Daytona 24 Minute Race: Daytona Road Course

Haven't had the time to run this yet so is this race dry start to finish?

There's a two lap period somewhere past the middle of the race where rain begins and moisture rises to about 7%. It dries quickly after that. With the SRF fixed on, it doesn't affect the handling greatly. Some of the AI opponents pit during that time, but I have not checked to see whether they change to IM or not.

I really wish PD would either lock SRF off or make it optional for seasonals.
 
I also think they should reward those who got gold with a random tuned car or something.

$840k for 24 minutes doesn't really make it worth the effort if you just want to grind some credits.
 
Yea try that but I don't think the Audi R18 will work, if so, give that a shot after you try the Mazda 787B
Turns out I don't have the 787 after all. I must have been thinking of GT5. I only have a million credits on me so I don't have enough to buy it either, so I tried the Audi. It was even worse. I finished last, 3 laps down. I honestly don't think it matters what car I use, though. I think the problem is me and these cars. I just can't smoothly drive cars at this level. The handling is so knife-edge that I can't control them with a controller any more.
 
Turns out I don't have the 787 after all. I must have been thinking of GT5. I only have a million credits on me so I don't have enough to buy it either, so I tried the Audi. It was even worse. I finished last, 3 laps down. I honestly don't think it matters what car I use, though. I think the problem is me and these cars. I just can't smoothly drive cars at this level. The handling is so knife-edge that I can't control them with a controller any more.


What other cars you got instead of the Audi?
 
What other cars you got instead of the Audi?
At the moment, not too many at this level. Deltawing, HSV-010, R8 LM, Challenger LM, SLS AMG GT3, FT-1 VGT (and all the other VGTs), Diablo GT2, GT-R Nismo GT3, a Chevy stock car. I haven't been going after race cars at this level much because I've been saving my money for the $20M cars. I just got the 250GTO, still have the 330, XJ13 and the two GT40s to go.
 
So annoying penalties, the AI, are 🤬 got a penalty for just brushing the wall on the exit of the bus stop, Ai moved over on me under braking into T1 and i got a 10 second penalty.

Also, the handling of my cars is shocking. I brake, into any corner and it spears left or right.🤬🤬🤬

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At the moment, not too many at this level. Deltawing, HSV-010, R8 LM, Challenger LM, SLS AMG GT3, FT-1 VGT (and all the other VGTs), Diablo GT2, GT-R Nismo GT3, a Chevy stock car. I haven't been going after race cars at this level much because I've been saving my money for the $20M cars. I just got the 250GTO, still have the 330, XJ13 and the two GT40s to go.


Oh nevermind then
 
So annoying penalties, the AI, are 🤬 got a penalty for just brushing the wall on the exit of the bus stop, Ai moved over on me under braking into T1 and i got a 10 second penalty.

Ten seconds? I didn't know you could get a ten second penalty. I'd assumed five seconds was the maximum as that is the most I've received.
 
Oh nevermind then
I appreciate that you're trying to help. I did a little grinding at the Toscana seasonal event (300,000 for 5.5 minutes of work isn't bad), so I'm up to 2.5M credits. I'll grab the 787 in the morning and give it one more try. Unless you think there's a more suitable car.

Ten seconds? I didn't know you could get a ten second penalty. I'd assumed five seconds was the maximum as that is the most I've received.
I got a 10 second penalty for ramming, even though I didn't ram anybody. It was the other car that ran into me.
 
I appreciate that you're trying to help. I did a little grinding at the Toscana seasonal event (300,000 for 5.5 minutes of work isn't bad), so I'm up to 2.5M credits. I'll grab the 787 in the morning and give it one more try. Unless you think there's a more suitable car.

Well there's a C60 hybrid that is useful also
 
17 laps w/ a Sauber Mercedes C9. RM's all throughout the race, 3 PITS. Not a hard race (once you realize how you should pit. I found 6 full laps with RM's just perfect). Was winning by about 37-40 seconds on the Pescarolo but at one of the last intersections i kind of spined out because my tyres were bald already. Other than that, it went rather smoothly.
 

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17 laps w/ a Sauber Mercedes C9. RM's all throughout the race, 3 PITS. Not a hard race (once you realize how you should pit. I found 6 full laps with RM's just perfect). Was winning by about 37-40 seconds on the Pescarolo but at one of the last intersections i kind of spined out because my tyres were bald already. Other than that, it went rather smoothly.

Yes I agree it's all about your pit strategy cause I redid this event in a newly bought V12 LMR using Priano's tune on RH's and I won... My pit strategy was end of 5th lap, and end of 11th lap... And it got me through the race so yes pit strategy is crucial in this seasonal event.
 
