Datamined car list

[McLaren]

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Nvm. Deep bit of Googling answered my question.

 

[eric90716]

Really excited to see this. We have old classics returning such as Skyline Silhouette and Escudo Pikes Peak. But mostly I'm grateful for a bunch of Lotus cars coming up, considering the British sportscar maker was missing altogether.

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I really want to drive LFA in GT7 soon

 

[WanganDream]

Assuming this list is true and actually added to the game, Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime.

For example they added Cappuccino to the game and then added the Japanese Kei Cup as a new racing event.
If we consider that the Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime, or the following month, etc., and with that a race event for these cars like the Minivan/MPV Cup will be added, then these two MPVs on this list It makes sense.

 

[LensenGT]

It is normal for datacodes to have typos. The Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano on that list says "Fionaro". All in all, it's a list too good to be true. Whether or not it's true, we'll only know when the next update comes. I look forward to it.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Assuming this list is true and actually added to the game, Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime.

For example they added Cappuccino to the game and then added the Japanese Kei Cup as a new racing event.
If we consider that the Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime, or the following month, etc., and with that a race event for these cars like the Minivan/MPV Cup will be added, then these two MPVs on this list It makes sense.

Why would the Avantime be coming? PD never scanned it, its been covered numerous times here as to why it's not real, its some ones 3D model in an entirely different program,

There are no assets for any of these cars and the Avantime

 

[gixer dave]

And the newest car on the list is a 2019, The game should be called gran turismo retro car simulator

 

[tankuroded]

Why would the Avantime be coming? PD never scanned it, its been covered numerous times here as to why it's not real, its some ones 3D model in an entirely different program,

There are no assets for any of these cars and the Avantime

The software shown was for a different function, by the way - Polyworks is not a modelling software, but a laser scan analyzer; of which the data had to be imported to Maya for it to work as an in-game model.

Then the goalpost was moved to how the plates were embossed, despite it matching the plate of the sold car, and the secrecy of the scanning procedure (I imagined the seller probably broke an NDA about it when they forwarded the information to whoever publicized it).

 

[TumeK5]

And the newest car on the list is a 2019

🧐

 

[Nielsen]

Assuming this list is true and actually added to the game, Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime.

For example they added Cappuccino to the game and then added the Japanese Kei Cup as a new racing event.
If we consider that the Alphard will probably be added to the game at the same time as Avantime, or the following month, etc., and with that a race event for these cars like the Minivan/MPV Cup will be added, then these two MPVs on this list It makes sense.

Actually there was a gap of one month in between the Cappuccino and the Kei events. Typical PD really.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

Actually there was a gap of one month in between the Cappuccino and the Kei events. Typical PD really.

Well, the Cappuccino arrived as the HOT car, had to wait for it to cool down a bit.

 

[DiabloSV]

Why does it matter if the car exists or not to be lazer-scanned? VGT cars doesn't exist in reality and they are profusely featured in-game.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

So, something sorta occurred to me last night. Remember how Porsche was added late in the stages of Forza motorsport 3?

You guys think PD has the models of those Lotus cars already made, and they're just waiting to pull the trigger once they've settled the licensing agreements with Geely?

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

So, something sorta occurred to me last night. Remember how Porsche was added late in the stages of Forza motorsport 3?

You guys think PD has the models of those Lotus cars already made, and they're just waiting to pull the trigger once they've settled the licensing agreements with Geely?

Absolutely. The Evora that was pulled from GT Sport at the eleventh hour is ready to go whenever it's legally possible, and likely all the other premium Lotuses, especially those modelled last (the Europas and '11 Elise).

I do wonder why the licensing seems so difficult now, GT6 had such a tremendously varied car list, perhaps all the cars it carried from GT4 were part of multi-game deals, but I do wonder about some of the obscurer marques that got Premium models: is there a licensing problem blocking the Cizeta V16T? Mario Andretti's 1942 Hudson? LCC Rocket?

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

Absolutely. The Evora that was pulled from GT Sport at the eleventh hour is ready to go whenever it's legally possible, and likely all the other premium Lotuses, especially those modelled last (the Europas and '11 Elise).

I do wonder why the licensing seems so difficult now, GT6 had such a tremendously varied car list, perhaps all the cars it carried from GT4 were part of multi-game deals, but I do wonder about some of the obscurer marques that got Premium models: is there a licensing problem blocking the Cizeta V16T? Mario Andretti's 1942 Hudson? LCC Rocket?

We'll never really know until Kaz tells us directly.

I have a feeling the Geely issue probably has something to do with other marques.

David Jaffe said on stream that when he was developing Twisted Metal 2012, Sony kept getting in the way with licensing music for his game, (Examples being some artists don't like being on the same soundtrack as other artists),

We won't know for sure until someone from Sony or Kaz himself spills the beans, but I like to think Geely has some thorn in their sides with Mclaren, or Aston Martin. 🤣

 

[05XR8]

We'll never really know until Kaz tells us directly.

