Disappointed in GT4?

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I totally agree that the AI is relay bad and some how your AI in the B-spec is the only dump driver that crash all the time even on medium pace or increased pace,, and don’t use the max speed that you can get when u use A-spec.

Note: I don’t think the anyone expect me to play for 24H so I have to use B-spec.
 
I really want the memory card to keep my racing times and not pen&paper, it's 2005 for crying out loud!

Not being able to qualify justifies dirty tactics for me, aspecially as the only competitive car starts in first and you have to plough by four "slow" cars first.
 
I love the game! I'm happy it's out!

Yes the A.I. suck and I miss the body kits but to get a good A.I. race just use a lesser car and get max points with it.

Most of these races can be very good around the 150+ point mark! 👍
 
slotcarrod
I love the game! I'm happy it's out!

Yes the A.I. suck and I miss the body kits but to get a good A.I. race just use a lesser car and get max points with it.

Most of these races can be very good around the 150+ point mark! 👍

It might be a closer race, but the A.I. are stil thicker than a very thick thing...

And if I want to race with my car maxed out I expect their to be some way so that the A.I. can keep up.

I shouldnt have to handicap myself to get a close race unless I am so good and have truly mastered the game and the car im driving.
 
I dont think it was a major dissapiontment, I mean they could have made a few more features that would have been nice. Like paintshop or something, but I still like GT4 alot despite the abscence of this.

I dont think the old cars are a waste, some people like to collect the cars in the game (its also amusing to drive in those), but the nike thing I still dont get? :dunce:
 
speedthrill
It's not like you put on bodykits, it was like the ultimate change yr road racer into a real race car. That was just awesome and opened different perspectives on some cars.


I remember in GT2 that I was faster than a stock Viper with a civic that had a body kit.
 
So if I'm a fan of GT3 and I do like GT4 would you say it's worth the money to buy GT2 just for the hell of it? I think I paid like $6 for my GT3.
 
Nigal
Is anyone disappointed in GT4? Even a little? I had a real hard time getting into it. I played the crap out of GT3 and loved it. I liked it’s linier style. I liked the handling. You could jump in your favorite car and run nearly half of the races with it. But above all I liked the prize cars. Who can ever forget the day they won their Toyota GTOne? The best thing was that prize cars you won earlier on were of use in later races. You could also use a car for running many races. GT4 seems to have a lot of disposable cars that are good for one maybe two races then that’s it.

The prize cars in GT4 frankly suck. For example; you run an exhausting series in the 1000K! Series in the European hall to win, what? A 60’ Alfa-frickin-Romero? Give me a brake! And the 1800’s cars? The Nike? I find these and the older cars serve to only clutter the game.

I have come to like GT4 in spite of all this though. I think I'll love GT3 more no matter what though. I just hope GT5 is scaled back a bit and improvements are put in other places. How about a GT motorcycle hall?
I hope your profile isn't updated because if you are less than 12% complete there is a lot to do before I think you have seen enough to really get into the game.

As for some of the prize cars being useless it seems to me that people complain about one of two things (sometimes both, whiners) that the prize cars are too valuable or they are too useless. I think the antique cars have a place in this game considering that after GT2 came out KY said that he wanted Gran Turismo to be an encyclopedia of cars. And if you think they are useless or that no one would go out and whip them around Midfield then you should read this thread. For some of us it creates a whole new challenge. It is KY's vision and not yours. Your only choice is to buy or not buy.

Perhaps you aren't being creative enough. I constantly hear people complain about cars like the minivans, SUVs, trucks, and wagons. Wagons have been in GT since GT1 and the others were only a matter of time. My friend and I get together and have minvan races, wagon races, trucks races, etc. If it is odd and funny then we do it. If you really want a challenge try racing your friends in a less than 100hp race. Those cars all seem pointless too, but when you are fighting for every ounce of speed you can get it suddenly becomes stressful.

I love how you can list a few prize cars and complain, but what about the Toyota 88C-V or the Formula Gran Turismo or the Audi R8 or the Sauber Mercedes C9 or the tons of other fast and/or rare cars? If you aren't in the endurance races yet and haven't unlocked the extreme hall yet then it is my opinion that you haven't done enough to see what the game truly offers.

As for my complaints, the laundry list of bugs are annoying but don't ruin the game and the only prize car complaints I have is why I have to win the Nike 2022 three times and why is the Model T the hardest car to get? I want it. "It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine."

And I will agree the AI is horrible, but those complaining about B-Spec may find he gets better when you train him, which means racing on multiple tracks and not just blowing everyone away with power. My B-Spec driver has about 7000 points and can handle most tracks at 4 and some at 5. He only has passing troubles on narrow tracks like Paris or Hong Kong.

I was quickly bored with GT3 but GT4 has addicted me in a way no other game has. You just need to get over that slow moving early on hump. Reach your 25% and open up the Extreme Events and then you will be into the meat of the game.

