Did You See Anything Good Today? [Read First Post]
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).Holdenhsvgtsr
Yes, but you've negated to consider a few things. In Britain (and that website is British), the Turbo model was always called the T5, whereas in the United States it was the Turbo from 1994 to 1996 and became the T5 only in 1997. Consequently, to my knowledge, the performance model in Britain was always referred to as the T5-R. You'll note the differences in spacing: the US model was the T-5R and was badged as such, while the British ones were the T5-R, and also badged as such. I know - it's weird - but this is Volvo we're referring to.
As for the black and yellow thing, you'll note a search on AutoTrader for the Volvo 850 T-5R turns up two '95 models (the rest being mis-labelled '96 or '97 R models, most of which say 850R in the description) one of which is yellow and one of which is black. Swedespeed.com, a very popular Volvo forum, should put this matter to bed:
1995:
854/855 T-5R - Engine Variant 4 - Colors: Yellow/Black/Less than 10 in Green, Special wheels (see below), seats, front/rear spoilers
The green ones, it was later revealed, were not shipped to the United States and the "less than ten in green" statement has been proven false.
Toronado
A lot of people say that - I'm not too concerned with the particulars, though, since I'm not exactly in the market to buy!
ultrabeat
You need to get a camera!!
- 9,089
- Scotland
the 850 had NEVER always been T5-R but just T5 
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- Grim10
- Are you kidding?
The best I could do was a cameraphone.
And this was in Bradford fact-fans.
I would have put the pictures up, but judging by what M5Power and chaser_fan see every day it would only have been special enough to merit a picture of it being posted if Santa Claus was doing yoga naked on the bonnet.
And this was in Bradford fact-fans.
I would have put the pictures up, but judging by what M5Power and chaser_fan see every day it would only have been special enough to merit a picture of it being posted if Santa Claus was doing yoga naked on the bonnet.
Holdenhsvgtsrthe 850 had NEVER always been T5-R but just T5
Oh. So you think all those websites are wrong?
And Volvo's own brochure?
ultrabeat
Hell no - in fact, the Vanquish is one of the four supercars still on my list of "cars I desperately want to photograph" (along with the Enzo, Veyron, and Diablo). I'm not sure how rare the Vanquish is in the UK, but I personally have never seen one outside a car show. By the way the first of those two photos is of quite good quality for a camera phone - I'm impressed. Plus reputation! 👍
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but ur saying that in the uk they have always been T5-R and i have already proved you wrong on the colours
Holdenhsvgtsr
Re-read what I said:
In Britain, the Turbo model was always called the T5. ... Consequently, to my knowledge, the performance model in Britain was always referred to as the T5-R.
You're right - the 222hp 2.3-liter variant always been the T5 in Britain. However the 240hp 2.3-liter performance model, as I said, was the T5-R and also always has been. But that's Britain only. You'll note that I'm photographing these vehicles in the United States - so when I said it was only sold in yellow and black and only in 1995, I was completely correct as that's all they ever were here in the US. Okay?
Did what I just said have no effect on you? The thing about only yellow and black ones being on AutoTrader and the thing from Swedespeed about it being made in yellow and black? I'm not sure why you're still arguing about this!
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M5POWER
M5POWER
M5Power
well i proved you wrong about their being a green T5-R and you still havent admitted you were wrong by claiming they only made them in yellow and black then said their was a green one then changed back to their not being a green one.and not argueing just debating
If memory serves, they were made in multiple colors in Britain, actually - not just yellow, green, or black. But the only ones we got in the states were yellow and black. Understand?Holdenhsvgtsrwell i proved you wrong about their being a green T5-R and you still havent admitted you were wrong by claiming they only made them in yellow and black then said their was a green one then changed back to their not being a green one.and not argueing just debating
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but you NEVER stated that,which means i was right all along and your thinking of ways out of itM5Power
Holdenhsvgtsrbut you NEVER stated that,which means i was right all along and your thinking of ways out of it
Actually if you had considered it logically from the beginning we could've avoided this entire argument. Think about it: 1. the vehicles were only sold in yellow and black in the US.
2. I live in the US.
3. I photographed one of the vehicles.
Therefore, THE ONLY ONES I WILL BE PHOTOGRAPHING ARE EITHER YELLOW OR BLACK. This is a common sense issue more than anything.
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but you clearly said that it was ONLY EVER in yellow and black and i CLEARLY proved you wrong,hence i clearly proved you wrong and owned you very nicelyM5Power
1. the vehicles were only sold in yellow and black in the US.
