code and doing all the things you say because of the leak? how can you be so sure ?

 

[TheAdmiester]

How do you know that the updates are slow because they are rewriting the code and doing all the things you say because of the leak? how can you be so sure ?

Because the file system is different, that doesn't just happen on its own. It needs to be designed, planned, coded, and tested, and then sent through another round of the publisher's QA process.

 

[CinnamonOD]

Because the file system is different, that doesn't just happen on its own. It needs to be designed, planned, coded, and tested, and then sent through another round of the publisher's QA process.

Well, look at it from the positive perspective

Once the code is nearly bulletproof, we’ll get all the content they’re preparing at a faster rate, right?

Keep the leaks coming, boys

 

[George Jakob]

PD having to effectively rewrite parts of the game's file system - since the entire game is contained within this custom file system, everything that changes with it will have a domino effect on other parts of the game (e.g. regression testing, making sure things still work with the new systems). This is spending (or wasting, depending on how you see it) valuable dev time on something that wasn't an issue before, and naturally that has a big impact on a game where people are complaining about slow updates and PD being very opaque. This is the one that effectively impacts everyone

I would argue that PD should've made the code harder to read in the first place if they didn't want to be bothered . Besides that tho i don't think the devs responsible for patching the code are the same as those working on other areas, and the people doing that are justified since GT7 released with less new cars than GT5 Prologue on Day 1, and the updates are providing significantly less content than what was of for GT Sport in the same period.

The other impact, from a slightly more selfish perspective since some of us here are modders, is that 10-15 years down the line, when the game is no longer supported and people start looking into modding it (see GT2 and the PS3 GTs), there will be so many more barriers in place because of these tightened restrictions, meaning we might not be able to mod the game at all in future. In theory, this could also mean that any potential "restoration" projects, once PD has closed the servers, might also be made impossible.

Thats understandable.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Well, look at it from the positive perspective

Once the code is nearly bulletproof, we’ll get all the content they’re preparing at a faster rate, right?

Keep the leaks coming, boys

Since you're not bothering to actually listen to what anyone's saying, I'm really wondering why you even bothered throwing your hat in the ring.

I would argue that PD should've made the code harder to read in the first place if they didn't want to be bothered . Besides that tho i don't think the devs responsible for patching the code are the same as those working on other areas, and the people doing that are justified since GT7 released with less new cars than GT5 Prologue on Day 1, and the updates are providing significantly less content than what was of for GT Sport in the same period.

Missed this when I initially replied - no readable code is in the game, that's not really how it works. And yes, while the devs who work on the file system aren't the same as, say, network or gameplay devs, every dev works on projects that use files within said system, so whenever the file system changes, things need to be tested to make sure they haven't been broken. Now that PD have to do it across three Playstation SKUs, that's an even bigger task than it was before.

 

[tankuroded]

Irregular reminder about the precedent of the Red Bull X2010 JP Flag Color and the unused C7 Corvette Test Prototype duplicate being removed from GT5 completely after version 2.12 (as part of anti-hack/cheat changes) when these cars (and some unused tickets) become public as an example of PD changing things in response to leaks.

I don't care for clout or any perceived damage these lists cause the game. The game was a steaming pile before and it'll be a steaming pile after - for damaged caused - the guys and gals at Polyphony need no helping hand. They've been on a non-stop 10 yr plus rampage destroying GT. 🤮

As long as these lists are readable, I am a firm believer that they should be shared with the community that Polyphony continues to shun.

From how you posted this, it's clear that you're doing this for more than clout, you're doing this in a bad faith towards PD.

 

[TumeK5]

god

 

[kjb]

PD having to effectively rewrite parts of the game's file system - since the entire game is contained within this custom file system, everything that changes with it will have a domino effect on other parts of the game (e.g. regression testing, making sure things still work with the new systems). This is spending (or wasting, depending on how you see it) valuable dev time on something that wasn't an issue before, and naturally that has a big impact on a game where people are complaining about slow updates and PD being very opaque. This is the one that effectively impacts everyone

The other impact, from a slightly more selfish perspective since some of us here are modders, is that 10-15 years down the line, when the game is no longer supported and people start looking into modding it (see GT2 and the PS3 GTs), there will be so many more barriers in place because of these tightened restrictions, meaning we might not be able to mod the game at all in future. In theory, this could also mean that any potential "restoration" projects, once PD has closed the servers, might also be made impossible.