Easy win with my favorite old group C car, a stock Jag XJR-9 (my "go to" De La Sarthe winner). RH throughout, pitted once @ about 12 minutes in. Ran out of fuel through NASCAR turns 3-4, but it didn't matter, was far enough up on P2 that I rolled across for the win. Had I been about 2 seconds slower I would have not needed that extra lap, crossed the line at 23:57.xxx and had to make another go around.
 
At the moment, not too many at this level. Deltawing, HSV-010, R8 LM, Challenger LM, SLS AMG GT3, FT-1 VGT (and all the other VGTs), Diablo GT2, GT-R Nismo GT3, a Chevy stock car. I haven't been going after race cars at this level much because I've been saving my money for the $20M cars. I just got the 250GTO, still have the 330, XJ13 and the two GT40s to go.

Delta Wing on RM, you won't have to pit. Easy win.
 
Man, I'm really bad at this one. Too slow. I'm using the Audi R10 Stealth Model with stock PP and RH tires. One pit stop and the best I can get is 12th. The right rear wears down much faster than the rest of the tires. Any suggestions to help promote even tire wear? Maybe a camber adjustment is in order? My average lap times are around 1:40 or so. Since I'm so slow I thought maybe I could make up some time with a 1-stop strategy, but I'm finishing about 40-50 seconds behind the leader.

With no braking guides, this track is one of the banes of my existence. Not to mention the late afternoon sunset that renders the driving line practically invisible on the infield.
 
whichever car you choose to run a really good strategy is to run in the 1:34.xxx-1:35.xxx range on RH tires. At that pace you can one stop the race and you will cross the finish line 5-6seconds after the clock expires. if you drive faster than this pace you will have to do one more lap and fuel level and tire wear becomes an issue.
 
Man, I'm really bad at this one. Too slow. I'm using the Audi R10 Stealth Model with stock PP and RH tires. One pit stop and the best I can get is 12th. The right rear wears down much faster than the rest of the tires. Any suggestions to help promote even tire wear? Maybe a camber adjustment is in order? My average lap times are around 1:40 or so. Since I'm so slow I thought maybe I could make up some time with a 1-stop strategy, but I'm finishing about 40-50 seconds behind the leader.

With no braking guides, this track is one of the banes of my existence. Not to mention the late afternoon sunset that renders the driving line practically invisible on the infield.


I found this to be a bit difficult also. For a while I thought my Geezership had finally kicked in. I started with the 787B but found it kind of squirrely even with race soft. Multiple spinouts, indefinitely prolonged...... They won't have to cut the grass at Daytona for some time!!

I began to study the lap time board during the replays and noticed the leading Pescarolo only pitted once and used race mediums. I happened to have a Pesci in my hangar, so I dusted it off, tuned it according to Praiano, fitted it with race mediums, and off I went. I found the tire wear to be better and I was able to pit one lap further in then the leading Pesci.

The one thing that is not good, is that the Praiano Pesci is quite weird on the banking, darting or hunting from the line with the G-27 wheel rock steady in my "death grip". I'm sure someone here could help with a tuning suggestion here to alleviate this weird weave! It may be that the combo of downforce/GeeForce on the banking is compressing the suspension too much?!?! The Pesci seems bit faster than the 787B especially in acceleration to top speed, and steadier in the (non-banked) corners. I suspect that the 691PP limit for this race was written for this car as the Pecarolo C-60 Hybride-Judd comes in stock at that 691PP. Coincidence?? Probably not!

After perusal of the lap time board after a race I noticed that the winning A.I. Pesci did not really have very fast lap times. I was able to hold the single lap record for one race with the 787B for instance, running a clean lap at 1:30.122 even though I lost the race dismally. Anyway, I found that the Pesci would allow me to pick up around 10 seconds per lap on whoever was leading at any one time, which is better than the 787B, even though that one is my fave LMP race car.

Another thing that was costing me seconds of time was that I was entering the pits too fast and then found that after new tires and fuel that I would be held in the pits for interminable seconds in penalty for my infraction. You can tell when you are getting this because the little red brake symbol shows up on the display until you are released,even though you do not have the brake pedal depressed, or park brake on.

I think we kind of adopt a "do or die, giterdone" attitude with the short seasonals where you only have a very few laps to charge through the pack, whereas here we need to be rock solid and consistent keeping tire wear and fuel consumption in the awareness loop as well. I have to talk to myself a lot and ask myself how many seconds will a "bus stop spinout" into the fence cost me no matter how many fast laps I run?? With this race, the SRF ON makes consistency more difficult than normal so ..... just something else to keep in mind. With the C-60, I was able to win 1 lap up on all cars so it has the capability.
Cheers, Pete
 
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whichever car you choose to run a really good strategy is to run in the 1:34.xxx-1:35.xxx range on RH tires. At that pace you can one stop the race and you will cross the finish line 5-6seconds after the clock expires. if you drive faster than this pace you will have to do one more lap and fuel level and tire wear becomes an issue.