I have a feeling the Geely issue probably has something to do with other marques.

David Jaffe said on stream that when he was developing Twisted Metal 2012, Sony kept getting in the way with licensing music for his game, (Examples being some artists don't like being on the same soundtrack as other artists),

We won't know for sure until someone from Sony or Kaz himself spills the beans, but I like to think Geely has some thorn in their sides with Mclaren, or Aston Martin. 🤣

I think the thorn was other marques getting paid more than Lotus. If there is some animosity between Lotus and other makes, it’ll be about worth.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

So, something sorta occurred to me last night. Remember how Porsche was added late in the stages of Forza motorsport 3?

You guys think PD has the models of those Lotus cars already made, and they're just waiting to pull the trigger once they've settled the licensing agreements with Geely?

I have the exact same feeling. I'm 99% sure that not only the '09 Evora and the '11 Elise, but all of the 7 Lotus models on the list are ready to be added since 2018 or so. If this whole story comes to a happy ending, I can easily see every Lotus there coming in a single update, at least those five road cars.

 

[Doncarlone]

Like I said some pages ago, i find it strange there are no vgt cars in that leaked car list. PD loves its vgt way too much not to make more of them.
Expected at least a vgt in every brand (even those not in the game right like per ex lotus).

 

[Famine]

Geely

Geely

I'm not sure why this myth keeps popping up.

Geely (or rather ZHG; Geely is just a brand, not the parent) doesn't licence Lotus. Lotus licences Lotus. Geely also doesn't licence Polestar, or Volvo. Polestar licences Polestar, Volvo licences Volvo.

The issues with Lotus are between Lotus and PD, not between ZHG and PD.

 

[Nielsen]

Like I said some pages ago, i find it strange there are no vgt cars in that leaked car list. PD loves its vgt way too much not to make more of them.
Expected at least a vgt in every brand (even those not in the game right like per ex lotus).

Forthcoming VGT cars yet to be formally announced are most likely under a non-disclosure agreement between the car manufacturers and PD, so they’ve probably taken their precautions to ensure that such secrets do not leak through a file system. It would make PD look bad to their partners. After all, announcing VGT projects is also a big deal to the manufacturers.

 

[Sezu]

GTS car selection at launch was unacceptable

GTS in its final form was tolerable

GT7 at launch was acceptable as long as you appreciate VGTs

If all cars mentioned in this list gets implemented GT7 will starts to reach that enjoyable status

 

[HyperSpeeder]

Absolutely. The Evora that was pulled from GT Sport at the eleventh hour is ready to go whenever it's legally possible, and likely all the other premium Lotuses, especially those modelled last (the Europas and '11 Elise).

I do wonder why the licensing seems so difficult now, GT6 had such a tremendously varied car list, perhaps all the cars it carried from GT4 were part of multi-game deals, but I do wonder about some of the obscurer marques that got Premium models: is there a licensing problem blocking the Cizeta V16T? Mario Andretti's 1942 Hudson? LCC Rocket?

It's been said Lotus asked big money for the license (on par with McLaren) and Sony said "nah".

I can see all sides of the argument.

On Lotus' side, they're one of the most significant manufacturers in motorsports. Which is true.

On Sony's side, Lotus today is little more than a niche brand with a very loose association to the long defunct F1 team and haven't been relevant in motorsports since the 90s (excluding the rebranded Renault team). Which is also true.

On Kaz's side, he recognizes the value of Lotus' cars, as seen with the recent additions of the BAC Mono and Radical SR3, but can't do anything without the license.

When it comes to obscure cars like the Cizeta, it's probably a matter of managing limited resources. For example, the latest DLC cars. The GR010 is a significant one, the Camaro is a car that involves a contract (SEMA winner) and the Suzuki is a homologation car for the Gr.3 car due to be introduced later on. Leaving no room for oddball additions.

Then there's cars like XJ220 or EB110 which are much more relevant than the Cizeta yet aren't in the game and should be higher priority.

If I were PD I'd be focusing on significant cars for the franchise as well as iconic cars. Cizeta is one, maybe less than others, but should be in consideration.

 

[RPR6143 RPG]

Hopefully this car comes to GT7 to complete the Late 1990s-Early 2000's GT500 chain as it's in the datamine

This car still survives:

 

[05XR8]

I guess with that Alphard, this was inevitable

Certainly, but then, and I’m not being sly/silly, many of those cars(duplicates, fakes, etc.) as we know, were filler for the series. The more realistic or less cluttered 100 hundred or so used cars will be enough for a start.