How would you be able to mod this game in 10-15 years if it's an online game and they turn off the servers for this game. Not trying to mean or anything I just generally curious

 

[Cheshyrkat]

Reading through all this back and forth and it seems to boil down to some dataminers are concerned that the datamining is causing additional development resources to curtail the dataminers from datamining, possibly to the detriment of the games future, all observed while datamining every update/release and sharing/teasing the changes and updates to the data structure....lol. That box was opened as soon as it became public knowledge, via whatever social media outlet, that it was possible to scrape the games data and glean whatever information that could possibly hint at a roadmap. Of course folks with the means and desire will do whatever they can to find said data and that will be shared, consumed, rinse & repeat. All done for a wide variety of reasons and as long as people are hungry for it, it will continue. There is no responsible release of data with this, no high road beyond a personal take. Teasing or holding back information will only encourage another to step up and share, good or bad. All we can really do is ride this out and watch what PD will do. In the mean time, I will consume said data as it becomes available.

 

[Nenkai]

How would you be able to mod this game in 10-15 years if it's an online game and they turn off the servers for this game. Not trying to mean or anything I just generally curious

A lot of the game's content and functionality works offline, and generally, at least since GT4, the games are quite flexible. There are usually ways around each roadblock, and that is if there isn't a way to do what you want to do, because they usually leave one for themselves at least.

all observed while datamining every update/release and sharing/teasing the changes and updates to the data structure....lol. That box was opened as soon as it became public knowledge, via whatever social media outlet, that it was possible to scrape the games data and glean whatever information that could possibly hint at a roadmap.

I can say with confidence that as of right now there is pretty much nobody that got hold of the information that we do, including the person sharing the little that they possess yet dangerous; hence refering to "file unpackers".

I do believe that the action they can take will scale to what is actually being shared in public, though. That's my concern.

 

[Sojiira]

From how you posted this, it's clear that you're doing this for more than clout, you're doing this in a bad faith towards PD.

To be fair he openly shares and guides those to find the little things hidden away to make the offline experience of GTS way more fun for those that dabble. Certainly makes it more interesting around here.

And there are valid hypothetical concerns but also being worried about people getting in trouble is patronizingly comical as a reason for wanting to censor around the topic.

 

[Cheshyrkat]

I can say with confidence that as of right now there is pretty much nobody that got hold of the information that we do, including the person sharing the little that they possess yet dangerous; hence refering to "file unpackers".

I do believe that the action they can take will scale to what is actually being shared in public, though. That's my concern.

That is the point. The possiblity has been put out there and it is going to be explored.

 

[Nenkai]

To be fair he openly shares and guides those to find the little things hidden away to make the offline experience of GTS way more fun for those that dabble. Certainly makes it more interesting around here.

This is perhaps the only good thing that ever came out of it.

That is the point. The possiblity has been put out there and it is going to be explored.

With what just happened, I would hold no uncertainty in that regard.

 

[TheAdmiester]

How would you be able to mod this game in 10-15 years if it's an online game and they turn off the servers for this game. Not trying to mean or anything I just generally curious

Basically, GT4 through to GT Sport all use a secondary scripting language to control most of the game’s logic. Pretty much everything that isn’t physics or graphics rendering is driven by it. For GT5 and 6, some folks have been able to reverse engineer those scripts enough for us to be able to understand and even write our own scripts (see some of my posts in the GT6 modding thread where I actually made a used car dealer for GT6).

With so much control over the game, in theory there’s nothing stopping from simply rewriting portions of the game/menu logic to save files locally. After all, I already do it for things like storing the current stock of UCD cars in GT6, so there’s nothing to say we can’t simply say “this is the user’s saved game, they’ve completed these events, own these cars, and have this many credits”, and rewrite parts that rely on the save to rely on this data instead.

So with that in mind, the theory is that once we’re far enough down the line for GTS/7 to have shut down, we’ll also be far enough down the line to understand more about their scripts and hopefully be able to write our own. Once you have direct access to a game’s scripting language the sky is pretty much the limit - you can rewrite functionality or add entirely new things as you see fit, and we hope to do the same to make them work offline some day.

 

[kjb]

Basically, GT4 through to GT Sport all use a secondary scripting language to control most of the game’s logic. Pretty much everything that isn’t physics or graphics rendering is driven by it. For GT5 and 6, some folks have been able to reverse engineer those scripts enough for us to be able to understand and even write our own scripts (see some of my posts in the GT6 modding thread where I actually made a used car dealer for GT6).

With so much control over the game, in theory there’s nothing stopping from simply rewriting portions of the game/menu logic to save files locally. After all, I already do it for things like storing the current stock of UCD cars in GT6, so there’s nothing to say we can’t simply say “this is the user’s saved game, they’ve completed these events, own these cars, and have this many credits”, and rewrite parts that rely on the save to rely on this data instead.