2. I live in the US.
3. I photographed one of the vehicles.
Therefore, THE ONLY ONES I WILL BE PHOTOGRAPHING ARE EITHER YELLOW OR BLACK. This is a common sense issue more than anything.
and it is not common sense when you dont state what you post clearly,just admit it you were wrong with your orginal comment common sense could also apply to know when you know youve been beaten instead of trying to find away out of it
- 3,603
But M5Power is always right.
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Anyway, I've had a rather unusual flurry of sightings recently.
-1963 Split-Window Corvette
-Early C3 Corvette convertible, w/ sidepipes and (presumably) a big-block.
-1968 Camaro
-BMW Z8
-Ford GT
-Porsche Cayenne Turbo
Those are the highlights. Unfortunately, I don't carry a camera with me.
Those are only cars I've seen on the road. I've seen at least a half dozen other muscle cars in various shops.
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Anyway, I've had a rather unusual flurry of sightings recently.
-1963 Split-Window Corvette
-Early C3 Corvette convertible, w/ sidepipes and (presumably) a big-block.
-1968 Camaro
-BMW Z8
-Ford GT
-Porsche Cayenne Turbo
Those are the highlights. Unfortunately, I don't carry a camera with me.
Those are only cars I've seen on the road. I've seen at least a half dozen other muscle cars in various shops.
Holdenhsvgtsr
Okay look. Under every one of my sightings, I put the date and place where the vehicle was seen. If you had any sense at all, you'd understand that in the US, the 850 T-5R was ONLY EVER made in two colors, and therefore I can see just yellow ones, and black ones - the ONLY colors it was EVER made in. The 850 T5-R, which is a DIFFERENT VEHICLE and was NEVER SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES was made in other colors, however I won't be seeing those vehicles since I live in the United States.
I'm sorry - I've refrained from name-calling and I haven't even been an asshole to you like you've been to me, but this has gone too far: you're right - it's not common sense to someone like you. End of discussion. Now go away, please - you don't know a thing about cars, and pretending you do isn't getting you anywhere. Go edit your MySpace.
Slicks
I'm always right when it comes down to arguing against people with no car knowledge. What was the color on that GT?
Today was marred by rain, by the way:
Denver, Colo. - August 5, 2006
I also took a picture of a new M5 but I decided that rainbows are a lot more uncommon than new M5s, so it went bye-bye in favor of the rainbow. Also shown is a relatively uncommon 850R which was never sold in Britain though Holdenhsvgtr will probably attempt to claim it was not only sold in Britain but manufactured by Daewoo.
Check out this shot:
Denver, Colo. - August 5, 2006
And a close-up of the Ferrari:
Denver, Colo. - August 5, 2006
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M5Power
Hell, I know where a Vanquish hangs around near my area (private owner not a dealer or show car), next time I go through that area I should take my camera.
*McLaren*
Ah we all know the Ferrari would get away...
(actually I'm not sure - I think the third 911 is a Turbo but I forgot to check). Check out the wheels on the SL55 - those are the new stock design! Disgusting if I may say so...VIPERGTSR01
Do it - I'd love to see a shot. 👍 I'm not sure why, but it's been spectacularly elusive to me. I'm hoping my upcoming move to Atlanta will cure this, but for now I'm stuck (in fact, I'm not even sure there's a Vanquish registered in the area, unlike the other vehicles I want to see - we have one Veyron here for sure, three Enzos, and five to seven Diablos).
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woah keyboard gangster alert!!!M5PowerOkay look. Under every one of my sightings, I put the date and place where the vehicle was seen. If you had any sense at all, you'd understand that in the US, the 850 T-5R was ONLY EVER made in two colors, and therefore I can see just yellow ones, and black ones - the ONLY colors it was EVER made in. The 850 T5-R, which is a DIFFERENT VEHICLE and was NEVER SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES was made in other colors, however I won't be seeing those vehicles since I live in the United States.
I'm sorry - I've refrained from name-calling and I haven't even been an asshole to you like you've been to me, but this has gone too far: you're right - it's not common sense to someone like you. End of discussion. Now go away, please - you don't know a thing about cars, and pretending you do isn't getting you anywhere. Go edit your MySpace.
i can tell you that i do know alot more than you since you clearly know nothing
you claimed in that post that the 850 T5-R was only ever sold in yellow and black in the us,then claimed it was never sold in the us,can you make up your mind? and you stated that the T5-R was only ever made (you havent said anything about sold) yellow and black(nothing about only in the us) which you are clearly wrong as it was made in yellow,black and green now how hard is it for you to admit you were wrong and that i was right, and that you shouldnt believe everything you read on wikipedia which is clearly where you are getting your info from.
but better still you then have to go and personally insult me,because i have proved you wrong and you arent man enough and want me to let it die?
well no chance until you apologise for the insult and admit you were wrong!
