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Datamined car list
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Was always a big fan of the Trans Cammer Mustang, people can't possibly complain about it anymore when the Boss 429 is available too
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Y'know, the more I think about it, there seem to be an awful lot of vehicles that should be coming to GT7, but aren't in that list, which makes me think this datamined list is very much incomplete. For example, I definitely recall PD scanning a GT300-spec Toyota Prius, though it could very well be that they decided to forego adding it somewhere in that asset's development.
But what about the Gr.1-spec Genesis VGT? Why would Maserati only get the Merak, and not a ton more models like the MC12, the Quattroporte, or many others? (The same goes for Lancia, though getting both rally cars based on the Delta is great.) Why, for BMW, do we not see the M1, the new M8 Competition, the original 850 CSi, the road-going Z4 to go with the Z4 GT3, the new Z4, the M3 E36, the road-going version of the M6 GT3 we have, and so on?
What about smaller brands, like Saleen or Callaway? Could they possibly return with new models? (The latter would especially be exciting, since I live right near their HQ.) What about DTM, could they appear as a way to flesh out Gr.2, now that the current DTM cars are basically just GT3 cars?
This list is great, but I have a very strong feeling that it's just part of something much larger. Heck, the Suzuki VGT (and its Gr.3 version) are cars that I definitely don't recall being in this list, to name some examples.
But what about the Gr.1-spec Genesis VGT? Why would Maserati only get the Merak, and not a ton more models like the MC12, the Quattroporte, or many others? (The same goes for Lancia, though getting both rally cars based on the Delta is great.) Why, for BMW, do we not see the M1, the new M8 Competition, the original 850 CSi, the road-going Z4 to go with the Z4 GT3, the new Z4, the M3 E36, the road-going version of the M6 GT3 we have, and so on?
What about smaller brands, like Saleen or Callaway? Could they possibly return with new models? (The latter would especially be exciting, since I live right near their HQ.) What about DTM, could they appear as a way to flesh out Gr.2, now that the current DTM cars are basically just GT3 cars?
This list is great, but I have a very strong feeling that it's just part of something much larger. Heck, the Suzuki VGT (and its Gr.3 version) are cars that I definitely don't recall being in this list, to name some examples.
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Just drop by and ask why they're not in GT anymore then
Hmm? The old DTM cars you mean for Gr.2? Considering they're also basically Class 2 cars I'd agree that that'd make sense.
In the end all of these things come down to licensing and nobody of us knows how good or bad PD is at negotiating that.
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My theory is that PD rushed the game out for March (25th Anniversary) and they made sure to incorporate the minimum needed for a game. I think (almost) every car in the steering data mine is done or is being withheld intentionally so that PD have time to work on other cars either from scratch or as upgrades from GT6.
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Jaguar xj220 please 🙏
That’s one theory. I don’t think it takes into account the realities of game development in the current environment (very slow!). Or how long this generation will last.
It’s more likely PD/Sony have a 3-year update plan for GT7. Culminating in GT7 2.0. Whether that’s a PS5 only release is up for debate. If GT7 supports PSVR2 I imagine that would have to be a PS5 only feature.
Then we have a likely PC port. Sony haven’t been shy in releasing special edition’s of PS4 titles. IE The Uncharted Collection & Last of Us Remake are PS5/PC only.
Sony will also want to capitalise on the forthcoming GT movie. Which is scheduled to release August ‘23.
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The DTM is still exclusive to RaceRoom, to what degree and for how long is not known however. They have the full lineup for each of the 1992, 2013-2016, 2020 and 2021 seasons and those are fully exclusive I believe, but they also have the Mercedes DTM cars from 1995, 2003 and 2005, which might be part of a deal with Mercedes to be exclusive as well. So we don't even really know if the E 190 Evo2 DTM on that datamined list can even be licensed for GT7 or if they would have to make a deal with Raceroom or Mercedes or the DTM itself.
The last DTM cars appeared in GT6 in 2013 before Raceroom acquired the exclusive DTM license, except for the 1993 Alfa, which doesn't appear in Raceroom at all.
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There is some evidence, per se, it was listed in the NVIDIA leak a while back, and to my knowledge, everything on there has been correct, but of course past releases are not a guarantee for the future. Things could’ve changed between now and then, or they’re still working on it.
Would be weird to see GT on PC though. Not that I don’t want to to happen or I have anything against it, I’m just used to it being PS only that it will be odd seeing it on a PC, but cool for the modding potential when the servers are taken offline.
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That was really no more than just a scalped list of games from a number of stores not just Steam. The GT7 entry didnt appear as an entry for Steam. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't prove or disprove that GT7 is heading to PC. I'd love a moddable PC port personally, and it is within the realms of possibility, but there's not really any evidence.
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Very much in agreement there.