So with that in mind, the theory is that once we’re far enough down the line for GTS/7 to have shut down, we’ll also be far enough down the line to understand more about their scripts and hopefully be able to write our own. Once you have direct access to a game’s scripting language the sky is pretty much the limit - you can rewrite functionality or add entirely new things as you see fit, and we hope to do the same to make them work offline some day.

Thanks for that explanation!

 

[TheAdmiester]

Thanks for that explanation!

No worries, I’m more than happy to explain to anyone who’s not being combative lol.

 

[Dave A]

Basically, GT4 through to GT Sport all use a secondary scripting language to control most of the game’s logic. Pretty much everything that isn’t physics or graphics rendering is driven by it. For GT5 and 6, some folks have been able to reverse engineer those scripts enough for us to be able to understand and even write our own scripts (see some of my posts in the GT6 modding thread where I actually made a used car dealer for GT6).

With so much control over the game, in theory there’s nothing stopping from simply rewriting portions of the game/menu logic to save files locally. After all, I already do it for things like storing the current stock of UCD cars in GT6, so there’s nothing to say we can’t simply say “this is the user’s saved game, they’ve completed these events, own these cars, and have this many credits”, and rewrite parts that rely on the save to rely on this data instead.

So with that in mind, the theory is that once we’re far enough down the line for GTS/7 to have shut down, we’ll also be far enough down the line to understand more about their scripts and hopefully be able to write our own. Once you have direct access to a game’s scripting language the sky is pretty much the limit - you can rewrite functionality or add entirely new things as you see fit, and we hope to do the same to make them work offline some day.

And the long term impact releasing unpacked data of an active AAA GAAS puts all of the above in jeapordy in a big way. I love that I can now add custom events into GT5 (I still need to buy a PS3 to start modding GT6), but for everyone who is worried that at some point GT7 will become useless once PD's servers shut down, which may or may not happen, you can rest assured if it does, modders will try to find a way around it and the easier it is for them the better for everyone.

 

[Theufcveteran]

From someone who’s part of a modding group for an old game (servers were shut down in 2013) - I understand how releasing info would make future modding more difficult, and nothing wrong with explaining why, but I don’t think there’s any point getting in an argument with someone who does so.

They have the right do what they want, sure it won’t help but it is what it is. Best you can do is keep it to yourself to minimise potential changes to the file structure.

 

[mastretta_mx]

I don't care for clout or any perceived damage these lists cause the game. The game was a steaming pile before and it'll be a steaming pile after - for damaged caused - the guys and gals at Polyphony need no helping hand. They've been on a non-stop 10 yr plus rampage destroying GT. 🤮

As long as these lists are readable, I am a firm believer that they should be shared with the community that Polyphony continues to shun.

You should feel like Homelander I guess

 

[BrunusCL82]

Is there any updated list of circuits that may be released in the future?

I know the rumors about:

• Grand Valley Speedway
• Red Rock Valley
• Road Atlanta
• Tokyo R246.

Is there anything new besides these datamined list and its four rumors?

 

[TumeK5]

Is there any updated list of circuits that may be released in the future?

Wrong thread

 

[05XR8]

The 190e as of 1.18 should be treated as legacy leftovers. It doesn't featured in the steering data or Hagerty car list.

The Cosworth on the other hand is in both, so it's almost certainly coming in a future update.

Ah, I see, but which 190E? Both, as they’re both not on the list? Or is it just the ‘91 Evo or ‘92 DTM not showing?

 

[Mo_993]

The 190e is listed but not in steering or Hagerty. So, unless the file unpackers confirm otherwise or it enters these lists in future updates...

Right now, I'm tossing it in the legacy leftovers category

Hagerty

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What happened to the GT6s touring cars 🥲 I really want the C6 RM and what about older LMPs like speed 8 .. GT7 is extremely lacking of racing cars and with 3 cars only each month I don’t think we gonna see expansive list .

 

[T4UR14N]

I'm sure alot of these cars are already finished an just sitting waiting to be released with future updates....PDs "internal" roadmap...just somebody let the cat out the bag 🤷‍♂️

Makes no sense now pointing fingers an placing blame on whose at fault

Let's just be glad we getting 3 cars a month every month for FREE

Imagine if some of those same cars were supposed to be paid DLC 🤔 but now we expect them for free 🤷‍♂️


somebody let the cat out the bag.....

 

[DiabloSV]

Is nenkai referring to this thread?