Just happened to me with the Peugeot 905 on RH: ran out of gas as I was leading in the last lap. So I decided to change strategy, pitted twice with RS and everybody was left one lap behind (the last one even two laps). Might try to drive slower on RH in order to pit only once if I feel like playing this seasonal again. Not sure though as I don't like this track too much...

PS Thanks to Praiano for the 905's tune :cheers:
 
Here's a strategy for ya. It worked for me and I ended up winning by 16s.

  • Car: Mazda 787B (standard or Stealth; standard is a bit better on tire wear because it's less powerful)
  • Tires: RH
  • Pit cycle: 6 laps (2-stop strategy)
As long as you can run consistent 1:32s-33s you should be good. The leading Pescarolo is very quick at the start of the run, but its times start to fall a bit after about lap 3-4. Just stay smooth, don't get excited, and pit at the same time as the Pesci and you've got it. :) And don't worry about the rain that arrives shortly after halfway - it barely even affects the car at all, and then it's gone.

I love responses like this, and appreciate you making it. The only thing missing (IMO) is the use of the Praiano tune.
 
I suspect that the 691PP limit for this race was written for this car as the Pecarolo C-60 Hybride-Judd comes in stock at that 691PP. Coincidence?? Probably not!

Another thing that was costing me seconds of time was that I was entering the pits too fast and then found that after newWith the C-60, I was able to win 1 lap up on all cars so it has the capability.
Cheers, Pete

All I know is that this Seasonal is costing me a lot of credits with no reward (yet). I just purchased the C60 Hybride, so between it, the R10 and all of the tire purchases I'm at nearly 5 million credits spent and less than 100,000 won. :guilty:

Though I haven't raced the Pescarolo yet, in practice so far it looks like I should finally get close to the podium or better with some race experience. My practice laps are about 10 seconds faster than the R10.

As a side note, the last time I had a Pescarolo was through the UCD in GT5, and what a difference a brand new model makes in GT6. 👍
 
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I used a Mercedes C9 for this, I added a bit of front downforce to alleviate high-speed understeer. I stopped twice, on lap 7 and on lap 12. Before my first stop, I actually ran out of fuel on the final corner, and my accelerator cut out at 250km/h, so I was just rolling forward until I reached the pits. After pitting for RMs on my 2nd stop, I caught up with the leading duo (a PlayStation ORECA Audi R8 and Mazda 787B) on the first banked corner of lap 14 (the final lap), and passed them on the inside when approaching the exit. Strangely enough, I managed to stretch out a 4.5 second lead in the remaining 30 seconds. :lol:
 
Ok, I finally won!!! I mean I don't know how you all do it so easily, to me it was really hard, won by about 2 seconds, lol. I used a lot of cars, so the 840 thousand credits pails in comparison to the millions I spent on cars, but I'd do it again, it was nice to finally win :). Anyway, I tried the Puegeot 908, Audi R8 Race car, Toyota GT-One, and lost with them all. I finally chose the Toyota Minolta, with Priano's tune, and since I'm not a expert I used strong active steering, and 5 traction control, and I noticed that car was a beast in comparison to the others. Had to stop twice, once after 5 and again after 9, could have made it with the race hard tires on one stop, but the gas was about 2 laps short, so I had no choice. Anyway thanks for being supportive, I cried a bit yesterday, I'm better today, lol
 
Is just me or the handling is strange in this event? Generally i'm decent with LMP/Group C cars (i even have a thread about them here) but here any car is very unstable under braking and when turning. I tried with Speed 8, GT-One and R92CP, and i spin out very often, especially under braking, never had this problems with Le Mans cars.

I know that here SRF is forced on, but some time ago i used to use it without all these problems.
 
I won this race with Chaparral 2j.
3 pit stops, started with racing hard tyres. First pit stop at lap 4 second one is at lap 8 and the last one is at 12. Always i used racing hard tyres.

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There's a two lap period somewhere past the middle of the race where rain begins and moisture rises to about 7%. It dries quickly after that. With the SRF fixed on, it doesn't affect the handling greatly. Some of the AI opponents pit during that time, but I have not checked to see whether they change to IM or not.

I really wish PD would either lock SRF off or make it optional for seasonals.

Yes SRF option not forced is the best way...hopefully will get some time to run this race again today or tonight...I'm using the C60 but need a little fine tuning on setup

Thanks for the info on rain buddy :cheers: :gtpflag:
 

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