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Yes, we covered it at the time too, and for some reason were the only outlet I'm aware of to notice and flag a particularly relevant detail:
God of War - Steam ID - PC release January 2022
God of War Ragnarok - No Steam ID - No PC release yet, no PC release confirmed
Horizon Zero Dawn - Steam ID - PC release August 2020
Horizon Forbidden West - No Steam ID - No PC release yet, no PC release confirmed
Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection - Steam ID - PC release coming in Q3/Q4 2022
With that in mind, GT7 has no Steam ID in the "leak" list. That doesn't mean it will never have a PC release, but it does mean that the list does not confirm that it is in development for PC.
There are exceptions, such as Spider-Man/Miles Morales, which didn't appear in the list at all, but still had a PC release. Nobody has been able to account for why that is.
It's also worth reading the fourth paragraph of the Reddit post you quoted.
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Oh, I wasn’t aware, thanks for filling me in. Yeah, I did see what they said about PS Now, possible for sure and if there’s no Steam ID, it could either be a Spider-Man: Miles Morales situation or it’s for PS Now, or it was for testing during development.
Is there a forth option? It must be on there for some reason, right? A PC companion app of some sort (which would likely be on mobile if one were to exist) would probably have a different name I imagine.
Only time will tell, interested to see what comes of it.
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Time will tell, but ultimately the list was scraping from multiple stores so it only confirms that GT7 was a game on a store which wasn't Steam as at the time that the list was scraped.
I wouldn't read more into it than that at this point, as we have no way of knowing why some games appeared and others didn't, but it's not evidence of a PC port as it stands.
PlayStation Mobile Inc. was Sony’s PC publishing arm. Recently that changed to PlayStation PC LLC. PlayStation console titles are published by SIE.
NVIDIA GeForce NOW leak suggests more Sony PlayStation games might be coming to PCs - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA has issued a short statement, published by Wccftech: NVIDIA is aware of an unauthorized published game list, with both released and/or speculative titles, used only for internal tracking and testing. Inclusion on the list is neither confirmation nor an announcement of any game. NVIDIA...
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All PlayStation titles listed are published by PlayStation Mobile Inc. This is why you don’t see, for example, Uncharted 4. But Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection is listed. This was an unannounced title when the leak originally happened. It’s a PS5/PC exclusive.
Neither did Uncharted Collection have a Steam ID back when the leak occurred. Same for Returnal & Sackboy: A Big Adventure. Both these titles have now had PC screenshot leaks. With Returnal files also discovered on Steam. Digital Foundry where aware of the Sackboy PC port many months ago. Having close links with Sumo-Digital in the UK. Alex Battaglia has since said he is aware of the GT7 PC port.
Spider-Man/Miles Morales weren’t on the leak. Although this is a licensed title so negotiations may have been underway. What we do know is Spider-Man is releasing on 12th August. While the port house, Nixxes, officially joined PlayStation Studios in July ‘21.
While some games on the Nvidia list have seemingly since been cancelled (Tomb Raider Remaster, Titanfall 3, Mirrors Edge RTX). I’m personally expecting everything of note from Sony to find it’s way to PC.
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I would be very surprised if GT didn't come to PC eventually. The success of FM7 on PC, and to an extent the Horizon games shows there is a big demand for the type of gap that GT fills on PC, it's just not being filled.
They'd do well to beat FM8 to the punch but I don't think the game is ready enough to be on both platforms considering they update at the pace they do as it is.
Only thing that makes me think otherwise is PD's anti-cheating stance, I imagine they'd be nervous about any potential exploits considering they've made the past two entries online only to prevent exactly that.
They'd do well to beat FM8 to the punch but I don't think the game is ready enough to be on both platforms considering they update at the pace they do as it is.
Only thing that makes me think otherwise is PD's anti-cheating stance, I imagine they'd be nervous about any potential exploits considering they've made the past two entries online only to prevent exactly that.
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With how buggy GT7 already is on a first party console, the thought of a PC version of GT7 genuinely scares me.
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Good point. Cant even imagine how multiplayer races will be with pc hackers running arround
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People still take the NVIDIA GeForce Now "leak" as a gospel? Away from that talk:
RaceRoom never promoted how exclusive the DTM license were until the 2020 season pack came out afaik. Then again, given what The Crew 2 did, they could just put in launch livery models without any mentions of DTM on the livery or car name ("BMW M4 Turbo Gr.2 '20" anyone?)
Of all the Sony first party titles released on PC, the newest is/will be Spider-Man Miles Morales in a couple of days, two years after the console version. They were also all after the console version was "finished", no more patches/updates/DLC. None have been released whilst still being updated and developed on console.
IF GT7 is coming to PC, and it absolutely may do, it's not going to be until 2024 at the earliest.
IF GT7 is coming to PC, and it absolutely may do, it's not going to be until 2024 at the earliest.
This somehow sweeped past my eyes;
With no real elaboration and reason on the subject, it is therefore fair to consider that the admins are enjoying this content as much as everyone else, regardless of the risks involved. A pity. Expected more consideration from the top than "this".
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