As for motorcycles in GT: They aren't cars in my opinon, but if they put them in I will race them too and just have another angle to the game. It might be fun to slam into teh wall at 200mph just to bounce in the air and land on my wheels.
 
I thought the horseless carriages were great prizes until I realized that the serieses they are awarded for are actually pretty interesting, but winning them again and again will get me nothing more than another Cr-- horeseless carriage.
 
I've bought my first console 2 weeks ago, and it's the first time i've been playing GT4. I didn't know what to expect, and had to compare it with GTR which i've been playing alot on PC.

I really like GT4, but not because it's supposed to be realistic, but because it's more of a game than GTR. Buying new cars, selling, winning new cars ect. is really fun and that's where it's longitivity lies, and where games like GTR doesn't give a damn how much fun you have only that it's realistic.

However there are some things I find really strange about GT4 the self-proclaimed "The Real Driving Simulator" - where is qualifying for races? (You always start from the back?) Why is the AI driving the same whether your on the trackor not - and it's probably just me, but when you get to cars like Audi R8 and such it goes purely NFS or something - the speeds and acceleration are off the charts.

Other than that I like it. (Of course i'd like to see things like tire/tyre wear improve as well as the traction on a driven track).
 
In the beggining, the game was great then it got boring...I haven't touched the game for almost 2 weeks now. That's all I have to say.
 
FoolKiller
I hope your profile isn't updated because if you are less than 12% complete there is a lot to do before I think you have seen enough to really get into the game.

As for some of the prize cars being useless it seems to me that people complain about one of two things (sometimes both, whiners) that the prize cars are too valuable or they are too useless. I think the antique cars have a place in this game considering that after GT2 came out KY said that he wanted Gran Turismo to be an encyclopedia of cars. And if you think they are useless or that no one would go out and whip them around Midfield then you should read this thread. For some of us it creates a whole new challenge. It is KY's vision and not yours. Your only choice is to buy or not buy.

Perhaps you aren't being creative enough. I constantly hear people complain about cars like the minivans, SUVs, trucks, and wagons. Wagons have been in GT since GT1 and the others were only a matter of time. My friend and I get together and have minvan races, wagon races, trucks races, etc. If it is odd and funny then we do it. If you really want a challenge try racing your friends in a less than 100hp race. Those cars all seem pointless too, but when you are fighting for every ounce of speed you can get it suddenly becomes stressful.

I love how you can list a few prize cars and complain, but what about the Toyota 88C-V or the Formula Gran Turismo or the Audi R8 or the Sauber Mercedes C9 or the tons of other fast and/or rare cars? If you aren't in the endurance races yet and haven't unlocked the extreme hall yet then it is my opinion that you haven't done enough to see what the game truly offers.

As for my complaints, the laundry list of bugs are annoying but don't ruin the game and the only prize car complaints I have is why I have to win the Nike 2022 three times and why is the Model T the hardest car to get? I want it. "It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine."

And I will agree the AI is horrible, but those complaining about B-Spec may find he gets better when you train him, which means racing on multiple tracks and not just blowing everyone away with power. My B-Spec driver has about 7000 points and can handle most tracks at 4 and some at 5. He only has passing troubles on narrow tracks like Paris or Hong Kong.

I was quickly bored with GT3 but GT4 has addicted me in a way no other game has. You just need to get over that slow moving early on hump. Reach your 25% and open up the Extreme Events and then you will be into the meat of the game.

As for motorcycles in GT: They aren't cars in my opinon, but if they put them in I will race them too and just have another angle to the game. It might be fun to slam into teh wall at 200mph just to bounce in the air and land on my wheels.


Settle down. We're talking about a game. Not your mom.
 
Yeah. I found it extremely disappointing. It could have been so much better, especially considering how much time they gave themselves. This game irritates me enough to hesitate before buying GT5.

But it's still the best :)
 
I found this game good in the first half of the game but beyond the completion of the beginer and pro hall, and all the Nation (Europe, America & Japanese) cups, then yeh it gets a little dull.

As for the cars in this game then, i love um, give me more old cars, i love my classics as much as my new modern cars.

I love collecting all the cars so as far as cluttering the game, nah way, just more cars to get ur hands on "Gotta Catch Um All"

And a bike section in GT4 is like a Satan Worship Corner in a church, its Wrong!!!. Maybe a different game, but deffinatly not the GT series.
 
Yep I'm dissapointed and my game sitting at 30% complete shows this. Even the boring GT3 reached about 70+%.

GT4s car selection, whilst having some good choices, I think is really boring. But this is probably due to the over balance of Skylines, Lancers, etc... Hell I'd have prefered a Civic saloon to another Skyline (Although ideally a non-Japanese car).