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Not sure what model it is, some sort of rolls royce:
- 3,603
It was blue with white stripes. That makes two that I know are in the area - That one, and a white w/ blue stripes one that a local dealership sold before I could get pictures of it.M5Power
Forgot a few sightings from two days ago - XLR, in a very similar color to the one you posted. The back drivers side of the bumper was pushed in and hanging down, presumably because the idjit driving was paying too much attention to her makeup than to what she was backing in to.
I also saw a Viper GTS in red heading up to the ferries yesterday.
Holdenhsvgtr
T-5R: US model. Sold in yellow and black only and only in 1995
T5-R: UK model. Sold in many colors and for a multitude of years.
I've explained this in three different posts now. Perhaps when you turn thirteen you'll understand! I'm done arguing with you though, since you're incompetent. Begone!
ultrabeat
ultrabeat
Yeah we got the cows about a month ago, and the tourists love them - the majority of them are in the area I usually take these pictures and whenever I go down there I can see people taking pictures of them, as pedestrians or from car windows. It's fun. I'll try to get some shots up of my favorite two before I mooooove. Haha oh I crack myself up. And thanks.
opendriver19a
That's a Corniche. Older Rolls-Royces tend to be easy to see, with the exception of the Corniche, which was quite a bit rarer than the sedan models. Made from the '70s to the late '80s if memory serves. I've never seen one in Denver (though I saw one earlier this summer in Aspen so I do have a shot of one). Good sighting. 👍
Slicks
Blue with white stripes seems like a good color combo - the only two I've ever seen were red with white and white with blue. I actually think the vehicle would be quite striking in blue with white - and very Ford.
I like how we associate "XLR + damage" with "female." It's so true... AC-S
Brilliant - thanks for posting those! 👍 Only 1000 RS6 Avants were ever made and supposedly between 650 and 750 went to the UK - so those two are fantastic sightings. +Rep!
Brilliant sighting - in fact, we never got these in the USA; I didn't even know they had been manufactured. Very cool and it even looks stock. I'm loving it.
chaser_fan
Nice - I must say, though, that I hate the wheels on the 8-series. I think they're from a present 7-series? The stock ones look better!
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http://www.t5r.org/M5Power
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OWNED again thank you very much proved wrong again,you know im right you just wont admit it and try to find loopholes
would you like to keep going i think im almost into double digits of proving you wrong now,and you still havent apologise for your personal attack towards me, and im guessing your what 14?
M5POWER
oh and just to annoy you again,they built 8081 RS6's,85% were avants,which works out to 6869 not 1000,or if your talking about the RS6+ then they only made 999 of them
owned again,im getting good at this!!do i get rep for that?
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Holdenhsvgtsr
Stop.
He is trying to point out that you're talking about two different cars.
He is talking about the US-market-only T-5R and you are talking about the T5-R. The hyphen and the 5 are in different places.
T-5R
T5-R
The US market 850 had the "850 Turbo" as the top spec car, succeeded, for one year only, by the faster-yet "850 T-5R", which was in turn succeeded by the 850 R.
The UK market had the "850 T5" as the top spec car, joined by the "850 T5-R".
Because their car was already badged "Turbo", the "5R" was tacked on after the hyphen. Because our car was already badged "T5", the "R" was tacked on after the hypen. It's a very narrow distinction, but it exists.
To all intents and purposes, they are the same car, but we never received a "T-5R"-badged car, and they never received a "T5-R"-badged car. Their T-5R only came in black or yellow. Our T5-R had other colours too.
Holdenhsvgtsr
I'm going to drag this on but just because I want my "did you see anything good" post on the next page so here's the deal and I'll repeat it again:
T-5R: 1995. US. Yellow and black.
T5-R: Other years. UK. Other colors.
Once again:
T-5R: 1995. US. Yellow and black.
T5-R: Other years. UK. Other colors.
The one you're continually showing me is a T5-R. Hell, there's a huge logo of T5-R when you log in on www.t5r.org. It's one of the ones made specially for the UK. Do you understand yet?
oh and just to annoy you again,they built 8081 RS6's,85% were avants,which works out to 6869 not 1000,or if your talking about the RS6+ then they only made 999 of them
So according to your statistics, 6,869 were wagons. And the US got 1000 RS6s, all of which were sedans. So we've accounted for 7,869 cars. And then you said 999 were RS6+s. Which brings the total up to 8,868 cars. Which is already more than the 8,081 you claim were made - and that's not even including the sedan models made for Europe.
My stats are right.