If we look at the past games and just pick one model for each, it’d be like GT1 and GT3 and GTS car numbers. What GT1 did, was make the car list bigger with RMs. Now, having the means of proper customisation(for those that choose to customise), may help to ease the feel of less cars than the past.

If we’re getting a 356 Coupe & Speedster, 930T, 964, 993, 996, 997, 991, KPGC10, R32, R33, R34, Corvette C2, C3, C4, C7, ‘65 Mustang, ‘69 Mustang, ‘71 Mustang, ‘15 Mustang, ‘20 Mustang, AE86, FT86, GR86, A70 Supra, A80 Supra, A90 Supra and so on with other brands, we‘re not missing out on much. Some of those gaps may yet get filled.

I guess at this stage… and trust, I can understand some frustration/concern about what used cars we are left to receive… I’m not worried about what we get. No one have to answer this, but what’s there to be concerned about? What’s the right used car to include? 100 of a random selection are still plenty.

Put it this way, looking at a real world “usedcar.com”, it’s probably mostly SUVs and pick ups. Small economy cars and family sedans/wagons and vans. Sports sedans and then, sports cars, at the bottom.
Past GTs gave us a normal van, a handful of wagons, normal & sports sedans, a few Pick ups and some concept SUVs. To cover all those in the GT7 UCD, would maybe take about 15 vehicles. Kei cars would possibly require some thought. I think we only had a low count in GT3 & GT5P. GTS only had the three.
PD may add pick ups and SUVs and wagons at a later date, if none are available on debut.

I’d love to make a Saitama Toyopet GreenBuddy replica.

 

[George Jakob]

M,y feelings are mixed , assuming a big part of that list is true , cars like the Caterham 7 RS 500 truly excite me . But on the other hand am i supposed to be impressed by the R8 V10 Plus and base Chiron? . Congratulations PD you  might add them one game and at least 5 years too late.

 

[TFSI400]

M,y feelings are mixed , assuming a big part of that list is true , cars like the Caterham 7 RS 500 truly excite me . But on the other hand am i supposed to be impressed by the R8 V10 Plus and base Chiron? . Congratulations PD you  might add them one game and at least 5 years too late.

Don’t you agree this is such a subjective topic, though?

The cars that interest you aren’t going to interest everyone. Some people might be really happy that the R8 V10 and Chiron might be coming to the game.

I’m seeing this a lot recently: People venting their disappointment that PD aren’t doing things exactly how they want them doing. It’s almost impossible to keep everyone happy. There will always be aspects of game content that different people love, hate, and vice-versa.

I’m really excited at the thought of the RS500 Cosworth potentially coming to the game. But other people might not be. So… screw me and screw PD, right? 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Nielsen]

M,y feelings are mixed , assuming a big part of that list is true , cars like the Caterham 7 RS 500 truly excite me . But on the other hand am i supposed to be impressed by the R8 V10 Plus and base Chiron? . Congratulations PD you  might add them one game and at least 5 years too late.

1929 Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer comes to mind. 93 years too late to get excited about?

 

[DefNotJake]

The BMW 2002 tii and BMW 2002 Turbo.


My god, these things would be an absolutely blast to both drive stock, and tune the crap out of them. I wonder what engine swaps would be unlockable?

 

[05XR8]

I just need those to add to my Trans-Am races.

 

[Aero2000]

The BMW 2002 tii and BMW 2002 Turbo.


My god, these things would be an absolutely blast to both drive stock, and tune the crap out of them. I wonder what engine swaps would be unlockable?
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Yeah, I also think it would be fun to drive both of these but I had hoped for a previous Tii with the round taillights. Think it's just (sorry guys) the Suzuki Escudo which I do not want in the game 😅.
But we will see which of these cars come to the game, if any of them do, once they have arrived. I guess. 🙂

 

[George Jakob]

Don’t you agree this is such a subjective topic, though?

Of course this my opinion only.

The cars that interest you aren’t going to interest everyone.

Thats true.

Some people might be really happy that the R8 V10 and Chiron might be coming to the game.

Don't get me wrong ill be happy too , im happy for every car that might be added. I was one of faw people who didn't start posting negative things when they re added the 2008 Fiat 500 because to quote these people "it a duplicate" & "its useless since we have the Abarth " . But some cars are way too long overdue like the two i mentioned , it doesn't make sense to have the two most recent R8 LMSs on day 1 in two different games (some people went as far as to be disappointed because it wasen't the Evo II model even tho it was just announced by the time the Brembo trailer showed the Evo I) , and not have a single V10 street model since 2010.

It’s almost impossible to keep everyone happy.

Indeed.

I’m really excited at the thought of the RS500 Cosworth potentially coming to the game.

Same here.

But other people might not be. So… screw me and screw PD, right?

Absolutely not.

1929 Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer comes to mind. 93 years too late to get excited about?

You know thats not what i mean.