The handling has improved and the graphics tweaked but thats pretty much it. The engine sounds whilst improved still suck, the game is still far too easy money wise and all the prize cars annoy me. I'd prefer them to just get unlocked in dealerships. Hell they even reused nearly all the race graphics from GT3, whilst this is a minor issue it shows laziness. But ultimately my main criticism is the series has practically not evolved at all gameplay wise since GT1. And this is after me being prepared for dissapointment of the absence of online, something which I hoped could redeem GT. But no usual BS. For the development time and dissapointment of GT3, GT4 should have been so much more :guilty:

I'm certainly not going to be as desperate towards the actual gameplay behind GT5, even with the no doubt amazing graphics. As like GT3, you soon get used to them. Personally I hope a game 'dethrones' GT5 to get PD off their high horses. Then perhaps GT6 might be a real improvement.
 
The cars get redundant. Too many Skylines. Seriously, do we need an '89 Skyline, as well as the '91? How are they different?!

And there's not much customization or online play.
 
Gabkicks
the ford cosworth wasnt in the game, so i doubt it. :/

I don't think the Ford-Cosworth partership exists anymore, infact I'm not sure if Cosworth still exists at all now.

Ford would be more interested in the Focus RS and other current models I'd imagine. Not that GT4 has many anyway...
 
T5-R
I don't think the Ford-Cosworth partership exists anymore, infact I'm not sure if Cosworth still exists at all now.

Ford would be more interested in the Focus RS and other current models I'd imagine. Not that GT4 has many anyway...

The RS is actually a dead model. It's nice that it's in there. It would have been nicer if there were more Escorts, Cosworth Road-rally cars and the like.

Ford gave a lot of assistance to PD in development, to make sure that the GT40, the Mustang and other current models were all featured. No pay-off, AFAIK, just support.

I'm surprised you guys all think GT4 is more boring than GT3... I actually found 3 more boring. Thank God there's B-Spec to do all the unchallenging stuff.

But there's really no excuse for the AI. :ouch:
 
something that PD really needs to add is porsche, ferrari and lamborghini. also the tons of japanese cars should be scaled down. More american cars like in gt2. They should put customization, and if not at least the race mod back in. I was dissaponted with this games lack of decent ai. trying to overtake in a corner only to get pushed into the dirt by crappy ai gets old after a while. 1 think that i thought would be cool would be an option system to buying new cars. like if i was buying a dodge ram it starts with the regular ram. then when you purchase it you can select the engine, color, and other assorted options. also they should include some american tuning comanies like steeda.
 
GT4 is disapointing... no drag racing mode... you cant buy a brand new Supra RZ... you cant even race the cars you made against your buddies... and the most disapointing thing........... THEY HAVE A ****ING SUNFIRE BUT NO CAVALIER Z24!!! like really? what's up with that?
 
Exactly, plus drag racing would get very boring, very fast. Also, who really cares about crappy cars like Cavaliers? There's absolutely nothing interesting or exciting about them and they look dopey.
 
The Supra stopped production in 1999, there have been no new supras ever since.

I think what nigal was getting at that he was only MILDLY disappointed with GT4, sure the AI is horrid and prize cars get pretty odd. But at the end of it we all still play it and come back to this forum to whine and complain right?

In regards to GT4 being boring, i don't think that's the case:

Mission Halls: good frustrating fun
Phototravel and Photodrive: provides hours of fun if you have a USB thumb drive
Nurburgring: more hours of fun frustrating driving (james did it in the horseless carriage in two days, he's not complaining)

if there's a will there's a way.
 
streetsucka204
GT4 is disapointing... no drag racing mode... you cant buy a brand new Supra RZ... you cant even race the cars you made against your buddies... and the most disapointing thing........... THEY HAVE A ****ING SUNFIRE BUT NO CAVALIER Z24!!! like really? what's up with that?

And it's a concept Sunfire, to boot. :ouch:

You actually can race your buddies in your custom cars... but you'll have to to find out how... :dopey:

It's easy to drag race... just start a race on the test track... first guy to the 400m checkpoint wins! :crazy:

Well, about the Supra, that's sad, isn't it? Especially since you can buy a brand new Skyline GT-R in the game, as well as a brand new Focus RS, and they aren't selling those anymore, either. :lol:
 
Yes, GT4 has its faults, but tell me which game doesn't. To make AI drivers that can perfectly handle 700+ different cars is near, if not totally, impossible. I'm not a bad driver (80 golds and so on) but I found some races VERY difficult while some were far too easy. Some 3pt races can bee very hard while some 200pt races can be won by several laps. That's the main problem, I think.
 
First of all, I did not read the replies to this thread.

How could anyone interested in racing-games ever be disappointed with a game like this? It is what it's advertised as. It has an incredible amount of cars to choose from. It's pretty realistic, even looks really good. Compare this game to anything on the racing scene and there should be no doubt. If you like racing, you love GT4. Even if there's only two Volvo's and one of them is horribly portrayed. Come on, look at all the positive stuff with this game.
I'm just so over people complaining about tiny, tiny, tiny glitches or discrepancies in this game 'cause it is really one of the best game's ever made. With or without Porsche's and Ferrari's.

That'd be all. :)
 
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